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We should have gotten salmons

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 3:36 am
by David_Robinson
Salmons was traded to Milwaukee for Elson and Kurt Thomas (cap relief). I am really disappointed the Spurs did not make a move to steal salmons. We had the contracts to get him as we could have traded Mason jr. (who reportedly is on the way out) and Finley (too many SG and he is too old). He could have really upgrade both scoring and defense on the wing and maybe could have opened up Ginobl to be traded for some interior help. Yes it would be hard to part with Manu because of all the great things he has done for this team but he is getting up there in age, is injury prone and salmons could have helped replace him. R.C. you are the man but you sure missed out on this one.

If we traded mason and Finley for Salmons (Trade ID #5478593), we could have possible followed up with a Manu for a big-man trade.

Lets say: Biedrins (Nellie doesn't play him!) and George (cap filler) for Manu (Trade ID #5478689)

So our rotation after both trades would look like this:
Parker/Hill
Salmons/bogans
Jefferson/Bonner/Hairston
Duncan/Blair/Bonner
Biedrins/McDyess/Ratliff

How does that look to you?

Re: We should have gotten salmons

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 4:23 am
by SApuro_
I always liked Salmons game and think he would have fit in nicely.

Spurs have to make some kind of move. Either start dumping salary so we can resign Manu or make a push for this yr. Either way start moving pieces Buford. I read almost everything is on the table tough thing is finding someone who wants to take our guys.

I figure Mason would be rather easy to move so we'll see what comes of it by tmw.

Re: We should have gotten salmons

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 8:19 am
by Ballings7
That's a horrible realization that Salmons got traded to the Bucks... what a damn waste on the Bucks

Re: We should have gotten salmons

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 10:09 am
by co_laper
Yeah I'm very disappointed with that. If Chicago wanted expirings, we could've given them Finley and Mason who are both expiring. For us, we still have a 4 man wing rotation of Manu, Jefferson, Salmons, and Bogans. I just hope we're not using our expirings because there's another trade on the horizon. If we end up doing nothing to upgrade our talent, i'd be very disappointed. Really felt like this is a lost season.

Re: We should have gotten salmons

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 1:11 pm
by boogydown
You almost got him to

http://projectspurs.com/2010-articles/f ... rough.html

According to Chris Sheridan of ESPN, prior to being traded to the Milwaukee Bucks, the Chicago Bulls and San Antonio Spurs had a deal to send John Salmons to the Spurs in exchange for Roger Mason and Matt Bonner.

The Bulls had been in discussions with the Spurs on a deal that would have sent Salmons to San Antonio for Roger Mason and Matt Bonner, but those talks died.

Salmons, once drafted by the Spurs, would have provided some perimeter defense and offense but in the end, the Spurs were still not addressing a glaring need -- a legit big man.

Stay with Project Spurs as the trade deadline nears at 3 P.M. EST today.

Re: We should have gotten salmons

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 1:38 pm
by Donald Kaufman
Eh, I'm glad that deal didn't go down. Salmons addresses no pressing need for us. We need a serviceable big to pair with TD.

I wasn't aware that we drafted Salmons.

Re: We should have gotten salmons

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 4:55 pm
by co_laper
Well, unless Mason gets traded for something more useful today, I sure hope we get Salmons. While Salmons address no pressing needs, he does upgrade our talent level. Right now, that's better than nothing. But damn it I really hope I wake up today reading that the Spurs trade Mason and got better.

Re: We should have gotten salmons

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 11:04 pm
by Nolan
He's a nice player but we really didn't need him. For once offense isn't a problem for us we need defense and a presence in the paint. Salmons is an okay defender but no better than what we have right now for perimeter defenders. I happy with what we got at SG/SF, we need a center.

Re: We should have gotten salmons

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 12:00 am
by Donald Kaufman
co_laper wrote:Well, unless Mason gets traded for something more useful today, I sure hope we get Salmons. While Salmons address no pressing needs, he does upgrade our talent level. Right now, that's better than nothing. But damn it I really hope I wake up today reading that the Spurs trade Mason and got better.


What about in the offseason, when we acquired RJ...would you say that upgraded our talent level? How did that work out for us?

Re: We should have gotten salmons

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:00 am
by Blame Rasho
Lets look at it like this... Salmons... isn't a difference maker. Good player but not a real fix with what is going on with our team.

Re: We should have gotten salmons

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 3:37 am
by co_laper
Donald Kaufman wrote:
co_laper wrote:Well, unless Mason gets traded for something more useful today, I sure hope we get Salmons. While Salmons address no pressing needs, he does upgrade our talent level. Right now, that's better than nothing. But damn it I really hope I wake up today reading that the Spurs trade Mason and got better.


What about in the offseason, when we acquired RJ...would you say that upgraded our talent level? How did that work out for us?



Well, then I guess using that logic, we should DOWNGRADE our talent and we'd win the championship right? Maybe bring up the whole Toros team and waive everyone other than TD, Manu, and Parker?

Upgrading our talent level could never been a bad thing. If I had to choose whether to keep disgruntled Roger Mason or get a younger and better player in John Salmons, I'm taking Salmons. I was hoping we didn't trade Mason to Chicago because he was gonna be traded for a bigger need (frontcourt) but that didn't happen.

Re: We should have gotten salmons

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 4:09 am
by Donald Kaufman
Salmons solves nothing. We need size. Salmons doesn't provide that. It's not a difficult concept.

Re: We should have gotten salmons

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 6:07 am
by co_laper
Yeah, but it's not a concept that make any sense.

Fact is right now, we didn't trade Mason for size. So the choices was to keep Mason or trade for a much better version of Mason in Salmons.

It's not a difficult concept...

Re: We should have gotten salmons

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 9:42 am
by Ballings7
I've seen Salmons play on a night to night basis since he was with the Kings (to a lesser degree this season), he's a damn good defensive player. Like, even All-NBA-caliber sometimes.