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Post#1 » by theagent » Sun Jun 27, 2021 8:51 pm

Perfect documentary on the Sonics being stolen. It's worth the 2hours

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Post#2 » by DWhiteMamba » Tue Sep 7, 2021 7:43 am

Not a fan of the documentary. It's horribly biased and completely ignored the issues that actually led to the team leaving, namely that they were losing money and the city passed a law to stop any public money being spent on the arena. In light of those 2 realities it's unsurprising the team left. If you don't owe the team anything, why do they owe you? If it's just another business, they can do what every business can; decide to leave. The city has only itself to blame IMO.
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Post#3 » by DoItALL9 » Tue Sep 7, 2021 3:07 pm

DWhiteMamba wrote:Not a fan of the documentary. It's horribly biased and completely ignored the issues that actually led to the team leaving, namely that they were losing money and the city passed a law to stop any public money being spent on the arena. In light of those 2 realities it's unsurprising the team left. If you don't owe the team anything, why do they owe you? If it's just another business, they can do what every business can; decide to leave. The city has only itself to blame IMO.
What were your thoughts on Clay Bennett and his backers planning to move the team to OKC all along despite saying otherwise contractually?

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Post#4 » by DWhiteMamba » Tue Sep 7, 2021 9:12 pm

DoItALL9 wrote:
DWhiteMamba wrote:Not a fan of the documentary. It's horribly biased and completely ignored the issues that actually led to the team leaving, namely that they were losing money and the city passed a law to stop any public money being spent on the arena. In light of those 2 realities it's unsurprising the team left. If you don't owe the team anything, why do they owe you? If it's just another business, they can do what every business can; decide to leave. The city has only itself to blame IMO.
What were your thoughts on Clay Bennett and his backers planning to move the team to OKC all along despite saying otherwise contractually?

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That's just ordinary PR. The NBA wanted them to come in and say they would do their best, but everyone knew the team was probably getting moved once they bought it. It was just PR, no different to when the city claims in the press they are doing everything to keep the Sonics in town when people know they are not. Who cares? Does a private business have an obligation to say dumb things in the press that will only hurt the NBA like "yeh, we know the city negotiations are doomed, but come to our games anyway before we move out of the city". That would have been irresponsible to their investors and partners.

The city passed a law refusing to spend any public money on stadiums, and the people of the city voted for the initiative. It passed overwhelmingly. By doing that they made it clear they did not want the Sonics in town, because the old stadium was not viable. You know it's not viable because after the local owner decided he had to sell because of all the money he was losing he couldn't find a local buyer. The 2 best bids were from San Jose and OKC. They bother wanted to move the team to their respective city.

They fulfilled the contract. They made an attempt to stay, and the city was bought out of the contract which they agreed to. The previous owner made a PR move of suing Clay, but objective people could see all along that the note he had attached to the contract had no real binding legal power, which is why it wasn't in the contract, and the lawsuit was dropped (as expected) once it had achieved it's role in saving face. It was never going to be successful.

You didn't want to pay for the stadium, other cities did; so like any business they wanted to move to where their business would do best. They did. OKC sold out countless games and they made alot of money there. Smart business move. If Seattle could fix the arena they too could make alot of money, they're a bigger market despite their refusal to support the team enough under Shultz, but they stuffed up so now who knows when they get a team again.

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