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Re: Maloofs are selling to Hansen's group 

Post#441 » by OzSonic » Mon Apr 29, 2013 9:52 pm

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Supersonics41 wrote:I am still convinced that we will get an expansion team out of this! If for some reason we don't, I hope to god that Chris Hansen & Ballmer and crew sue the F out of the league!


You don't want to sue.

It sucks for Seattle from all angles, but you the goal is to get a team and you want to play to the good side with the NBA. Hansen has done that and I believe will continue doing so. It sucks to have to play nice to the people who screwed you over, but remember the ultimate goal is to get a team.


Seattle were convinced not to sue last time. Look how that worked out.

I hope they sue the F out of the NBA after this.
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Re: Maloofs are selling to Hansen's group 

Post#442 » by Supersonics41 » Mon Apr 29, 2013 9:53 pm

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Supersonics41 wrote:I am still convinced that we will get an expansion team out of this! If for some reason we don't, I hope to god that Chris Hansen & Ballmer and crew sue the F out of the league!


You don't want to sue.

It sucks for Seattle from all angles, but you the goal is to get a team and you want to play to the good side with the NBA. Hansen has done that and I believe will continue doing so. It sucks to have to play nice to the people who screwed you over, but remember the ultimate goal is to get a team.

What I said was, I hope we sue, if we aren't granted one. If we don't get a promise within the next 3-4, I along with a lot of fans will say, well then F U NBA & sue the crap out of them if need be!
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Re: Maloofs are selling to Hansen's group 

Post#443 » by boogie-reke » Mon Apr 29, 2013 9:53 pm

All the people say "Expansion is not on the table".

Pay close attention to David Stern and any owner saying so, and you will see you'll have to add 2 very important words at the end of that sentence :

"Expansion is not on the table RIGHT NOW".

No one has ever shut down an expansion possibility for good, period.

You WILL get an expansion(Unless Hansen suddenly says "f it", and he's so invested in it he simply can't). It will not be next year - it may not be the next 2 years - but you will get a team in SEA.

Promising you an expansion that will be formed in say, 2015-2016, is an extremely likely thing to happen - in my opinion - and it doesn't make Stern's talk about current expansion be false too.
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Re: Maloofs are selling to Hansen's group 

Post#444 » by OzSonic » Mon Apr 29, 2013 9:55 pm

boogie-reke wrote:All the people say "Expansion is not on the table".

Pay close attention to David Stern and any owner saying so, and you will see you'll have to add 2 very important words at the end of that sentence :

"Expansion is not on the table RIGHT NOW".

No one has ever shut down an expansion possibility for good, period.

You WILL get an expansion. It will not be next year - it may not be the next 2 years - but you will get a team in SEA.


And I call Bull ****.
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Post#445 » by Det the Threat » Mon Apr 29, 2013 9:55 pm

Nuck the FBA

I'm done with it.
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Post#446 » by boogie-reke » Mon Apr 29, 2013 9:57 pm

Ok. To each his own.

You guys called bull on Sac ever having a chance too, so let's hope I'm right in this scenario aswell.

To me it seems very likely to happen. The NBA is not gonna just brush aside Hansen and Ballmer and all their money for good, and that's the solution to make it happen.
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Re: Maloofs are selling to Hansen's group 

Post#447 » by Supersonics41 » Mon Apr 29, 2013 9:57 pm

boogie-reke wrote:All the people say "Expansion is not on the table".

Pay close attention to David Stern and any owner saying so, and you will see you'll have to add 2 very important words at the end of that sentence :

"Expansion is not on the table RIGHT NOW".

No one has ever shut down an expansion possibility for good, period.

You WILL get an expansion. It will not be next year - it may not be the next 2 years - but you will get a team in SEA.

Promising you an expansion that will be formed in say, 2015-2016, is an extremely likely thing to happen - in my opinion - and it doesn't make Stern's talk about current expansion be false too.

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I know your not here to troll, but could all Sacramento kings fans please not post here! Go celebrate on the Kings board, but there really is no reason for you to post on here anymore. Please stay away!!
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Re: Maloofs are selling to Hansen's group 

Post#448 » by boogie-reke » Mon Apr 29, 2013 9:58 pm

Fair enough, I'll be gone.

Keep your head up Seattle. This isn't over for you.
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Post#449 » by OzSonic » Mon Apr 29, 2013 10:03 pm

boogie-reke wrote:To me it seems very likely to happen. The NBA is not gonna just brush aside Hansen and Ballmer and all their money for good, and that's the solution to make it happen.


They just brushed them aside
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Post#450 » by Supersonics41 » Mon Apr 29, 2013 10:08 pm

OzSonic wrote:
boogie-reke wrote:To me it seems very likely to happen. The NBA is not gonna just brush aside Hansen and Ballmer and all their money for good, and that's the solution to make it happen.


They just brushed them aside

As much as this hurts at the moment, lets hold out some hope that we hear some good news at any given moment. :wink:
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Post#451 » by BlazerFanDan » Mon Apr 29, 2013 10:15 pm

Sorry guys, i know you probably want nothing to do with the nba, but you're welcome on the Blazers board.
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Re: Maloofs are selling to Hansen's group 

Post#452 » by Sweezo » Mon Apr 29, 2013 10:16 pm

boogie-reke wrote:Keep your heads up, cause I honestly think the future will bring good news for Seattle Basketball, it is inevitable..


I'm not going to take a shot at the Kings or Sacramento because I have no reason to, so don't take the following as such. But in terms of best situations around the league for us to swoop in and do something, Sacramento was it. Ownership willing to sell, failed prior efforts to build a new arena, a struggling local economy, etc. And the NBA gave Sacramento as much time and help as possible to get a plan in place that allowed them keep them where they are.

I see zero reason for Chris Hansen to spend any more of his time and money fighting this fight, because there is absolutely nothing more the Seattle group could have done to get a team here. There's no reason for him to attempt to buy another franchise as the same outcome would seem likely. Unless expansion is a thing...
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Post#453 » by sonic_brazil » Mon Apr 29, 2013 10:19 pm

Will Hansen sue the NBA now? What can he get from a lawsuit?
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Post#454 » by Sweezo » Mon Apr 29, 2013 10:21 pm

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I hope they sue the F out of the NBA after this.


For Hansen's sanity, I hope he doesn't. Lawsuits are expensive, time-consuming affairs. As much as I appreciate his time and effort I can't ask him to spend more time away from his family dealing with the NBA's nonsense if it won't get us any closer to having a team.
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Re: Maloofs are selling to Hansen's group 

Post#455 » by Sweezo » Mon Apr 29, 2013 10:22 pm

sonic_brazil wrote:Will Hansen sue the NBA now? What can he get from a lawsuit?


Some grey hair and a little less money in his pocket.
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Post#456 » by OzSonic » Mon Apr 29, 2013 11:04 pm

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OzSonic wrote:
I hope they sue the F out of the NBA after this.


For Hansen's sanity, I hope he doesn't. Lawsuits are expensive, time-consuming affairs. As much as I appreciate his time and effort I can't ask him to spend more time away from his family dealing with the NBA's nonsense if it won't get us any closer to having a team.


I just want to see Stern dragged through the mud, stain his legacy for good.
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Re: Maloofs are selling to Hansen's group 

Post#457 » by Chali2Na » Mon Apr 29, 2013 11:05 pm

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boogie-reke wrote:Keep your heads up, cause I honestly think the future will bring good news for Seattle Basketball, it is inevitable..


I'm not going to take a shot at the Kings or Sacramento because I have no reason to, so don't take the following as such. But in terms of best situations around the league for us to swoop in and do something, Sacramento was it. Ownership willing to sell, failed prior efforts to build a new arena, a struggling local economy, etc. And the NBA gave Sacramento as much time and help as possible to get a plan in place that allowed them keep them where they are.

I see zero reason for Chris Hansen to spend any more of his time and money fighting this fight, because there is absolutely nothing more the Seattle group could have done to get a team here. There's no reason for him to attempt to buy another franchise as the same outcome would seem likely. Unless expansion is a thing...


You forgot to mention an owner willing to screw over a fan base. That's the key part. Seattle has dealt with two such owners. One led to losing a team, the other led to a city actually willing to fight for its. Seattle is going to be the threat dangled in front of any city that dares play hardball with the NBA.

It's going to be a loooooong time before the Sonics come back, regardless of whether it's expansion or relocation.
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Re: Maloofs are selling to Hansen's group 

Post#458 » by TheFix » Mon Apr 29, 2013 11:30 pm

I feel very bad for you guys. If Hansen were as dishonest as Clay Bennett, then the franchise would have been sold and moved by now.

The kicker is that Clay Bennett apparently voted against a move to Seattle. Seattle fans have every right to be disgusted by the way NBA has conducted this process.

It's a shame that Sacramento, a relic of the NBA's 90's overexpansion and a crap market, can manage to dash the hopes of a truly great market.
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Re: Maloofs are selling to Hansen's group 

Post#459 » by Sweezo » Mon Apr 29, 2013 11:37 pm

Chali2Na wrote:You forgot to mention an owner willing to screw over a fan base. That's the key part. Seattle has dealt with two such owners. One led to losing a team, the other led to a city actually willing to fight for its. Seattle is going to be the threat dangled in front of any city that dares play hardball with the NBA.


We get to be the city the NBA uses to threaten local groups to pony up money so the team ends up staying? Granting them additional time to fix problems with their original plan while ours has been in the work for two years? Neat.

Chali2Na wrote:It's going to be a loooooong time before the Sonics come back, regardless of whether it's expansion or relocation.


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Re: Maloofs are selling to Hansen's group 

Post#460 » by Chali2Na » Mon Apr 29, 2013 11:54 pm

Sweezo wrote:
Chali2Na wrote:You forgot to mention an owner willing to screw over a fan base. That's the key part. Seattle has dealt with two such owners. One led to losing a team, the other led to a city actually willing to fight for its. Seattle is going to be the threat dangled in front of any city that dares play hardball with the NBA.


We get to be the city the NBA uses to threaten local groups to pony up money so the team ends up staying? Granting them additional time to fix problems with their original plan while ours has been in the work for two years? Neat.

Chali2Na wrote:It's going to be a loooooong time before the Sonics come back, regardless of whether it's expansion or relocation.


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