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Would you trade Watson?

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 6:45 am
by GameTime_3
For Marcus Banks and 52# ...I know you guys are looking to move one of Watson or Ridnour.

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 6:48 am
by HeavyP
No, there's no reason for Seattle to do that. Watson has Positive value, Banks has negative value. The #52 isn't even close to making up the difference.

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 6:48 am
by S0yb3anB0y
Is Banks an expiring? If yes, then SURE.

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 12:19 pm
by sonic-ben
Banks contract is longer ..... NO THANKS

but are you willing to take Watson, Marshal, Wilkens for the #2


its about the same question .... stupid

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 2:37 pm
by Patches Pal
Banks has played in only half the games the last three years. He is injury prone. With a $4M annual salary guaranteed for the next three years he is not tradeable accept as a filler with a better player or a high pick.

Watson is a starting PG with pretty good numbers. While he is not Chris Paul, why should we give him away?

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 9:18 pm
by Sweezo
Why are so many people overreacting? It's not a great deal, but people were complaining about Watson quite a bit all season long...it's not like it would be a giant loss.

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 9:59 pm
by Dick Tate
Sweezo wrote:Why are so many people overreacting?

Because it's Marcus Banks. What team would want him? The biggest role that guy is going to play in the next few years is probably going to be contract filler in larger trades. And do the Sonics really need a dozen or so 2nd round picks?

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 11:22 pm
by kjtruong
I would do it for....

Marcus Banks + 2010 1st

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 11:28 pm
by big L
People go back and forth with Watson. Banks is a disaster, though.

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 12:27 am
by Sweezo
Dick Tate wrote:Because it's Marcus Banks. What team would want him? The biggest role that guy is going to play in the next few years is probably going to be contract filler in larger trades. And do the Sonics really need a dozen or so 2nd round picks?


Agreed. But again, it's not like the poster was asking for the #4...

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 3:05 pm
by Patches Pal
You don't just do a trade to unload a guy you feel hasn't become the franchise player you hope to have. You still have to pay the replacement, give him a roster spot and playing time. Those that want to trade Ridnour and Watson ought to look around the league and see how many franchise PG's there are. Not many! Our guys are not great but they are better than most guards in the league. Don't take a step backward to injured, overpaid guards.

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 5:48 pm
by EJlover
Earl was top 15 in the league for point guards last year, even with the rough start to the season and the fact that he only played about 30 minutes per game - fewer than most other starters.

He is a more than capable starting point guard, and it makes absolutely no sense that people feel otherwise. If you dislike the way he plays that's your issue. But apparently the starters on 14 other teams aren't a whole lot better than him, so if he's nothing more than an overpaid backup like too many claim then there sure are a lot of those guys in the league.

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 8:32 pm
by sonic-ben
15th best point guard = out of playoffs

+5 million a year to be out of playoffs
perfer to pay min or be a bench player

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 12:52 am
by Dick Tate
You'd be paying Banks more than the min but he'd definitely be a bench player... a deep deep bench player.

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 1:21 am
by Hoops23
Banks total salary left in his contract is $13.38m:
S4.17m for '08-'09 season; $4.46m for '09-'10; $4.75m for '10-'11

Watson total salary left in his contract is $12.8m
$6.2m for '08-'09 and $6.6m for '09-'10 season

The difference in salary is just around $.5m but Banks has a more than a year left.

Fans doesn't care about the money because they're not the one paying and sometimes fans doesn't know why a team sell their draft picks for cash. A lot of owners value money and if the Heat will add some cash with Banks, its possible.

How about Banks, cash and a 2nd rnd pick?

The cash compensate the difference in salaries and the Sonics has along term back up pg in 3 years than 2 years only. . . For the Heat its about their cap space and I think they will do it, unless Marion is extended and Riley forgo the cap space for 2010.

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 1:34 am
by kjtruong
Banks < Watson by a long shot

Cash can compensate the difference in the salaries...but I don't believe the 2nd rounder can compensate for the difference in ability.

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 5:36 am
by djthesonicsfan
Hoops23 wrote:Banks total salary left in his contract is $13.38m:
S4.17m for '08-'09 season; $4.46m for '09-'10; $4.75m for '10-'11

Watson total salary left in his contract is $12.8m
$6.2m for '08-'09 and $6.6m for '09-'10 season

The difference in salary is just around $.5m but Banks has a more than a year left.

Fans doesn't care about the money because they're not the one paying and sometimes fans doesn't know why a team sell their draft picks for cash. A lot of owners value money and if the Heat will add some cash with Banks, its possible.

How about Banks, cash and a 2nd rnd pick?

The cash compensate the difference in salaries and the Sonics has along term back up pg in 3 years than 2 years only. . . For the Heat its about their cap space and I think they will do it, unless Marion is extended and Riley forgo the cap space for 2010.

Hoops, you are an absolute classic. And I absolutely love it that you've got a picture of Riley as your avatar. Portrays that smug, I think I'm smarter than you and it's only right that you acquiesce to my requests because I'm some sort of f'ing Jedi knight image you're trying for.

Here's the deal. I'll quit riding you, at least until I come across a different obnoxiously arrogant post of yours, if you'll explain, no let's say admit, to all your fans why that third year of Banks' crap contract sucks so bad. And we're not even talking about how lousy Banks is compared to Watson.