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So there's an interesting rumor on the hoopshype board having us swap picks with the Clippers to take Westbrook. Obviously, we'd have to get someone off their roster and match some salaries, too. Who do you guys want off that roster?

Well they don't have many guys on contract.

I'd send Wilcox and the #4 for Kaman and the #7.

Other than that they don't have much to offer, unless they want to deal Al Thorton. I guess they could send a future first round pick.

i would personally do #4 for #7+ minny first

The Clippers really don't have much i'd expect them to trade and they also don't have many expirings outside of Brevin Knight.

I'd also like a Kaman, #7 for Wilcox, #4 trade as well, but there's no way they'll do that.

So i think that the trade asdf1223 mentioned would be the most likely thing they'd do and i wouldn't mind that one, if we really want Westbrook and he's available at #7.

I wouldnt be so quick to say the Clippers wouldnt do that deal.

According to one Clippers insider, "No one is safe right now." With players such as Elton Brand, Al Thornton and Chris Kaman on the roster, the Clips could jolt things as the draft approaches.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/insider/columns/story?columnist=ford_chad&page=Drafttradetalk-080618&action=upsell&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnba%2fdraft2008%2finsider%2fcolumns%2fstory%3fcolumnist%3dford_chad%26page%3dDrafttradetalk-080618

Sonics could sweeten the pot by tossing in Petro or the #24 too.

I'd actually consider the #4 the #24 and Wilcox for Kaman and the #7 if Westbrook is there.

Sonics land a pure PG and a true Center. Both needs are adressed and the Sonics use the 2nd round picks to pick up a guy like Kyle Weaver.

So the Sonics then have a lock down defender on the wing.

I like it.

nwsports253 wrote:I wouldnt be so quick to say the Clippers wouldnt do that deal.

According to one Clippers insider, "No one is safe right now." With players such as Elton Brand, Al Thornton and Chris Kaman on the roster, the Clips could jolt things as the draft approaches.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/insider/columns/story?columnist=ford_chad&page=Drafttradetalk-080618&action=upsell&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnba%2fdraft2008%2finsider%2fcolumns%2fstory%3fcolumnist%3dford_chad%26page%3dDrafttradetalk-080618

I've read that as well, but the problem is that Kaman, after the season he had, is worth the #4 pick alone.

wiff wrote:Sonics could sweeten the pot by tossing in Petro or the #24 too.

I'd actually consider the #4 the #24 and Wilcox for Kaman and the #7 if Westbrook is there.

Sonics land a pure PG and a true Center. Both needs are adressed and the Sonics use the 2nd round picks to pick up a guy like Kyle Weaver.

So the Sonics then have a lock down defender on the wing.

I like it.

I wouldn't mind that as well, and that looks more realistic to me than #4 for #7 and Kaman.

The Clippers have a history of dealing away young talent that develops elsewhere. Could we pry a Livingston? He looked very promising before the injury(s?). I also don't think that Wilcox would want to go back to playing behind Brand, don't look for that to happen.

Edit: Did some research and Livingston is an RFA. I guess outside of him the only person of interest to me would be Kaman but they'd be crazy to send him away.

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Seattle Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: +4.8 ppg, +1.8 rpg, and -6.5 apg.
Incoming Players
Al Thornton
6-8 SF / PF from Florida State
12.7 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 1.2 apg in 27.3 minutes
Bobby Simmons
6-6 SF from DePaul
7.6 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 1.1 apg in 21.7 minutes
Charlie Villanueva
6-10 PF from Connecticut
11.7 ppg, 6.1 rpg, 1.0 apg in 24.1 minutes
Outgoing Players
Earl Watson
6-1 PG from UCLA
10.7 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 6.8 apg in 29.1 minutes
Donyell Marshall
6-9 SF / PF from Connecticut
3.7 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 0.5 apg in 14.2 minutes
Jeff Green
6-8 SF from Georgetown
10.5 ppg, 4.7 rpg, 1.5 apg in 28.2 minutes
Adrian Griffin
6-5 SG / SF from Seton Hall
2.3 ppg, 1.7 rpg, 1.0 apg in 10.1 minutes

L.A. Clippers Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: -10.4 ppg, -2.8 rpg, and -0.2 apg.
Incoming Players
Adrian Griffin
6-5 SG / SF from Seton Hall
2.3 ppg, 1.7 rpg, 1.0 apg in 10.1 minutes
Outgoing Players
Al Thornton
6-8 SF / PF from Florida State
12.7 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 1.2 apg in 27.3 minutes

Milwaukee Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: +5.6 ppg, +1.0 rpg, and +6.7 apg.
Incoming Players
Earl Watson
6-1 PG from UCLA
10.7 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 6.8 apg in 29.1 minutes
Donyell Marshall
6-9 SF / PF from Connecticut
3.7 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 0.5 apg in 14.2 minutes
Jeff Green
6-8 SF from Georgetown
10.5 ppg, 4.7 rpg, 1.5 apg in 28.2 minutes
Outgoing Players
Bobby Simmons
6-6 SF from DePaul
7.6 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 1.1 apg in 21.7 minutes
Charlie Villanueva
6-10 PF from Connecticut
11.7 ppg, 6.1 rpg, 1.0 apg in 24.1 minutes

Seattle sends 4th and 24th pick to Clippers
LA sends 7th pick to Seattle
Milwaukee sends 8th pick to Seattle

LA Drafts: Mayo (4th pick), 24th pick (BPA)
Seattle Drafts: DJ Augustin (7th pick) or Russle Westbrook (7th pick), Kevin Love or Brook Lopez (8th pick)

Not bad at all, Soy... I hate to give up Green, and Simmons contract stinks, but we certainly get quite a bit of talent. I'm not sure the Clippers do this, but who knows. We'd have, in no particular order:

Rid, Westbrook
Durant, Westbrook, Wilkins
Thorton, Durant, Simmons
Wilcox, Villaneuva, Collison, Love
Petro, Swift, Love, Collison

Quite a bit of athleticism with a future starting line up of Westbrook, Durant, Thorton, Love, and Petro.

too many power forwards! i would much rather have jeff green next to durant rather than al thorton. but having westbrook and kevin love would be crazy.

@Soy:
Nothinng personal, just something i'd like to know.
What's your problem with Jeff Green and why do you want to throw him away all the time?

Al Thornton also is a tweener forward and he's about 4 years older then Green.
Villanueva has been traded already and is being shopped by the Bucks for about a year now. He's another tweener forward that can't defend. And Simmons contract is absolutely not what we, as a rebuilding team, need right now.

Also, that trade does not help us, as we're still having problems at the 1 and 5 spots, while also giving away a solid(but overpaid) point guard in Earl Watson.

i dont know if it is possible to swap our pick with the clippers because it seems likely that the kknicks may take westbrook with their #6 pick. however, this would be great as a i believe he will be a very good pt guard and i am much higher on him than bayless

Det, he has said on a different thread that he does not believe Jeff Green is an effective 4, and that he wants KD to slide over to the 3, but he has problems with Green at the 4 for some reason.

The Clippers own the Wolves first pick next year, but it's top 10 protected until 2012. Getting Kaman & Westbrook in exchange for Mayo, Wilcox & #24 would be too good to be true. Especially considering the Clippers traded us Wilcox for a reason.

I like Jeff Green and all, but you guys are underrating Al Thorton... two very different players.

I seriously doubt the Clippers would let go of Kaman. How about a trade of #4 for #7, #35 and Nick Fasekas. Fasekas has some range on his shot and at 6-11 he gives us a big body to fill the paint. Another high second will be very valuable in this draft and allow #24 to move up.