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Shopping the 4th pick

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 1:33 am
by london sonic
With presti entertaining offers for the 4th pick could a deal with new jersey for the 10th and 21st pick be arranged.
I would prefer to move up to try and get beasley but with the sonics looking to build around durant, it all started with with a good team player jeff green last year.With this focus in building a team not adding stars landing the 10th and 21st might be the best thing.
Two former team mates of both durant and green could be brought in to solve two areas of greatest need pg and center.these being dj augustine of texas at 10 and hibbert of georgetown at 21.
Dj augustine is a pure point bit small but player durant would know and has played with.
hibbert is a senior center nba ready although slow who performed well with green at Georgetwn

In short seattle brings in two players of need ,former teamates,and both good team players.we still have the 24th pick and 3 seconds maybe to package with wilcox,watson or ridnour to move back into the lottery to get gordon or to pick up a high risk high return player such as randolph,alexander,jordan,speights,mcgee or gordon if he drops .gordon added to augustine and hibbert would be a young but interesting line up.

pg-augustine/watson/ridnour
sg-gordon/durant/wilkens
sf-durant/green
pf-collison/green
c-hibbert/collison/petro

Re: Shopping the 4th pick

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 1:47 am
by Patches Pal
No Thanks. We need quality not quantity. It is more likely they move up for Beasley than move down. The team has more picks than they need. They need to consolidate the second rounders and move up.

Re: Shopping the 4th pick

Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 1:20 pm
by RiseoftheSonics
I personally think that with most people reporting that the team is trying to shop the 4th pick overall, I don't believe that I personally think that they are working the trade lines to acquire another lottery pick, probably the 9th, 10th or 13th spot in my mind.

Re: Shopping the 4th pick

Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 2:48 pm
by sonic-ben
In trading down Nets would have to include Sean Williams and take Watson and Wilkens


NY post reporting that the Sonics trying to trade up to get Beasley at #2

Re: Shopping the 4th pick

Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 8:46 pm
by Isiahs Garden
Would the Sonics even think this offer over? Assuming that Minny grabs Love at #3.

Seattle receives Jamal Crawford, Malik Rose, David Lee, Nate Robinson, and the #6 pick.

NY receives Earl Watson, Luke Ridnour, Chris Wilcox, and the #4 pick.

Rose is expiring after this season, Crawford and Robinson are Seattle natives with energy and scoring ability, and Lee brings rebounding and hustle.

NY would draft Mayo, there is no chance that Memphis would take Bayless, let alone any pg with the #5 pick. So the Sonics would still have the choice of Bayless or Westbrook at pick #6.

Re: Shopping the 4th pick

Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 9:35 pm
by Patches Pal
That is not a deal I would consider. Giving up both our PG's for undersized Nate Robinson doesn't sound like a formula for success. Wilcox is a back to the basket PF. They are hard to find. Lee and Crawford don't excite me that much. The trade gives Seattle alot of pieces but none of the pieces they need (PG and C) and with six draft choices we really don't need to take on more players than we send out. Crawford is a nice player but plays the same position as KD. Then there is the problem of acquiring all of this NY culture and bad attitude together in one package.

Re: Shopping the 4th pick

Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 9:42 pm
by HeavyP
First off, I'd say there is less then a one percent chance that Mayo is there at 4. Given that, this is a very reasonable trade offer. We definitley get the edge talent wise, but that's not necessarily the reason you make trades. I think we already have a better version of Lee with Collison.

Re: Shopping the 4th pick

Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 10:06 pm
by Isiahs Garden
Crawford is a very capable scorer but I also think that if he had more scoring talent around him that his assist numbers would vastly improve.

Yes both pg's are involved here, so you are swapping Ridnour and Watson for Bayless and Robinson. Crawford is also capable at running the 1 spot at times.

I thought it was interesting and maybe something to look into.

Re: Shopping the 4th pick

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:30 am
by Bill Bradley
Isiahs Garden wrote:Crawford is a very capable scorer but I also think that if he had more scoring talent around him that his assist numbers would vastly improve.

Yes both pg's are involved here, so you are swapping Ridnour and Watson for Bayless and Robinson. Crawford is also capable at running the 1 spot at times.

I thought it was interesting and maybe something to look into.


That's a horrible deal for the Knicks.

Re: Shopping the 4th pick

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 7:51 pm
by DoctorEvil
Horrible for Seattle. Wilcox is the best player in the deal and the #4 is the best pick.