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2023 Draft Discussion Part 7 (Thurs June 22 @ 8pm)

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2023 Draft Discussion Part 7 (Thurs June 22 @ 8pm) 

Post#1 » by WuTang_CMB » Sat Jun 17, 2023 6:59 pm

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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#2 » by WuTang_CMB » Sat Jun 17, 2023 7:04 pm

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Post#3 » by NotMyKawhi » Sat Jun 17, 2023 7:06 pm

I like the twins and whitmore. Everything after that is a crapshoot
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Post#4 » by BoyzNTheHood » Sat Jun 17, 2023 7:07 pm

NotMyKawhi wrote:I like the twins and whitmore. Everything after that is a crapshoot

Jarace Walker is better than all 3 of them.
deeps6x wrote:I guarantee you that (Jaylen) Brown and (Kris) Dunn are drafted OUT of the top 5.
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Post#5 » by nowayguy » Sat Jun 17, 2023 7:26 pm

Cam Whitmore averaging two turnovers for every assist and managing less than an assist per game only to end up as a potential top 5 pick is hilarious. Hard to ignore that combination of athleticism and power though. Worked out well with Jaylen Brown.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 7 

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Post#7 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Sat Jun 17, 2023 8:08 pm

nowayguy wrote:Cam Whitmore averaging two turnovers for every assist and managing less than an assist per game only to end up as a potential top 5 pick is hilarious. Hard to ignore that combination of athleticism and power though. Worked out well with Jaylen Brown.


Most good NBA SFs at best had 1/1 ratios in college with a ton of them with negative ratios and few with positive ones. MPJ 0.3/1, Wiggins 1.5/2.3.

When it comes to AST/TO for SFs it's a little less concerning to me. Even Franz Wagner who was then considered a guard was 1/1.5 his freshman season. Anunoby 0.5/0.8.

I don't think anyone can go halfway on Whitmore you're either a fan or a hater of how he projects. His game is rim-pressure, shooting and defending and he gets to the rim almost 2x as much as Brandon Miller does despite being 1.5 yrs younger. It's a trait that will always be in demand and at a premium especially in a 6'7 235 lb package who is still 18 years old who isn't a liability as a shooter or defender.

Whoever takes him needs to put an emphasis on his passing immediately.
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Post#8 » by alpngso » Sat Jun 17, 2023 8:17 pm

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Scottie Barnes is a key starter/bench player in this exercise. Nudged out by Giddey who got selected in the All-NBA/All-star range.

Very good exercise which was covered by few draft nerds on Twitter as well.
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Post#9 » by bboyskinnylegs » Sat Jun 17, 2023 8:18 pm

normally I would have been really worried about taking a prospect like Cam, but I think he's the exact type of prospect that our new coaching staff can really help. Anyways, we probably won't be in a position to draft him.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#10 » by HumbleRen » Sat Jun 17, 2023 8:28 pm

alpngso wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:


Scottie Barnes is a key starter/bench player in this exercise. Nudged out by Giddey who got selected in the All-NBA/All-star range.

Very good exercise which was covered by few draft nerds on Twitter as well.


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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#11 » by alpngso » Sat Jun 17, 2023 8:31 pm

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alpngso wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:


Scottie Barnes is a key starter/bench player in this exercise. Nudged out by Giddey who got selected in the All-NBA/All-star range.

Very good exercise which was covered by few draft nerds on Twitter as well.


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Post#12 » by TNRaps4life » Sat Jun 17, 2023 8:32 pm

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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#13 » by HumbleRen » Sat Jun 17, 2023 8:39 pm

alpngso wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:
alpngso wrote:
Scottie Barnes is a key starter/bench player in this exercise. Nudged out by Giddey who got selected in the All-NBA/All-star range.

Very good exercise which was covered by few draft nerds on Twitter as well.


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Fair points were made. Scottie got alot of people to prove wrong.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#14 » by WetLikeWater » Sat Jun 17, 2023 8:39 pm

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no way scottie isnt a future allstar / all NBA that guy is nuts :crazy: :noway:
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Post#15 » by Yallbecrazy » Sat Jun 17, 2023 8:40 pm

nowayguy wrote:Cam Whitmore averaging two turnovers for every assist and managing less than an assist per game only to end up as a potential top 5 pick is hilarious. Hard to ignore that combination of athleticism and power though. Worked out well with Jaylen Brown.

#7 and another 1st for OG? We could end up with Wallace at #7 and Podz at #13
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Post#16 » by WetLikeWater » Sat Jun 17, 2023 8:41 pm

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Post#17 » by Yallbecrazy » Sat Jun 17, 2023 8:42 pm

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nowayguy wrote:Cam Whitmore averaging two turnovers for every assist and managing less than an assist per game only to end up as a potential top 5 pick is hilarious. Hard to ignore that combination of athleticism and power though. Worked out well with Jaylen Brown.


Most good NBA SFs at best had 1/1 ratios in college with a ton of them with negative ratios and few with positive ones. MPJ 0.3/1, Wiggins 1.5/2.3.

When it comes to AST/TO for SFs it's a little less concerning to me. Even Franz Wagner who was then considered a guard was 1/1.5 his freshman season. Anunoby 0.5/0.8.

I don't think anyone can go halfway on Whitmore you're either a fan or a hater of how he projects. His game is rim-pressure, shooting and defending and he gets to the rim almost 2x as much as Brandon Miller does despite being 1.5 yrs younger. It's a trait that will always be in demand and at a premium especially in a 6'7 235 lb package who is still 18 years old who isn't a liability as a shooter or defender.

Whoever takes him needs to put an emphasis on his passing immediately.


I can see Whitmore ending up like Jabari Parker or a big time star.

Guys with very poor assist to turnover ratios sometimes bust when they have every other trait as a strength and sometimes they figure it out and become all stars.

I see Whitmore as a boom bust player and I'm not sure I want to take that risk in the top 5.
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Post#18 » by TNRaps4life » Sat Jun 17, 2023 8:49 pm

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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#19 » by HumbleRen » Sat Jun 17, 2023 8:53 pm

WetLikeWater wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:



no way scottie isnt a future allstar / all NBA that guy is nuts :crazy: :noway:


He has him as an future all nba guy but it was down to him or Giddey, he went with Giddey.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#20 » by Brinbe » Sat Jun 17, 2023 8:53 pm

The smokescreen jpegs gonna get some heavy use starting next week lol

Think teams will have a good idea about the players they'd want at this point and it's all about positioning/dealing to get those players.
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