Scotto: What's next for TOR after dealing OG

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Yeah lets just ignore how much of an impact Siakam and FVV making so little had on the ability to create a roster. I guess it really is just that easy, now we just have to go draft someone in the late 20's that will turn into an all star/all nba player and find an undrafted player that is probably one of the best undrafted players in NBA history.

It really is that easy!

Lets also ignore that pretty much every championship team has someone massively underpaid.

23 Nuggets had Bruce Brown
22 Warriors had Poole
21 Bucks had Lopez (this is more of stretch but he was playing a lot better than that salary)
20 Lakers had Caruso / Kuzma / Rondo / Markeiif / D12
19 Raptors had Siakam (and OG but he was hurt. FVV was already making 9M)

And then before that was the superteam Warriors and Cavs who were just absolutely loaded top to bottom, and before that was the superteam Heat squished in with the Spurs (cheap AF Kawhi) and Mavs (they had like their entire starting lineup underpaid).

Reality is if we ever wanna win again a big part of it will be that we have a bench contributor or starter who comes out of nowhere. That is why winning a ring takes so much luck.

I’ve been making this point for a while. Masai and Bobby have struggled to get players outperforming their contracts. Barnes is currently the only one. During our title we had Siakam, OG, Norm, FVV all producing more than what they were getting paid.

We need to do a better job of holding onto our draft picks and finding gems via trades and free agency. Our best bet is probably trading Siakam to give us more depth and then adding more pieces through the draft in the coming years.

Well look at that, someone who gets the point lol.

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Yeah lets just ignore how much of an impact Siakam and FVV making so little had on the ability to create a roster. I guess it really is just that easy, now we just have to go draft someone in the late 20's that will turn into an all star/all nba player and find an undrafted player that is probably one of the best undrafted players in NBA history.

It really is that easy!

Lets also ignore that pretty much every championship team has someone massively underpaid.

23 Nuggets had Bruce Brown
22 Warriors had Poole
21 Bucks had Lopez (this is more of stretch but he was playing a lot better than that salary)
20 Lakers had Caruso / Kuzma / Rondo / Markeiif / D12
19 Raptors had Siakam (and OG but he was hurt. FVV was already making 9M)

And then before that was the superteam Warriors and Cavs who were just absolutely loaded top to bottom, and before that was the superteam Heat squished in with the Spurs (cheap AF Kawhi) and Mavs (they had like their entire starting lineup underpaid).

Reality is if we ever wanna win again a big part of it will be that we have a bench contributor or starter who comes out of nowhere. That is why winning a ring takes so much luck.

Yes, thank you for making my point. You amaze me sometimes.

I didn’t make your point.

That team has massive money tied up in Gasol, Ibaka, Kyle, and Kawhi.

Then they drafted some dude in the late 1st who blew up unexpectedly. Any future iteration of this team who contends is going to have a player like that - but we don’t need to move our high earning players today to find that. By your argument, we should have traded Demar and Lowry long before we did, and we never should have grabbed Ibaka as he was making to much money.

There’s more luck than skill that goes into building a champion to be quite honest.

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Yeah lets just ignore how much of an impact Siakam and FVV making so little had on the ability to create a roster. I guess it really is just that easy, now we just have to go draft someone in the late 20's that will turn into an all star/all nba player and find an undrafted player that is probably one of the best undrafted players in NBA history.

It really is that easy!

Lets also ignore that pretty much every championship team has someone massively underpaid.

23 Nuggets had Bruce Brown
22 Warriors had Poole
21 Bucks had Lopez (this is more of stretch but he was playing a lot better than that salary)
20 Lakers had Caruso / Kuzma / Rondo / Markeiif / D12
19 Raptors had Siakam (and OG but he was hurt. FVV was already making 9M)

And then before that was the superteam Warriors and Cavs who were just absolutely loaded top to bottom, and before that was the superteam Heat squished in with the Spurs (cheap AF Kawhi) and Mavs (they had like their entire starting lineup underpaid).

Reality is if we ever wanna win again a big part of it will be that we have a bench contributor or starter who comes out of nowhere. That is why winning a ring takes so much luck.

I’ve been making this point for a while. Masai and Bobby have struggled to get players outperforming their contracts. Barnes is currently the only one. During our title we had Siakam, OG, Norm, FVV all producing more than what they were getting paid.

We need to do a better job of holding onto our draft picks and finding gems via trades and free agency. Our best bet is probably trading Siakam to give us more depth and then adding more pieces through the draft in the coming years.

During our title we had Siakam pretty much being the only one producing above what they were getting paid.

Norman was making 9.3M a year (130th highest paid player in the league) - this was peak "Powell is overpaid" time in Raptors history. We paid 9.3M for 6.5ppg in the playoff run. He 100% did NOT outproduce his contract that year.

Hell, FVV was paid 8.6M that year (137th in the NBA) - and while he played great for half of the MIL series and the finals, the dude was one of the worst perfomers in the PHI series, and he still sucked vs ORL. There is a really fair argument that he did not outproduce his contract that year either. He was paid like a starter but really played like a 6th man production wise. He was fairly paid, but certainly did not out-produce his deal either.

Siakam and OG? Obviously a very different story. But OG did not play a PO game so you cant really use him either.

Getting guys like that really are independent of what is currently on your roster. Trading Siakam does not help you find a late 1st who blows up, because if you no longer have Siakam you now don't have the late 1st gem to be a 4th/5th best player on a good team if the y get thrusted into a main role right away.

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Lets also ignore that pretty much every championship team has someone massively underpaid.

23 Nuggets had Bruce Brown
22 Warriors had Poole
21 Bucks had Lopez (this is more of stretch but he was playing a lot better than that salary)
20 Lakers had Caruso / Kuzma / Rondo / Markeiif / D12
19 Raptors had Siakam (and OG but he was hurt. FVV was already making 9M)

And then before that was the superteam Warriors and Cavs who were just absolutely loaded top to bottom, and before that was the superteam Heat squished in with the Spurs (cheap AF Kawhi) and Mavs (they had like their entire starting lineup underpaid).

Reality is if we ever wanna win again a big part of it will be that we have a bench contributor or starter who comes out of nowhere. That is why winning a ring takes so much luck.

Yes, thank you for making my point. You amaze me sometimes.

I didn’t make your point.

That team has massive money tied up in Gasol, Ibaka, Kyle, and Kawhi.

Then they drafted some dude in the late 1st who blew up unexpectedly. Any future iteration of this team who contends is going to have a player like that - but we don’t need to move our high earning players today to find that. By your argument, we should have traded Demar and Lowry long before we did, and we never should have grabbed Ibaka as he was making to much money.

There’s more luck than skill that goes into building a champion to be quite honest.

You're literally just making up arguments and arguing with yourself. I hope you're having fun at least.