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Off-ball effectiveness by player 

Post#1 » by ___Rand___ » Tue Jan 9, 2024 1:26 pm

This is an interesting chart. Seems we are loaded with off-ball players?


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Post#2 » by Purple+Black » Tue Jan 9, 2024 1:32 pm

Coach’s play style also has to do a lot with this but yes, interesting to look at for sure
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Post#3 » by And1+2 » Tue Jan 9, 2024 1:39 pm

According to this, we should have the best offense in the league.
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Post#4 » by Psubs » Tue Jan 9, 2024 2:14 pm

___Rand___ wrote:This is an interesting chart. Seems we are loaded with off-ball players?

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So, like I've been saying should've traded FVV For Coby White. Should've kept Norman Powell.

Now should trade for Colin Sexton.
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Post#5 » by Bruin » Tue Jan 9, 2024 2:21 pm

KAT is insane in the half court damn
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Post#6 » by Boogie! » Tue Jan 9, 2024 2:39 pm

___Rand___ wrote:This is an interesting chart. Seems we are loaded with off-ball players?


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The ability to play off ball is something we've desperately been missing. Acotties 3 point shooting has really improcee his game in that regard as well... from what I understand, we're really good in transition.

Also, siakam being so high on both ends speaks a lot to his versatility as a player. Everyone was calling him selfish and looks for his own so much, turns out he's just as good without the ball which is what makes him such a great piece to have, which is also something people also should've realized about him if they've actually paid attention to his game since he's gotten here. He doesn't rely on being the ball dominant initiator to be effective. He's literally second most efficient in transition AND second in half court. Don't know what people have been watching all season to act like ghis guy isn't a difference maker offensively.
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Post#7 » by StopitLeo » Tue Jan 9, 2024 9:31 pm

Boogie! wrote:The ability to play off ball is something we've desperately been missing. Acotties 3 point shooting has really improcee his game in that regard as well... from what I understand, we're really good in transition.

Also, siakam being so high on both ends speaks a lot to his versatility as a player. Everyone was calling him selfish and looks for his own so much, turns out he's just as good without the ball which is what makes him such a great piece to have, which is also something people also should've realized about him if they've actually paid attention to his game since he's gotten here. He doesn't rely on being the ball dominant initiator to be effective. He's literally second most efficient in transition AND second in half court. Don't know what people have been watching all season to act like ghis guy isn't a difference maker offensively.


I’d never call Pascal selfish. Any ball dominance came from the fact that we had nobody else who could be a legitimate primary scoring threat. Literally nobody other than Fred could dribble adequately to attack the rim but he was too small, a poor finisher, and had no in-between game. Last season Scottie wasn’t even close to being able to do the things he is today. Things are even better now with Quickley (and even RJ to a lesser degree).

I think Siakam, Barnes, and Quickley can be a really dangerous trio. It’s unfortunate that Pascal’s contract status and the timing of the OG trade makes evaluating things more challenging.
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Post#8 » by ___Rand___ » Tue Jan 9, 2024 11:17 pm

And1+2 wrote:According to this, we should have the best offense in the league.


Offensive rating is creeping up. I believe in the 4 games since trade we're 3rd in the league in offense.
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Post#9 » by HiJiNX » Tue Jan 9, 2024 11:18 pm

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___Rand___ wrote:This is an interesting chart. Seems we are loaded with off-ball players?


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The ability to play off ball is something we've desperately been missing. Acotties 3 point shooting has really improcee his game in that regard as well... from what I understand, we're really good in transition.

Also, siakam being so high on both ends speaks a lot to his versatility as a player. Everyone was calling him selfish and looks for his own so much, turns out he's just as good without the ball which is what makes him such a great piece to have, which is also something people also should've realized about him if they've actually paid attention to his game since he's gotten here. He doesn't rely on being the ball dominant initiator to be effective. He's literally second most efficient in transition AND second in half court. Don't know what people have been watching all season to act like ghis guy isn't a difference maker offensively.

Siakam is a way better offensive player than our fans appreciate I think, especially this season, where his game 18 feet and in is elite. The guy just gets better every year somehow. His midrange game is stellar now. If he can translate this production to the playoffs it’ll be huge for us. He’s still the engine until Scottie can adapt his game to the scouting reports he’s seeing these days.

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Post#10 » by ___Rand___ » Tue Jan 9, 2024 11:21 pm

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So, like I've been saying should've traded FVV For Coby White. Should've kept Norman Powell.

Now should trade for Colin Sexton.


I wish we kept Norm too, though in current roster I think we have enough off-ball players.
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Post#11 » by Kingsway_fan » Tue Jan 9, 2024 11:29 pm

Extend Pascal! Wtf is Masai waiting for??..
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Post#12 » by Tha Cynic » Wed Jan 10, 2024 10:54 pm

The Raptors are looking much better in the halfcourt. I thought yesterday they played a game that was too slow and something that the Lakers prefer, but the Raptors were still very good getting good shots and executing. It's crazy how good this offense looks now.
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Post#13 » by vini_vidi_vici » Thu Jan 11, 2024 12:18 am

Heres 3 days later.

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