PG: Scottie Kisses Dick but it’s not enough

[SpezNc]

I'm generally anti-tank but we are 16-30 and have a chance to get a top 5 pick. Let's go for it.

Do we have a realistic chance at? Detroit, Charlotte, Spurs and Washington have the bottom 4 on lock. The "best" we can be is 5 (in a battle with the blazers and Grizzlies). If end up 5th or 6th and suppose someone jumps us in the lottery and pushes us to 7th?

The team is so bad that we may ending getting that low regardless of what we do but i don't think we should go out of our way to tank.

The reason why we shouldn't tank is like you just said, bottom 5 is not realistic especially when guys come back from injury. Even if you have the 6th best odds, there is still a good chance the lottery luck will make you give up the pick anyway. The worse part about tanking is wasting the opportunity of having Scottie get real meaningful reps as a #1 for the first time trying to win games playing alongside IQ/RJ/Dick. A Play-In game with those 4 along side Yak will do wonders for their development going into next year. The front office and coaches can see what they need to work on in the summer and what to add to the current core 4. You want to change the culture then don't build bad habits like the Hornets/Wizards/Pistons have been doing. Play hard, try to win and see where the chips fall at the end of the year. If we keep losing at a high rate cause of injuries then so be it. Lastly if you convey the pick this year at least you have all your 1st round picks going forward instead of owing the Spurs next years 1st with protections and we are doing this all over again in a better draft when there is no guarantee we will be good. We have 2 1st round picks in this years draft and the Pistons 31st pick because of the trades so do we really need to try and go for a 4th? Compared to next year when our only pick in a better draft will be our own that could very easily be in the lottery. Again conveying the pick this year means pick flexibility going forward meaning you can now trade picks for a player instead of being in limbo again.

No one is saying losing on purpose. We are saying to focus on development and give repetitions to young players without having the WIN as the ultimate goal. You try to win but in the caveat of developing.

Winning is not the ultimate single key performance indicator

Our goal should not be to trade our 2025 pick.

Next year, it’s arguably even easier than this season to have a top6 pick as we would be without O.G/Siakam for the full year and maybe others teams take a jump (like houston did this year).

At the end of the day, there is argument for both options. That is why the organization will welcome any outcome and will act as if it was the preferred option all along.

Obviously if the keep convey, it will be nice to not having this cloud next season. On the other end, I don’t care which draft, any time you can draft a player top6 , you have an amazing opportunity .

[Dennis 37]

Great. I have no issue with Scottie and where his development is as far as skill improvement. But, I’m not sold on him being the guy to take us to the next level. Something stunk on our team last year that caused real friction in the locker room where NN basically quit and Justin Champagnie wanted just to be released. Very risky for a guy at the bottom. The blame went everywhere EXCEPT Scottie and if I dared mention he had a bad game, I would get a dozen replies with all kinds of excuses, mostly blaming older teammates for hogging the ball, ‘pecking order’. This year, Dinnis makes a point to mention in the media that they’re not tight as a team. Now I ask was it them? They seem to be doing fine now. Is there more of an issue with Scottie behind closed doors? To me, something doesn’t seem right. And again 14 shots in a game where the second best player is arguably dennis Schroder is pretty bad.

The pecking order was the problem. Darko's system is move the ball. Fred and Nurse were the main problems.

Guy.... every single NBA team has an only slightly variable unwritten/unspoken pecking order.

Sure they do, but it is based on the team actually having a chance to win as well as develop. Our pecking order was not winning and was not developing and resulted in an OG unhappy with his offensive usage and a Justin Champagnie quitting on the team, not to mention a split on the team.

[Johnny Bball]

The pecking order was the problem. Darko's system is move the ball. Fred and Nurse were the main problems.

Guy.... every single NBA team has an only slightly variable unwritten/unspoken pecking order.

Sure they do, but it is based on the team actually having a chance to win as well as develop. Our pecking order was not winning and was not developing and resulted in an OG unhappy with his offensive usage and a Justin Champagnie quitting on the team, not to mention a split on the team.

I think its clear now, that is not what was holding this team back though.

[Chalky_White]

Why are you guys pulling for a tank this year?

Theyre gonna be shocked when we send Spurs the 7th pick.

it's going to be funny and embarrassing for masai.

Pretty sure Masai would rather send spurs the 7th instead of be forced to pick at 6th.

Unless they know something about this draft that goes against perception.

[Decipher]

Sorry guys but I didn’t realise that there’s protection on your ‘24 pick and thought it had gone

Tbh, I hadn’t checked the standings for a while and was surprised that the team had been going so poorly of late

I have only watched bits and pieces of your games lately but you’re better than that surely

[Jadoogar]

Do we have a realistic chance at? Detroit, Charlotte, Spurs and Washington have the bottom 4 on lock. The "best" we can be is 5 (in a battle with the blazers and Grizzlies). If end up 5th or 6th and suppose someone jumps us in the lottery and pushes us to 7th?

The team is so bad that we may ending getting that low regardless of what we do but i don't think we should go out of our way to tank.

The reason why we shouldn't tank is like you just said, bottom 5 is not realistic especially when guys come back from injury. Even if you have the 6th best odds, there is still a good chance the lottery luck will make you give up the pick anyway. The worse part about tanking is wasting the opportunity of having Scottie get real meaningful reps as a #1 for the first time trying to win games playing alongside IQ/RJ/Dick. A Play-In game with those 4 along side Yak will do wonders for their development going into next year. The front office and coaches can see what they need to work on in the summer and what to add to the current core 4. You want to change the culture then don't build bad habits like the Hornets/Wizards/Pistons have been doing. Play hard, try to win and see where the chips fall at the end of the year. If we keep losing at a high rate cause of injuries then so be it. Lastly if you convey the pick this year at least you have all your 1st round picks going forward instead of owing the Spurs next years 1st with protections and we are doing this all over again in a better draft when there is no guarantee we will be good. We have 2 1st round picks in this years draft and the Pistons 31st pick because of the trades so do we really need to try and go for a 4th? Compared to next year when our only pick in a better draft will be our own that could very easily be in the lottery. Again conveying the pick this year means pick flexibility going forward meaning you can now trade picks for a player instead of being in limbo again.

No one is saying losing on purpose. We are saying to focus on development and give repetitions to young players without having the WIN as the ultimate goal. You try to win but in the caveat of developing.
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The good thing about our team is that the whole roster is basically young guys. The only vets with a meaningful role are Schroeder and Poeltl and i don't think they are standing in the way of anyone's development.

All the young players are going to have plenty of opportunity to show what they got.

[Dennis 37]

Sorry guys but I didn’t realise that there’s protection on your ‘24 pick and thought it had gone

Tbh, I hadn’t checked the standings for a while and was surprised that the team had been going so poorly of late

I have only watched bits and pieces of your games lately but you’re better than that surely

Jakpb Poeltl being out for 2 weeks is the main problem.

[Uzimlk]

The good ol Lully kiss

[Boogie!]

that's not saying much

It is. It means he's playable and actually provides value. McDaniels has not once scored 20 points for us. Nwora did it in like his 2nd or 3rd game with us.

I am sure precious had a few good games for us as well

Nwora does things like make 3s at a level that shows it’s possible to be more consistent with it. Precious or McDaniel have never shown any consistent basketball skills that they can hang their hat on. That you can at least say they can do that ONE thing really well that it makes a difference. I mean it’s obvious to me that nwora has the potential to carve out a role in the nba. I don’t see the same with McDaniela or precious they’re not good players.