A new chapter - Updated Lineups and Salaries

[DelAbbot]

Thanks Jermaine OBosh for the article but I'm disappointed to not hear that "we have opened up a max under the cap to chase a star FA, with the shrinking of Kelly's caphold".

Operating above cap during a rebuild is the Masai special - dumb as helll

[Duffman100]

Thanks Jermaine OBosh for the article but I'm disappointed to not hear that "we have opened up a max under the cap to chase a star FA, with the shrinking of Kelly's caphold".

Operating above cap during a rebuild is the Masai special - dumb as helll

Who is the star FA available?

[Merit]

Thanks Jermaine OBosh for the article but I'm disappointed to not hear that "we have opened up a max under the cap to chase a star FA, with the shrinking of Kelly's caphold".

Operating above cap during a rebuild is the Masai special - dumb as helll

Who is the star FA available?

I would’ve said Nic Claxton but we don’t need him now.

I like Indiana’s smith though.

[islandboy53]

Thanks Jermaine OBosh for the article but I'm disappointed to not hear that "we have opened up a max under the cap to chase a star FA, with the shrinking of Kelly's caphold".

Operating above cap during a rebuild is the Masai special - dumb as helll

Who is the star FA available?

Anyone who believes that we are using cap space to sign a "star FA" is delusional. There are no stars likely to be available, and if there are, they're not coming to Toronto.

[TimeForChange]

Thanks Jermaine OBosh for the article but I'm disappointed to not hear that "we have opened up a max under the cap to chase a star FA, with the shrinking of Kelly's caphold".

Operating above cap during a rebuild is the Masai special - dumb as helll

Who is the star FA available?

Thanasis Antetokounmpo

[Statistician MK]

UPDATE

Without the Bruce's Brown's salary, there are just $100,000,000 for the next season...
More than enough money to spend for a new starting PF, and two good bench players (PG + PF)...
And many young players!

[KL78192020]

UPDATE

Without the Bruce's Brown's salary, there are just $100,000,000 for the next season...
More than enough money to spend for a new starting PF, and two good bench players (PG + PF)...
And many young players!

This is wrong, Quickley will be in the low 20's with his new contract, plus a couple of rookies with the Indy pick and Pistons pick is another 5 million and couple more minimum roster cap holds, there won't be much left if anything thing

[ArthurVandelay]

UPDATE

Without the Bruce's Brown's salary, there are just $100,000,000 for the next season...
More than enough money to spend for a new starting PF, and two good bench players (PG + PF)...
And many young players!

The chart doesn’t count IQ cap hold, currently $6m, which I believe doubles to $12m if he starts 41 games this year, he’s currently at 27 games started with 20 games to go.

Also doesn’t include roster spot holds or #15/16/17/18 pick.

They would have less than $30m cap space if they let Brown and Trent go, more like $25m at most.

[Statistician MK]

The chart doesn’t count IQ cap hold, currently $6m, which I believe doubles to $12m if he starts 41 games this year, he’s currently at 27 games started with 20 games to go.

I don't think the IQ cap hold is a problem... He will have a new contract... I hope so!

Also doesn’t include roster spot holds or #15/16/17/18 pick.

It's a total od $2-3M, for all of them!

They would have less than $30m cap space if they let Brown and Trent go, more like $25m at most.

It could be more... Without Brown, Trent Jr and Temple... And I believe Boucher and McDaniels will be out of the team as well... Maybe not before the start of the season, but most likely before the trade deadline...

Next year the Salary Cap is $141M...
The Luxury Tax Threshold will be around $170-180M... At this moment, almost half of the teams are there!

[ArthurVandelay]

The chart doesn’t count IQ cap hold, currently $6m, which I believe doubles to $12m if he starts 41 games this year, he’s currently at 27 games started with 20 games to go.

I don't think the IQ cap hold is a problem... He will have a new contract... I hope so!

Also doesn’t include roster spot holds or #15/16/17/18 pick.

It's a total od $2-3M, for all of them!

They would have less than $30m cap space if they let Brown and Trent go, more like $25m at most.

It could be more... Without Brown, Trent Jr and Temple... And I believe Boucher and McDaniels will be out of the team as well... Maybe not before the start of the season, but most likely before the trade deadline...

Next year the Salary Cap is $141M...
The Luxury Tax Threshold will be around $170-180M... At this moment, almost half of the teams are there!

I don't think you are grasping some of the nuances of the CBA.

IQ new contract is going to be in the ballpark of $25m. That will be signed after they decide to do with any possible cap space. If they sign it first, he goes from $6m QO (possibly $12M if he starts 41 games) to $25ish.

The Pacers first round pick will be somewhere around $3.5-4m. Each incomplete roster charge is around $1.2m, currently 3 so $3.6m. That's pushing $7m total, not $2-3m.

All of my numbers were based off $141. I didn't use a calculator but I'm close enough to the $25m. Boucher and McDaniels are still on the roster so it's kind of fantasy land to just assume their contracts magically disappear without any salary coming back.

[Statistician MK]

Boucher and McDaniels are still on the roster so it's kind of fantasy land to just assume their contracts magically disappear without any salary coming back.

That "salary coming back" is for the "two good bench players (PG + PF)" from my post above...
e.g. Trading Boucher + early 2nd round draft pick, and getting back a good backup PG or PF, to improve the bench squad...

I'm aware that typing on the keyboard is much easier than doing it in reality, but sometimes we can afford to fantasize a little!:)

[ArthurVandelay]

Boucher and McDaniels are still on the roster so it's kind of fantasy land to just assume their contracts magically disappear without any salary coming back.

That "salary coming back" is for the "two good bench players (PG + PF)" from my post above...
e.g. Trading Boucher + early 2nd round draft pick, and getting back a good backup PG or PF, to improve the bench squad...

I'm aware that typing on the keyboard is much easier than doing it in reality, but it's not a problem to fantasize a little sometimes!:)

Lol yeah fantasies are often much more pleasureable than reality

Fwiw I don’t think Boucher and McDaniels return good salary. I could see a longer term undesirable contract though, but why do Raptors want that?

Going to be an interesting off season that’s for sure

[Merit]

UPDATE

Without the Bruce's Brown's salary, there are just $100,000,000 for the next season...
More than enough money to spend for a new starting PF, and two good bench players (PG + PF)...
And many young players!

The chart doesn’t count IQ cap hold, currently $6m, which I believe doubles to $12m if he starts 41 games this year, he’s currently at 27 games started with 20 games to go.

Also doesn’t include roster spot holds or #15/16/17/18 pick.

They would have less than $30m cap space if they let Brown and Trent go, more like $25m at most.

Great find. Didn’t know that. Hopefully they sit him a few games.

[Tor_Raps]

Does anyone know how much cap space the Raptors will have this offseason after the Olynyk extension?

Part of not trading Brown that pisses me off is that we will also have 23M less cap space to make a splash with. So the lost opportunity could be the Knicks 2024 1st rounder + the potential player we could have gotten in free agency.

[tecumseh18]

Does anyone know how much cap space the Raptors will have this offseason after the Olynyk extension?

Part of not trading Brown that pisses me off is that we will also have 23M less cap space to make a splash with. So the lost opportunity could be the Knicks 2024 1st rounder + the potential player we could have gotten in free agency.

If we let Brown and Trent both walk (which would be my preference), then the number that's been discussed is ~$30 mill. Enough to sign two FAs for each above the NTMLE. And we'd also have the room exception. Or a new thought that's intriguing me, enough to bring in DeMar and Lowry, plus JV or Drummond with the room exception.

If we had let Kelly go, it would have been over 40 mill. But cap space for what?

[Tor_Raps]

Does anyone know how much cap space the Raptors will have this offseason after the Olynyk extension?

Part of not trading Brown that pisses me off is that we will also have 23M less cap space to make a splash with. So the lost opportunity could be the Knicks 2024 1st rounder + the potential player we could have gotten in free agency.

If we let Brown and Trent both walk (which would be my preference), then the number that's been discussed is ~$30 mill. Enough to sign two FAs for each above the NTMLE. And we'd also have the room exception. Or a new thought that's intriguing me, enough to bring in DeMar and Lowry, plus JV or Drummond with the room exception.

If we had let Kelly go, it would have been over 40 mill. But cap space for what?

Letting Brown go for nothing isn't really an option when we could have gotten a damn 1st round pick for him. So with that then we have practically no cap space with this ugly ass roster currently. The asset management with this franchise is so annoying man lol.

[TimeForChange]

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/toronto-raptors/cap/2024/

[TimeForChange]

Gary's cap hold is ~$28m. He will be brought back at a contract below $20m
IQ's cap hold is ~$12.5m. He will be brought back at a contract between $25m and $30m
Bruce Brown will re-sign a deal at $13m to $15m for more years or be waived/traded.

They will still have room to sign a free agent if needed. The free agency class this year, like the draft, is trash though.

[tecumseh18]

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/toronto-raptors/cap/2024/

This assumes we renounce IQ's cap hold. We're not going to do that. So we have roughly 30 mill in cap space before signing Quickley, if Gary walks and we don't pickup BB's option.

[Fast_Feets]

Temple 3.2M just to be a model role player. Crazy. Guy just winning to ride the bench