Free Agency & Trades Rumours Thread

[youreachiteach]

Gotta see how desperate GS is with Wiggins. If they think they are getting value for him, not sure what to say. 2nd apron is already scaring teams. They will prob shop around and see if anyone is stupid to take him without giving up draft compensation.

If we take on that contract for say Brown, we would need be paid for selling Brown and taking Wiggins deal off their books, so 2 firsts else forget it. But GS would be dumb to consider that knowing they will enter a rebuild

I think two firsts is a little rich. Give me Moody and a second and I'm sold. I know Wiggins had an off year but he's basically Anunoby with less injuries. He's younger and a massive reclamation project so he'll be 15 mil less than OG will cost--plus you get extra assets?

Moody
Wiggins
2nd round 2024 pick

For Bruce Brown
Boucher

Everyone gets off players they don't play/don't want, we get Scottie's buddy who is better than other options and a starting small forward so Scottie doesn't have to get blown by at the point of attack anymore. Warriors keep their powder dry to re-sign who they want and re-load.

What say you?

[MikeG]

Gotta see how desperate GS is with Wiggins. If they think they are getting value for him, not sure what to say. 2nd apron is already scaring teams. They will prob shop around and see if anyone is stupid to take him without giving up draft compensation.

If we take on that contract for say Brown, we would need be paid for selling Brown and taking Wiggins deal off their books, so 2 firsts else forget it. But GS would be dumb to consider that knowing they will enter a rebuild

I think two firsts is a little rich. Give me Moody and a second and I'm sold. I know Wiggins had an off year but he's basically Anunoby with less injuries. He's younger and a massive reclamation project so he'll be 15 mil less than OG will cost--plus you get extra assets?

Moody
Wiggins
2nd round 2024 pick

For Bruce Brown
Boucher

Everyone gets off players they don't play/don't want, we get Scottie's buddy who is better than other options and a starting small forward so Scottie doesn't have to get blown by at the point of attack anymore. Warriors keep their powder dry to re-sign who they want and re-load.

What say you?

Huh?? Wiggins is younger than OG? Wiggins is going to be like 30 next season lol

[WuTang_CMB]

Gotta see how desperate GS is with Wiggins. If they think they are getting value for him, not sure what to say. 2nd apron is already scaring teams. They will prob shop around and see if anyone is stupid to take him without giving up draft compensation.

If we take on that contract for say Brown, we would need be paid for selling Brown and taking Wiggins deal off their books, so 2 firsts else forget it. But GS would be dumb to consider that knowing they will enter a rebuild

I think two firsts is a little rich. Give me Moody and a second and I'm sold. I know Wiggins had an off year but he's basically Anunoby with less injuries. He's younger and a massive reclamation project so he'll be 15 mil less than OG will cost--plus you get extra assets?

Moody
Wiggins
2nd round 2024 pick

For Bruce Brown
Boucher

Everyone gets off players they don't play/don't want, we get Scottie's buddy who is better than other options and a starting small forward so Scottie doesn't have to get blown by at the point of attack anymore. Warriors keep their powder dry to re-sign who they want and re-load.

What say you?

Not enough value for me. Taking on Wiggins and giving up Brown without getting a FRP back is a failure IMO and a good win for GS. I like Moody too but he hasn't shown much so far. Deal leans GS. You are probably right tho that this is what GS will offer. I think TOR passes if thats the case.

[youreachiteach]

Sorry about that--but the point still stands (not that he is younger, but that his value is better than OG due to cost).

[douggood]

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2024/5/27/24165548/philadelphia-76ers-paul-george-nba-trade-rumors-offseason

The Sixers can offer George a deal of up to four years and $212 million this summer. The Clippers can give four years and $221 million, but league sources say they haven’t offered George a dollar more than what they paid Leonard: three years, $152.4 million. The annual salaries of the potential Sixers and Clippers contracts are similar; the big difference is the additional year. If the Clippers insist on keeping Leonard as their highest-paid player while retaining long-term cap flexibility with a shorter-term contract, then he would be in the right to review his options and look for more leverage.

League sources say that OG Anunoby is also expected to remain with the Knicks

sources familiar with the Sixers’ thinking say that Brandon Ingram is the primary fallback plan. Ingram would have to be acquired in a trade from the New Orleans Pelicans since he’s under contract for $36 million with a 15 percent trade kicker through the 2024-25 season. But the Sixers could absorb him without sacrificing any salary, a major benefit to the Pelicans, who could then operate with cap space and receive draft picks from the Sixers.

[mtcan]

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2024/5/27/24165548/philadelphia-76ers-paul-george-nba-trade-rumors-offseason

The Sixers can offer George a deal of up to four years and $212 million this summer. The Clippers can give four years and $221 million, but league sources say they haven’t offered George a dollar more than what they paid Leonard: three years, $152.4 million. The annual salaries of the potential Sixers and Clippers contracts are similar; the big difference is the additional year. If the Clippers insist on keeping Leonard as their highest-paid player while retaining long-term cap flexibility with a shorter-term contract, then he would be in the right to review his options and look for more leverage.

League sources say that OG Anunoby is also expected to remain with the Knicks

sources familiar with the Sixers’ thinking say that Brandon Ingram is the primary fallback plan. Ingram would have to be acquired in a trade from the New Orleans Pelicans since he’s under contract for $36 million with a 15 percent trade kicker through the 2024-25 season. But the Sixers could absorb him without sacrificing any salary, a major benefit to the Pelicans, who could then operate with cap space and receive draft picks from the Sixers.

My guess:

PG is staying in LA.

OG staying in NY

I think Cleveland trading Garland to NO for Ingram is a very logical trade.

Philly could be stuck with a lot of cap space and no big star when it washes out.

[WuTang_CMB]

Sorry about that--but the point still stands (not that he is younger, but that his value is better than OG due to cost).

Wiggins will not get a return of 2 starting caliber players 24 and under with upside lol you have to pay to get rid of him

[navyblue]

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2024/5/27/24165548/philadelphia-76ers-paul-george-nba-trade-rumors-offseason

The Sixers can offer George a deal of up to four years and $212 million this summer. The Clippers can give four years and $221 million, but league sources say they haven’t offered George a dollar more than what they paid Leonard: three years, $152.4 million. The annual salaries of the potential Sixers and Clippers contracts are similar; the big difference is the additional year. If the Clippers insist on keeping Leonard as their highest-paid player while retaining long-term cap flexibility with a shorter-term contract, then he would be in the right to review his options and look for more leverage.

League sources say that OG Anunoby is also expected to remain with the Knicks

sources familiar with the Sixers’ thinking say that Brandon Ingram is the primary fallback plan. Ingram would have to be acquired in a trade from the New Orleans Pelicans since he’s under contract for $36 million with a 15 percent trade kicker through the 2024-25 season. But the Sixers could absorb him without sacrificing any salary, a major benefit to the Pelicans, who could then operate with cap space and receive draft picks from the Sixers.

My guess:

PG is staying in LA.

OG staying in NY

I think Cleveland trading Garland to NO for Ingram is a very logical trade.

Philly could be stuck with a lot of cap space and no big star when it washes out.

KOC says on that scenario, they do signings like Bruce Brown with intentions to flip them during season.

[WuTang_CMB]

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1. LeBron James
Los Angeles Lakers | F | Player option
Projected WAR: 24.4

A three-year projection for James, who will turn 40 in December, is pushing it. At some point, how long James wants to play will be more important than how well he can play. Still, given James was an All-NBA pick this season -- and on my second team -- he is likely to be the best player in this group next year, if healthy, and retain significant value beyond.

2. Paul George
LA Clippers | F/G | Player option
Projected WAR: 23.3

Due to his playing style being more dependent on physical skills, George -- who turned 34 in March -- is forecast to lose more of his value over the next three seasons than James. Nonetheless, if he leaves the Clippers, George will have the best three-year projection for a player who changed teams since the star-studded 2019 free agency. No wonder ESPN's Brian Windhorst reported earlier this month that George is at the top of the list for the 76ers, who have max-plus cap space to build around their core.

3. Tyrese Maxey
Philadelphia 76ers | G | Restricted
Projected WAR: 21.6

The whole reason the Sixers are uniquely positioned to add a top free agent is Maxey's bargain $13 million cap hold, which prices him in at a fraction of the 25% max contract he is likely to secure as a restricted free agent. Having developed into an All-Star at age 23, Maxey is projected behind only James by the end of the three-year window. Philadelphia can shop for a star in free agency then exceed the cap to re-sign Maxey to a long-term deal.

4. Immanuel Quickley
Toronto Raptors | G | Restricted
Projected WAR: 20.9


My projections are also high on Quickley, Maxey's backcourt mate at Kentucky who likewise just completed his rookie contract. In 38 games with the Raptors, who acquired Quickley as part of the deal sending OG Anunoby to the Knicks, Quickley averaged 18.6 points per game and 6.8 assists per game, the latter nearly doubling his previous career high. Quickley's efficiency predictably dropped in a larger role, but it was important proof of concept that his productivity as a sixth man with the Knicks could translate against starters. Given Quickley will turn 25 in June, there's probably still more development to come.

5. James Harden
LA Clippers | G | Unrestricted
Projected WAR: 18.4

Second on this list a year ago, when he declined a player option and requested the trade that ultimately sent him to the Clippers, Harden suffers from looking a year deeper into his future. The three-year window now takes Harden through age 37, and while his projected value in 2024-25 ranks third among free agents, that drops to 11th by 2026-27.

6. De'Anthony Melton
Philadelphia 76ers | G | Unrestricted
Projected WAR: 17.2

Melton's ongoing back issues quietly helped derail Philadelphia's season in combination with the absence of MVP center Joel Embiid. The 76ers went 22-11 in Melton's 33 starts, but he played just six games after Jan. 12. When healthy, Melton is a standout in terms of adjusted plus-minus impact because of his versatile defense and capable 3-point shooting (37% career). And Melton -- who will turn 26 on Tuesday -- is right in his prime years.

7. Pascal Siakam
Indiana Pacers | F | Unrestricted
Projected WAR: 16.6

Adding Siakam midseason as a second star alongside Tyrese Haliburton helped elevate the Pacers to the Eastern Conference finals. Projecting ahead, Siakam could start to lose some value on his next contract. He turned 30 in April, and similar players at the same age saw their per-minute productivity drop by 5% the following season. Nonetheless, Siakam projects as an above-average starter for years to come.

8. OG Anunoby
New York Knicks | F | Player option
Projected WAR: 13.8

Box score stats, in particular, might not capture the value of Anunoby's rock-solid play at both ends of the court. His impact on the Knicks was obvious after they added him in late December. New York went 20-3 (.870) with Anunoby in the lineup the rest of the season and started the playoffs 6-2 before the left hamstring strain that sidelined him through an ill-fated attempt to play in the Knicks' Game 7 loss to Indiana.

9. DeMar DeRozan
Chicago Bulls | F | Unrestricted
Projected WAR: 13.8


It's a testament to how well DeRozan has offset the effects of aging that his projection is actually better now than when he hit free agency three years ago and joined the Bulls via a sign-and-trade deal. During that span, DeRozan was an All-Star twice and finished as runner-up for this year's Jerry West Clutch Player of the Year Award. At some point, DeRozan might be slowed by age, as he will turn 35 this summer after leading the NBA in minutes played this season. For now, bet against him at your own risk.

10. Malik Monk
Sacramento Kings | G | Unrestricted
Projected WAR: 12.6

Monk averaged a career-high 15.4 points and 5.1 assists in just 26 minutes per game and was the odds-on favorite for the Sixth Man of the Year Award before a sprained right MCL ended his season early, hurting Sacramento's bid to make the playoffs for a second consecutive season. A free agent for the third time in the past four summers, Monk is just entering his prime at age 26, making him an intriguing target for a team willing to test the Kings' willingness to possibly go into the luxury tax to re-sign him.

11. Nic Claxton
Brooklyn Nets | C | Unrestricted
Projected WAR: 12.1

Claxton's value is built more on his leaping ability and speed than his skill, so it's possible we've already seen his peak level of play by age 25. Nonetheless, Claxton figures to hold his value as a quality starting center over the life of his next contract.

12. Tobias Harris
Philadelphia 76ers | F | Unrestricted projected
WAR: 11.9

Evaluated based on the five-year, $180 million contract he signed with Philly in the summer of 2019, Harris was always going to come up short. On what could be a more appropriate deal this time around, Harris looks far better as a capable 3-point shooter (37% for his career) who also can create his own offense.

13. Gary Trent Jr.
Toronto Raptors | G | Unrestricted
Projected WAR: 11.8

After exercising an $18.6 million player option for 2023-24, Trent saw his production sink to its lowest point -- averaging 13.7 PPG in 28.1 MPG -- since becoming a part-time starter in 2020-21. At 25, there's little to suggest a decline in Trent's underlying ability, making him a strong bounce-back candidate for next season.

[CazOnReal]

Quickley at 4 re: this free agency class is pretty wild - and I say this as someone who sees a potential All-Star guard in IQ.

[PhilBlackson]

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2024/5/27/24165548/philadelphia-76ers-paul-george-nba-trade-rumors-offseason

The Sixers can offer George a deal of up to four years and $212 million this summer. The Clippers can give four years and $221 million, but league sources say they haven’t offered George a dollar more than what they paid Leonard: three years, $152.4 million. The annual salaries of the potential Sixers and Clippers contracts are similar; the big difference is the additional year. If the Clippers insist on keeping Leonard as their highest-paid player while retaining long-term cap flexibility with a shorter-term contract, then he would be in the right to review his options and look for more leverage.

League sources say that OG Anunoby is also expected to remain with the Knicks

sources familiar with the Sixers’ thinking say that Brandon Ingram is the primary fallback plan. Ingram would have to be acquired in a trade from the New Orleans Pelicans since he’s under contract for $36 million with a 15 percent trade kicker through the 2024-25 season. But the Sixers could absorb him without sacrificing any salary, a major benefit to the Pelicans, who could then operate with cap space and receive draft picks from the Sixers.

My guess:

PG is staying in LA.

OG staying in NY

I think Cleveland trading Garland to NO for Ingram is a very logical trade.

Philly could be stuck with a lot of cap space and no big star when it washes out.

Donovan Mitchell is & will be THE story of the off-season...I'm not betting my $ on him staying lol

That's a massive couple of "ifs" to that scenario though as it pertains to CLE.

a) is it definitive that Mitchell wants to come back (I'm genuinely asking, bc ofc CLE wants to keep but does he want to stay?)
b) if they trade Garland for Ingram...does Ingram want to stay?

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Lol that's MASSIVE risk on CLE's side unless that Mitchell extension is getting done. On paper that would be a great swap for each team but unless I legitimately missed the story, I haven't heard Donovan wants to stay/re-sign, only that CLE wants him & conversely Garland saying IF that's the case he wants out. Nothing I've read has stated Mitchell's intentions to stay.

Things MUST be crystal clear from BOTH Mitchell & Ingram that they intend on re-signing. If so again, I think that would be a great trade for each party.

But what would you guess Mitchell wants?! To stay in CLE, likely top out as a 3rd seed, that's a tough out but not a REAL contender OR go back home to NYK where you will become a deity for just making a Finals & I believe him and Brunson could beat BOS....or join Maxey & Embiid and on paper they should be the favorites out of the East so join an immediate championship contender OR go to the opposite of CLE to LaLa Land where you'll live like a rockstar and have a chance to win a chip too. Why does CLE not sound like the greatest idea unless it's really just all about the money and is it possible to make up for a lot of the money in one of those major markets?! I'm struggling to believe he'll stay but maybe Gibson has great relationships with his players

He GONE imo, I feel like the NBA is just holding off the news so they have something to tease & talk about all summer until the move gets done just a couple of weeks or so before training camps. Seems like quite a predictable plot but we'll see I guess..

[navyblue]

^^ ESPN Kevin pelton rankings have Melton at 6, he is someone I would love with the mle.

[Asif16]

Not a fan of trading with the Spurs anymore but would we be interested in Keldon Johnson?

Spurs are willing to listen on offers apparently

[DreamTeam09]

Not a fan of trading with the Spurs anymore but would we be interested in Keldon Johnson?

Spurs are willing to listen on offers apparently

For Bruce Brown I wouldn't hate it at all.

[ArthurVandelay]

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2024/5/27/24165548/philadelphia-76ers-paul-george-nba-trade-rumors-offseason

The Sixers can offer George a deal of up to four years and $212 million this summer. The Clippers can give four years and $221 million, but league sources say they haven’t offered George a dollar more than what they paid Leonard: three years, $152.4 million. The annual salaries of the potential Sixers and Clippers contracts are similar; the big difference is the additional year. If the Clippers insist on keeping Leonard as their highest-paid player while retaining long-term cap flexibility with a shorter-term contract, then he would be in the right to review his options and look for more leverage.

League sources say that OG Anunoby is also expected to remain with the Knicks

sources familiar with the Sixers’ thinking say that Brandon Ingram is the primary fallback plan. Ingram would have to be acquired in a trade from the New Orleans Pelicans since he’s under contract for $36 million with a 15 percent trade kicker through the 2024-25 season. But the Sixers could absorb him without sacrificing any salary, a major benefit to the Pelicans, who could then operate with cap space and receive draft picks from the Sixers.

My guess:

PG is staying in LA.

OG staying in NY

I think Cleveland trading Garland to NO for Ingram is a very logical trade.

Philly could be stuck with a lot of cap space and no big star when it washes out.

Murray to NO and Ingram to Atl Is also logical.

NO going to try to create competition. I think Garland and CJ backcourt would be problematic

[MikeG]

Sorry about that--but the point still stands (not that he is younger, but that his value is better than OG due to cost).

I would def be down for a Brown for Wiggins + Moody trade.

[ArthurVandelay]

Assuming no draft capital, who would you rather:

Wiggins & Moody

Or

Hunter & AJ Griffin

[CazOnReal]

Assuming no draft capital, who would you rather:

Wiggins & Moody

Or

Hunter & AJ Griffin

Easily Moody & Wiggins

Wiggins and Moody are straight up better than Hunter & Griffin, and there's nothing about Moses that makes me think he could be a distraction in the locker room. Plus I see a much easier path to Wiggins bouncing back and being flipped after buying low on him.

I think if you've got Hunter on your team, you're stuck with him unless he's attached to an asset.

[Tor_Raps]

Not a fan of trading with the Spurs anymore but would we be interested in Keldon Johnson?

Spurs are willing to listen on offers apparently

For Bruce Brown I wouldn't hate it at all.

Dude went from playing for Team USA to being a bench player for one of the worst teams in the nba. Haven't followed his career close enough to fully understand the drop in performance.

Trading with the Spurs just scares the hell out of me. We'd probably end up trading 2 unprotected 1sts for him knowing our recent history with them lol.

[Tor_Raps]

Assuming no draft capital, who would you rather:

Wiggins & Moody

Or

Hunter & AJ Griffin

I've made numerous posts about getting Wiggins plus some assets simply because he's the best fit on this roster. There's also a chance him playing at home can bring him back to the 2022 version. He was going through a lot of family stuff the past 2 years to the point he's had to leave the team to be close to home.

Hunter looked pretty good after he came back from injury. I still feel there's untapped potential with him even though he's injury prone as it gets.

With all that said, I would be happy as hell with either of those options if all we had to trade was Bruce Brown. I doubt Atlanta would do that while Gstate probably would.