Ringer: Story on Raps drafting Bruno

[ForeverTFC]

All the tools, no toolbox players are drafted all the time in sports. There really isn't much of a story. Given his performance recently, he hasn't received NBA interest apparently. That's the real story. Maybe he doesn't want to return to NBA meat grinder.

Maybe you should read the article as what you describe is not at all what the article is about.

It's really good btw, long as your not trying to sniff your own fart that is.

[ItsDanger]

All the tools, no toolbox players are drafted all the time in sports. There really isn't much of a story. Given his performance recently, he hasn't received NBA interest apparently. That's the real story. Maybe he doesn't want to return to NBA meat grinder.

Maybe you should read the article as what you describe is not at all what the article is about.

It's really good btw, long as your not trying to sniff your own fart that is.

Keeping their interest a secret? I'm highlighting the important part of the selection. These toolsy prospects are high risk high reward that teams bet on. Many fail but some occasionally hit the jackpot. But lot of teams keep their interest in certain players hidden, that's common in drafts.

[Merit]

Be great to bring back both Coboclo And Koloko.

A bit confusing, tho'.

Cabokoloko! Tempted to make that my handle LOL

[Drakeem]

I suspect the bridge between burno and masai has burnt down for whatever reason. There were many times that Masai could have brought burno back post the championship, but he still elected NOT to

Masai seems to reward loyalty and work ethic, and part of him might have felt slighted when he drafted this young kid with a first rounder and a guaranteed contract only for him to not work as hard as he could have. I think it was even reported at the time that he was far from a fanatic in the gym, and given how much he had to learn that could be an issue.

[TheGeneral99]

So this was the most interesting part of the article.

Anecdotally, there is a sense that the Raptors’ pursuit of Caboclo and maintaining his mystery was an elaborate way of controlling their own destiny, something they weren’t able to do the year prior. Toronto wanted Giannis Antetokounmpo, and were one of the few teams in the league with the guts to select a skinny 6-foot-9 kid playing second-tier Greek league basketball. But they didn’t have a pick in the 2013 NBA draft, and they couldn’t find a seller. There is footage of Ujiri trying to reclaim what the Raptors had given up prior to his regime. A brief glimpse of the Raptors’ draft room in 2013, Ujiri working the phones, just weeks into the job, with Oklahoma City for the 12th pick—a pick that was once theirs. It was a top-three-protected pick traded to the Houston Rockets as part of a deal that would land Kyle Lowry, who would one day be heralded as the greatest Raptor of all time.

[The pick was immediately rerouted to Oklahoma City in the infamous James Harden trade. Sam Presti calls back. The Thunder are keeping the pick. The light in Ujiri’s eyes dims a bit. “No deal,” he tells his crew. The entire room seems to think it’s Giannis that OKC is taking. “It might be [Steven] Adams, though,” Ujiri notes. He’s right, though it doesn’t mean much. Toronto’s other possible deal for Minnesota’s 14th pick falls through; they’re left to watch as Antetokounmpo lands in Milwaukee at 15.

Also imagine OKC takes Giannins instead of Stephen Adams...Jesus...

[ForeverTFC]

All the tools, no toolbox players are drafted all the time in sports. There really isn't much of a story. Given his performance recently, he hasn't received NBA interest apparently. That's the real story. Maybe he doesn't want to return to NBA meat grinder.

Maybe you should read the article as what you describe is not at all what the article is about.

It's really good btw, long as your not trying to sniff your own fart that is.

Keeping their interest a secret? I'm highlighting the important part of the selection. These toolsy prospects are high risk high reward that teams bet on. Many fail but some occasionally hit the jackpot. But lot of teams keep their interest in certain players hidden, that's common in drafts.

The article is about a young FO with a pedigree in player identification chasing a ghost, wholly unprepared and blind to the development needs of such prospects. It paints a picture of a bygone era where finding the next "unknown" player was the holy grail that no longer exists anymore and paints the picture of backroom dealings that we are rarely privy to. Further, it sheds light on the origins of the Raptors' well known development process; one which Siakam and FVV were groomed in and later slighted by when Scottie did not have to participate in it. More importantly, it discusses little of Bruno and his development beyond the Raptors; this is not his story but rather Masai's.

It's a well written article about your favorite team. It's enjoyable and fun to talk about. Yet you come here calling it par for the course to do what exactly?

[ItsDanger]

Maybe you should read the article as what you describe is not at all what the article is about.

It's really good btw, long as your not trying to sniff your own fart that is.

Keeping their interest a secret? I'm highlighting the important part of the selection. These toolsy prospects are high risk high reward that teams bet on. Many fail but some occasionally hit the jackpot. But lot of teams keep their interest in certain players hidden, that's common in drafts.

The article is about a young FO with a pedigree in player identification chasing a ghost, wholly unprepared and blind to the development needs of such prospects. It paints a picture of a bygone era where finding the next "unknown" player was the holy grail that no longer exists anymore and paints the picture of backroom dealings that we are rarely privy to. Further, it sheds light on the origins of the Raptors' well known development process; one which Siakam and FVV were groomed in and later slighted by when Scottie did not have to participate in it. More importantly, it discusses little of Bruno and his development beyond the Raptors; this is not his story but rather Masai's.

It's a well written article about your favorite team. It's enjoyable and fun to talk about. Yet you come here calling in par for the course to do what exactly?

That's your interpretation of the article. Mine leans towards the analytical side. Maybe you shouldn't draft an all tools raw international player if you don't have the development infrastructure in place. You should look at these stories from all angles and on a macro level sometimes.

[TheGeneral99]

Keeping their interest a secret? I'm highlighting the important part of the selection. These toolsy prospects are high risk high reward that teams bet on. Many fail but some occasionally hit the jackpot. But lot of teams keep their interest in certain players hidden, that's common in drafts.

The article is about a young FO with a pedigree in player identification chasing a ghost, wholly unprepared and blind to the development needs of such prospects. It paints a picture of a bygone era where finding the next "unknown" player was the holy grail that no longer exists anymore and paints the picture of backroom dealings that we are rarely privy to. Further, it sheds light on the origins of the Raptors' well known development process; one which Siakam and FVV were groomed in and later slighted by when Scottie did not have to participate in it. More importantly, it discusses little of Bruno and his development beyond the Raptors; this is not his story but rather Masai's.

It's a well written article about your favorite team. It's enjoyable and fun to talk about. Yet you come here calling in par for the course to do what exactly?

That's your interpretation of the article. Mine leans towards the analytical side. Maybe you shouldn't draft an all tools raw international player if you don't have the development infrastructure in place. You should look at these stories from all angles and on a macro level sometimes.

Weren't the Raptors regarded as the one of the best development teams in the NBA during that time?

Guys like Powell, Delon, Siakam, Fred, OG etc. were all drafted between 2015-2017 and became very good players despite all being outside the lottery or undrafted.

Masai took a risk with the 20th pick and didn't work. He tried trading down for Giannis in 2013, which would have been incredible but it didn't happen.

Sometimes you hit, sometimes you don't.

The fact is that Masai has hit more than most GMs in this league despite not having many lottery picks.

[TheGeneral99]

Maybe you should read the article as what you describe is not at all what the article is about.

It's really good btw, long as your not trying to sniff your own fart that is.

Keeping their interest a secret? I'm highlighting the important part of the selection. These toolsy prospects are high risk high reward that teams bet on. Many fail but some occasionally hit the jackpot. But lot of teams keep their interest in certain players hidden, that's common in drafts.

The article is about a young FO with a pedigree in player identification chasing a ghost, wholly unprepared and blind to the development needs of such prospects. It paints a picture of a bygone era where finding the next "unknown" player was the holy grail that no longer exists anymore and paints the picture of backroom dealings that we are rarely privy to. Further, it sheds light on the origins of the Raptors' well known development process; one which Siakam and FVV were groomed in and later slighted by when Scottie did not have to participate in it. More importantly, it discusses little of Bruno and his development beyond the Raptors; this is not his story but rather Masai's.

It's a well written article about your favorite team. It's enjoyable and fun to talk about. Yet you come here calling in par for the course to do what exactly?

It's just about finding the negative in anything associated with this franchise and this city.

Even in the other thread people are claiming Kawhi would never have resigned here under any circumstance despite George literally saying they almost both went to Toronto.

Really amazing to see.

[And1Skip]

The article is about a young FO with a pedigree in player identification chasing a ghost, wholly unprepared and blind to the development needs of such prospects. It paints a picture of a bygone era where finding the next "unknown" player was the holy grail that no longer exists anymore and paints the picture of backroom dealings that we are rarely privy to. Further, it sheds light on the origins of the Raptors' well known development process; one which Siakam and FVV were groomed in and later slighted by when Scottie did not have to participate in it. More importantly, it discusses little of Bruno and his development beyond the Raptors; this is not his story but rather Masai's.

It's a well written article about your favorite team. It's enjoyable and fun to talk about. Yet you come here calling in par for the course to do what exactly?

That's your interpretation of the article. Mine leans towards the analytical side. Maybe you shouldn't draft an all tools raw international player if you don't have the development infrastructure in place. You should look at these stories from all angles and on a macro level sometimes.

Weren't the Raptors regarded as the one of the best development teams in the NBA during that time?

Guys like Powell, Delon, Siakam, Fred, OG etc. were all drafted between 2015-2017 and became very good players despite all being outside the lottery or undrafted.

Masai took a risk with the 20th pick and didn't work. He tried trading down for Giannis in 2013, which would have been incredible but it didn't happen.

Sometimes you hit, sometimes you don't.

The fact is that Masai has hit more than most GMs in this league despite not having many lottery picks.

It was a good article, but what it didn't cover was the part where Bruno indeed was the poster child for the Raptors 905 start-up. He spent a lot of time there and what people seem to forget was even though it the 905 won their first G-league championship in 2017 thanks to brief appearances by Pascal and FVV (who then played all of the playoff games) - Bruno was the constant on that team and played a crucial role in the team's success. I remember coach Stackhouse was caught on Open Gym saying that prior to the championship clinching game, he told his wife that "I have a feeling that Bruno is going to have a big game for us" and then he did.

Yeah he got traded later to Sactown, but people forget he later played for Memphis and actually had pretty good numbers for them with rotation minutes. But its tough for any back of the roster play in the NBA to get the opportunities so yes it didn't work out for Bruno in Houston afterwards. His decision over the last couple of years to playing Euroleague was great as his per 36 numbers have been off the charts playing against tough competition. He should stay there or else he'll deal with a similar situation that Sasha Vezenkov was dealing with (with a much bigger salary) last season with Sac and why he's taking long to decide what he wants to do with the Raptors.

[ItsDanger]

It's just about finding the negative in anything associated with this franchise and this city.

Even in the other thread people are claiming Kawhi would never have resigned here under any circumstance despite George literally saying they almost both went to Toronto.

Really amazing to see.

Hyperbole, the essence of my original post was why he hasn't gotten interest in NBA recently. Yet now its spun this way? Incredible.

[Rapsalot]

For me this was a bad time. Almost everyone on this board was still in the “in Masai we trust” in some type of sick cult.

Hopefully the 10 years have given more perspective that MU is like most GM/Pres of basketball opps some good and some bad.
Bruno was terrible to JAG always but folks berated anyone that did not follow the ideas of dear leader.

[DreamTeam09]

For me this was a bad time. Almost everyone on this board was still in the “in Masai we trust” in some type of sick cult.

Hopefully the 10 years have given more perspective that MU is like most GM/Pres of basketball opps some good and some bad.
Bruno was terrible to JAG always but folks berated anyone that did not follow the ideas of dear leader.

I mean that's one way of looking at things...

On the flipside why hate on a project lol for the sake of bashing or proving some point?

[mowcrowbar]

Why are you people so obsessed with this guy... Its unhealthy. Let it go.

[WuTang_CMB]

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