Let's talk Dick!

[TheGeneral99]

36%3fg is not good considering he is a poor defender who's job is to shoot 3s. As I said its early and he is only 20 so its not the end of the world but that wouldn't be ideal on a contender.

36%3fg for a 20 year old sophmore is not terrible.

I'll give you some perspective: Kyle Korver for 4 straight seasons in his prime shot 37%, 35% 39% and 38% from 3 early in his career.

Dick shot 37% from 3 last year...I wouldn't be surprised if he hovers around 37-38% which is very, very good.

We aren't a contender.

Again, those other players were able to provide a lot more to the team than just shooting. If those are Dick's shooting number and he can provide better defense/rebounding/passing then sure. If he's still horrible in those areas then those shooting numbers aren't something I'd be excited about.

I think he's shown he can finish well and is also a pretty good cutter...but yes, his defense will be his biggest issue, no doubt about that.

I think we need to hope he emerges into a Korver, Dunleavy, Bogdonovic type of player eventually - players that are/were not good defensively but could give you 15-16 points a night on efficient shooting.

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He averaged 15ppg on 42%fg and 36%3fg in 26mpg in pre-season.

If he could do that in the real season I'll take it.

That would be horrible for a "shooter" who gets abused defensively lol. I'm hoping for something more.

Averaging 15ppg on 42%fg and 36%3fg is not horrible by any stretch, especially for a sophomore player.

What you talking about?

For comparison, Powell averaged 8ppg on 44%fg and 32%3fg in his sophmore season.

Fred was at 41%fg and 42%3fg.

Reddick hovered around those averages his first years and averaged way less ppg.

Yep.

Klay at age 21: 44% and 41% at 13ppg.
Korver at age 22: 35% and 39% at 4.5ppg.
Trae at age 20: 41% and 32% at 19ppg.
Redick at age 22: 41% and 38% at 6ppg.
Heild at age 24: 42% and 39% at 10ppg.
Bogdan at age 25: 45% and 39% at 12ppg.
McCollum at age 22: 42% and 37% at 5ppg.

Just a random sampling of players that came to mind as shooters with below average defence. If Gradey put up 15 on 42% and 36% at age 20, he is on a very good trajectory.

And that is without even getting into my personal opinion that Gradey is a more complete player than several of the players listed above.

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36%3fg is not good considering he is a poor defender who's job is to shoot 3s. As I said its early and he is only 20 so its not the end of the world but that wouldn't be ideal on a contender.

36%3fg for a 20 year old sophmore is not terrible.

I'll give you some perspective: Kyle Korver for 4 straight seasons in his prime shot 37%, 35% 39% and 38% from 3 early in his career.

Dick shot 37% from 3 last year...I wouldn't be surprised if he hovers around 37-38% which is very, very good.

We aren't a contender.

Again, those other players were able to provide a lot more to the team than just shooting. If those are Dick's shooting number and he can provide better defense/rebounding/passing then sure. If he's still horrible in those areas then those shooting numbers aren't something I'd be excited about.

Do you actually watch this team play games? Gradey is an above average re-bounder, a decent passer, and generally a very smart player. He does get targeted on defence, but that is common for a 20 year old player. If you think Gradey only provides shooting, I question how closely you actually follow the team.

[PushDaRock]

36%3fg is not good considering he is a poor defender who's job is to shoot 3s. As I said its early and he is only 20 so its not the end of the world but that wouldn't be ideal on a contender.

36%3fg for a 20 year old sophmore is not terrible.

I'll give you some perspective: Kyle Korver for 4 straight seasons in his prime shot 37%, 35% 39% and 38% from 3 early in his career.

Dick shot 37% from 3 last year...I wouldn't be surprised if he hovers around 37-38% which is very, very good.

We aren't a contender.

Again, those other players were able to provide a lot more to the team than just shooting. If those are Dick's shooting number and he can provide better defense/rebounding/passing then sure. If he's still horrible in those areas then those shooting numbers aren't something I'd be excited about.

Korver was a lock down defender? News to me.

[manjusaka]

That would be horrible for a "shooter" who gets abused defensively lol. I'm hoping for something more.

Averaging 15ppg on 42%fg and 36%3fg is not horrible by any stretch, especially for a sophomore player.

What you talking about?

For comparison, Powell averaged 8ppg on 44%fg and 32%3fg in his sophmore season.

Fred was at 41%fg and 42%3fg.

Reddick hovered around those averages his first years and averaged way less ppg.

Yep.

Klay at age 21: 44% and 41% at 13ppg.
Korver at age 22: 35% and 39% at 4.5ppg.
Trae at age 20: 41% and 32% at 19ppg.
Redick at age 22: 41% and 38% at 6ppg.
Heild at age 24: 42% and 39% at 10ppg.
Bogdan at age 25: 45% and 39% at 12ppg.
McCollum at age 22: 42% and 37% at 5ppg.

Just a random sampling of players that came to mind as shooters with below average defence. If Gradey put up 15 on 42% and 36% at age 20, he is on a very good trajectory.

And that is without even getting into my personal opinion that Gradey is a more complete player than several of the players listed above.

Dicks needs to get that 3p% at least 40%.

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Averaging 15ppg on 42%fg and 36%3fg is not horrible by any stretch, especially for a sophomore player.

What you talking about?

For comparison, Powell averaged 8ppg on 44%fg and 32%3fg in his sophmore season.

Fred was at 41%fg and 42%3fg.

Reddick hovered around those averages his first years and averaged way less ppg.

Yep.

Klay at age 21: 44% and 41% at 13ppg.
Korver at age 22: 35% and 39% at 4.5ppg.
Trae at age 20: 41% and 32% at 19ppg.
Redick at age 22: 41% and 38% at 6ppg.
Heild at age 24: 42% and 39% at 10ppg.
Bogdan at age 25: 45% and 39% at 12ppg.
McCollum at age 22: 42% and 37% at 5ppg.

Just a random sampling of players that came to mind as shooters with below average defence. If Gradey put up 15 on 42% and 36% at age 20, he is on a very good trajectory.

And that is without even getting into my personal opinion that Gradey is a more complete player than several of the players listed above.

Dicks needs to get that 3p% at least 40%.

40% is elite.

He needs to get up to 37%. I think Scottie could get to 37% this season! He looks like he's been putting in the work.

[artsncrafts]

Averaging 15ppg on 42%fg and 36%3fg is not horrible by any stretch, especially for a sophomore player.

36%3fg is not good considering he is a poor defender who's job is to shoot 3s. As I said its early and he is only 20 so its not the end of the world but that wouldn't be ideal on a contender.

36%3fg for a 20 year old sophmore is not terrible.

I'll give you some perspective: Kyle Korver for 4 straight seasons in his prime shot 37%, 35% 39% and 38% from 3 early in his career.

Dick shot 37% from 3 last year...I wouldn't be surprised if he hovers around 37-38% which is very, very good.

We aren't a contender.

I agree, we arent a contender and should be going for #1 pick so its fine, I am just discussing Dick in the scope of the NBA. I am not really worried, he is only 20, just stating he needs to improve his shooting.

[Tor_Raps]

36%3fg for a 20 year old sophmore is not terrible.

I'll give you some perspective: Kyle Korver for 4 straight seasons in his prime shot 37%, 35% 39% and 38% from 3 early in his career.

Dick shot 37% from 3 last year...I wouldn't be surprised if he hovers around 37-38% which is very, very good.

We aren't a contender.

Again, those other players were able to provide a lot more to the team than just shooting. If those are Dick's shooting number and he can provide better defense/rebounding/passing then sure. If he's still horrible in those areas then those shooting numbers aren't something I'd be excited about.

Korver was a lock down defender? News to me.

What the hell does Korver being a lock down defender have to do with anything. For every Korver, there's 10 busts who think they could be the next one. Might as well list those players to be closer to the law of average...

[Tor_Raps]

36%3fg for a 20 year old sophmore is not terrible.

I'll give you some perspective: Kyle Korver for 4 straight seasons in his prime shot 37%, 35% 39% and 38% from 3 early in his career.

Dick shot 37% from 3 last year...I wouldn't be surprised if he hovers around 37-38% which is very, very good.

We aren't a contender.

Again, those other players were able to provide a lot more to the team than just shooting. If those are Dick's shooting number and he can provide better defense/rebounding/passing then sure. If he's still horrible in those areas then those shooting numbers aren't something I'd be excited about.

Do you actually watch this team play games? Gradey is an above average re-bounder, a decent passer, and generally a very smart player. He does get targeted on defence, but that is common for a 20 year old player. If you think Gradey only provides shooting, I question how closely you actually follow the team.

For the record, I actually like Dick and his potential. I was just going off the thought that his training camp shooting numbers were good enough for the season.

I have higher hopes and think the guy we saw in the 2nd half of last year is what we'll see with small improvements on everything else such as rebounding, passing, dribbling and overall defense.

In the end, Dick won't be good enough to earn playing time if he doesn't shoot the ball well. I have faith he'll be able to do exactly that.

[PushDaRock]

Again, those other players were able to provide a lot more to the team than just shooting. If those are Dick's shooting number and he can provide better defense/rebounding/passing then sure. If he's still horrible in those areas then those shooting numbers aren't something I'd be excited about.

Korver was a lock down defender? News to me.

What the hell does Korver being a lock down defender have to do with anything. For every Korver, there's 10 busts who think they could be the next one. Might as well list those players to be closer to the law of average...

You were the one saying those players were able to provide a lot more to the team than just shooting.

[DreamTeam09]

11-28 above the break 3s
1-7 from the corners
62% on pull up 2s

Last year 40% of his 3s were from the corner

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11-28 above the break 3s
1-7 from the corners
62% on pull up 2s

Last year 40% of his 3s were from the corner

Yea I’m not worried. It was his corner 3s that were pulling his numbers down and he proved last season on a big enough sample size that he’s a good corner 3 point shooter. It was the above the break that he struggled with and now he’s hitting them much better. Also his process has always been great. He’s taken a step and he’ll be just fine offensively. It’s the defence that should be everyone’s worry not his shooting. Especially since he’s shown he can do other things on offence even if he’s not a knockdown shooter currently.

[mrdressup]

Klay Thompson could never put the ball on the floor and wasn't a great passer or playmaker. Defense and shooting was it...Dick has a broader game that may not need to be elite in any aspect. I sure hope he involves into a knock down shooter, but not just that.