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Dick vs Ochai vs Ja’Kobe

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Re: Dick vs Ochai vs Ja’Kobe 

Post#101 » by Indeed » Sat Mar 22, 2025 2:04 pm

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YogurtProducer wrote:IDK what player you are even referring to here.

Best passer of the 3 is Walter.
Best scorer is probably Dick, but Walter might surpass.
Highest pedigree is honestly probably Agbaji
Best rebounder is easily Walter/Ocahi
Worst defender is easily Dick, best is Ocahi


You're projecting future that might, might not come to fruition.
RJ is a better passer than Walter, they can make the same reads but RJ is bigger, Walter might develop into the best of things work out because he can get to the rim in more of a variety.
When GD can avg 21 on like 48%FG for over 82games, then I'll give him the crown, till then no. Better shooter of course
RJ was the #3 pick team Canada too Dawg, son of NBA player godson of NBA star attended Duke & was 1 n done, how on earth is Ochai's pedigree higher?
Again I don't see how rj isn't the best rebounder, the numbers r in his favor and he's bigger


Look a 30 million per year player who is empty calories is definitely the worst bet out of all guards we have right now.
Lets not argue semantics.As this team is currently build Ochai for 10 million is a much better fit in the line up than a 30 million dollar RJ.There was a damn good reason for Massai wanting to trade RJ for B.I before the actual trade.The main reason why I mentioned RJ here is because once he is removed it will free up a lot of minutes, we can truly find out who is the keeper out of our young guards and give them more pt to develop and display their skills.


If we are to reduce the inefficent usage of Barnes and make him more off ball, Agbaji may not be enough. I doubt Ingram will take all the Barnes and Barrett possessions, and the frequency of Quickley passing out is not as frequent to make use of Agbaji

You will need more from Agbaji. This is why Walter and Shead are the better fit with their ability to handle and attack, but I still doubt we have enough offense (and both Ingram and Barrett might be more efficient reducing to 25% usage as compare to being the pure 1st option around 30%)
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Re: Dick vs Ochai vs Ja’Kobe 

Post#102 » by hyper316 » Sat Mar 22, 2025 2:11 pm

RJ shot 55.3 fg% and 39.2 3pt% just a year ago as a raptor in 32 games. Darko limited his game to just drives and 3pts. This year is handling the ball more, asked to create and taking those bad midrange shots like he did in New York. I think RJ is fixable as long as Darko is not asking him to do more
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Re: Dick vs Ochai vs Ja’Kobe 

Post#103 » by Indeed » Sat Mar 22, 2025 2:13 pm

DreamTeam09 wrote:
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He's the biggest player of the other 3
He's the best passer of the other 3
He's the best scorer of the other 3
He has the highest pedigree of the other 3
He might be the best rebounder of the other 3
He's not the worst defender of the other 3

IDK what player you are even referring to here.

Best passer of the 3 is Walter.
Best scorer is probably Dick, but Walter might surpass.
Highest pedigree is honestly probably Agbaji
Best rebounder is easily Walter/Ocahi
Worst defender is easily Dick, best is Ocahi


You're projecting future that might, might not come to fruition.
RJ is a better passer than Walter, they can make the same reads but RJ is bigger, Walter might develop into the best of things work out because he can get to the rim in more of a variety.
When GD can avg 21 on like 48%FG for over 82games, then I'll give him the crown, till then no. Better shooter of course
RJ was the #3 pick team Canada too Dawg, son of NBA player godson of NBA star attended Duke & was 1 n done, how on earth is Ochai's pedigree higher?
Again I don't see how rj isn't the best rebounder, the numbers r in his favor and he's bigger


Walter may improve his passing to Barrett level, but he (and anyone on the list) will not be as quick as him nor capable of providing rim pressure. The qucik first step cannot be taught.

I would not object to trade Barrett, but we need someone with rim pressure and shooting before we can replace him. Quickley nor Ingram do not provide that, meaning we are just a jump shooting team, low free throw rate team.
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Re: Dick vs Ochai vs Ja’Kobe 

Post#104 » by tms » Sat Mar 22, 2025 8:44 pm

Speaking of Dick, love how he's getting some exposure down south...

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Re: Dick vs Ochai vs Ja’Kobe 

Post#105 » by Basketball_Jones » Sat Mar 22, 2025 8:48 pm

What’s up with Gradey he’s been injured a long time. Need to sit Ochai and Kobe and let teams attack Gradey for the loss
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