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[Madvillainy2004]

If is disappointing

I also wouldn’t put a ton of stock into this season. The **** show of injuries and lineups we’ve thrown out and the blatant tanking I feel like messes with Scottie more than anyone else

The dude is an emotional guy. I can 100% see him slacking off when he knows no one cares about wins. He’s been a questionable motor guy his entire career, it really isn’t surprising it’s fallen off a cliff to end this year

Motor was never Scottie’s issue though. He’s always cheering on the bench and rooting the guys on. That’s like saying draymond is a **** offensive player because he lacks a motor. Which we all know isn’t true.

Scottie just lacks offensive skills. I’ve said this since his sophomore season, his athleticism is overrated in that it’s not the type that’s dominant enough to exploit defenses, and he really needs a consistent 3 to be an offensive threat. He made a leap last season in his 3 point shooting which was a positive development and seemed like with more work could be a consistent part of his game, but it’s fallen off a cliff again this season… and as you can see, so has his offense.

I always said he had no go to move and all I would get were these smartass responses like “how does a guy put up 20/93838:&38&3/933& with no go to move haha idiot” and somehow kept telling me I was the emotional one when I would argue with them. No idea why people get so Invested in players without actually understanding or being objective to their skills. This is the same **** that’s happening with gradey dick. And then in a few years when they realize he stinks they’re gonna use the argument “well there’s no way you could’ve known for sure, anyway can say **** in hindsight blah blah.” And then every year when I make an assessment on a player tjeyr gonna tel me I have no idea what I’m talking about and to be patient.

Guys you’ve been watching basketball for so long how do you still not know what good basketball looks like.

Motors been Scottie’s problem since day 1 what are you talking about? People used to say it was because of the “pecking order”, but no, it’s just who Scottie is. He’s a super emotional player with high highs and low lows.

And bruh come on. You have just as many garbage takes as anyone on this site. You like to think your gods gift to RealGM but you’re just as unreasonable as anyone else.

You like to be negative on players and brag when you’re right. You don’t realize that the overwhelming majority of players “disappoint” so when you say every single one does you’re bound to be right more than you’re wrong. Congratulations.

Why does Scottie even get the leeway of "not trying" on a bad team? He's only ever been on 1 good team and he was the like 3rd or 4th option then lol this isn't like Draymond green when klay/Curry were hurt and he kinda slacked off. He should be hungry to prove himself to be one of the best player in the league regardless of our record.

[Basketball_Jones]

Oh thank god!

[HumbleRen]

Scottie will be fine next year if he cuts his threes. I mean not great but fine. He has to do his damage in the paint. Teams are probably happy to give him the open 3.

I'm not sure if he has the self awareness to realize he sucks at 3s, nor do I think Darko has the balls to tell him lol.

He’s barely putting up 3’s and he’s having his worst offensive stretch of the season. It’s not just 3’s, his touch around the rim is has been gone for a full calendar year at this point.

[Reeko]

Scottie will be fine next year if he cuts his threes. I mean not great but fine. He has to do his damage in the paint. Teams are probably happy to give him the open 3.

I'm not sure if he has the self awareness to realize he sucks at 3s, nor do I think Darko has the balls to tell him lol.

I think he should be heavily restricted to corner 3s at this stage, he still makes those at a respectable clip, 34% on the season. But yeah, driving and mid range should be his bread and butter night in and night out. The question at this stage is is he willing to adopt the mentality of consistently attacking the basket every game?

When it matters most I'm confident he will show up and dominate on both ends of the floor. But it's a long season and I think he's prone to lulls on offense when he feels like the game just isn't that interesting, and he's much more likely to defer on offense and let his teammates do most of the scoring. In that respect he's much more of a ceiling raiser than he is a floor raiser.

[hyper316]

Scottie will be fine next year if he cuts his threes. I mean not great but fine. He has to do his damage in the paint. Teams are probably happy to give him the open 3.

I'm not sure if he has the self awareness to realize he sucks at 3s, nor do I think Darko has the balls to tell him lol.

He’s barely putting up 3’s and he’s having his worst offensive stretch of the season. It’s not just 3’s, his touch around the rim is has been gone for a full calendar year at this point.

At this point, league-wide defense is sagging on Barnes with the ball and Barnes is stuck taking midrange and open 3s. I don't see Barnes getting super efficient on those shots to respect his shot to guard him different because his threat at the basket is always greater.

That's why I think we need Barnes in a different role as a play finisher instead of primary playmaker, make cuts and flash in the paint attack the rim when he has momentum. Barnes doesn't have the handle to penetrate on his own from stand still, defense will always sag

[Reeko]

I'm not sure if he has the self awareness to realize he sucks at 3s, nor do I think Darko has the balls to tell him lol.

He’s barely putting up 3’s and he’s having his worst offensive stretch of the season. It’s not just 3’s, his touch around the rim is has been gone for a full calendar year at this point.

At this point, league-wide defense is sagging on Barnes with the ball and Barnes is stuck taking midrange and open 3s. I don't see Barnes getting super efficient on those shots to the point def will guard him different because his threat at the basket is always greater.

That's why I think we need Barnes in a different role as a play finisher instead of primary playmaker, make cuts and flash in the paint attack the rim when he has momentum. Barnes doesn't have the handle to penetrate on his own from stand still, defense will always sag

I'd also like to see him used more as a play finisher. Run more actions with him as the screener either rolling to the basket or popping from the mid range.

[hyper316]

He’s barely putting up 3’s and he’s having his worst offensive stretch of the season. It’s not just 3’s, his touch around the rim is has been gone for a full calendar year at this point.

At this point, league-wide defense is sagging on Barnes with the ball and Barnes is stuck taking midrange and open 3s. I don't see Barnes getting super efficient on those shots to the point def will guard him different because his threat at the basket is always greater.

That's why I think we need Barnes in a different role as a play finisher instead of primary playmaker, make cuts and flash in the paint attack the rim when he has momentum. Barnes doesn't have the handle to penetrate on his own from stand still, defense will always sag

I'd also like to see him used more as a play finisher. Run more actions with him as the screener either rolling to the basket or popping from the mid range.

Ya, when was the last time you see Barnes set a screen and roll to the basket?

I can only recall Barnes and Poeltl playing high-low for easy buckets.

Everything Barnes scoring these days are tough shots

[PushDaRock]

Scottie will be fine next year if he cuts his threes. I mean not great but fine. He has to do his damage in the paint. Teams are probably happy to give him the open 3.

I disagree, he has to keep shooting them. You can't have him and Jak as complete non shooters out there together. He's not even taking many in the first place and most of them are wide open, he can't pass those up or you're going to have zero spacing out there and no way to make the offense work.

[Reeko]

At this point, league-wide defense is sagging on Barnes with the ball and Barnes is stuck taking midrange and open 3s. I don't see Barnes getting super efficient on those shots to the point def will guard him different because his threat at the basket is always greater.

That's why I think we need Barnes in a different role as a play finisher instead of primary playmaker, make cuts and flash in the paint attack the rim when he has momentum. Barnes doesn't have the handle to penetrate on his own from stand still, defense will always sag

I'd also like to see him used more as a play finisher. Run more actions with him as the screener either rolling to the basket or popping from the mid range.

Ya, when was the last time you see Barnes set a screen and roll to the basket?

I can only recall Barnes and Poeltl playing high-low for easy buckets.

Everything Barnes scoring these days are tough shots

Wasn't he acting way more in that capacity in the Golden State game? Anyway, he's a really talented player who is being asked to do a lot and because he's experienced so much turnover with the roster in his 4 years here his role hasn't been established, he's sort of just been asked to do almost everything. I think he's the best player on our team by a pretty wide margin, it's just a question of how does the team utilize him to get the most out of his talents.

[mihaic]

Scottie will be fine next year if he cuts his threes. I mean not great but fine. He has to do his damage in the paint. Teams are probably happy to give him the open 3.

I disagree, he has to keep shooting them. You can't have him and Jak as complete non shooters out there together. He's not even taking many in the first place and most of them are wide open, he can't pass those up or you're going to have zero spacing out there and no way to make the offense work.

I disagree. You shouldn't take a shot you cannot make. If you did that playing with your buddies what would they say? Pass the ball, screen, crash the boards, get close, or let someone else who can shoot do the 3 and midrange shooting.

I am almost just as comfortable with Poeltl taking the 3 cause the result is about the same. I mean for a max contract this will be so bad, everyone will turn on him.

[PushDaRock]

Scottie will be fine next year if he cuts his threes. I mean not great but fine. He has to do his damage in the paint. Teams are probably happy to give him the open 3.

I disagree, he has to keep shooting them. You can't have him and Jak as complete non shooters out there together. He's not even taking many in the first place and most of them are wide open, he can't pass those up or you're going to have zero spacing out there and no way to make the offense work.

I disagree. You shouldn't take a shot you cannot make. If you did that playing with your buddies what would they say? Pass the ball, screen, crash the boards, get close, or let someone else who can shoot do the 3 and midrange shooting.

I am almost just as comfortable with Poeltl taking the 3 cause the result is about the same. I mean for a max contract this will be so bad, everyone will turn on him.

It's basically a must that he becomes a passable shooter. You can't be a good offensive player without being able to shoot as a non C unless you're Zion or Giannis and able to get to the rim at will.

[Boogie!]

If is disappointing

I also wouldn’t put a ton of stock into this season. The **** show of injuries and lineups we’ve thrown out and the blatant tanking I feel like messes with Scottie more than anyone else

The dude is an emotional guy. I can 100% see him slacking off when he knows no one cares about wins. He’s been a questionable motor guy his entire career, it really isn’t surprising it’s fallen off a cliff to end this year

Motor was never Scottie’s issue though. He’s always cheering on the bench and rooting the guys on. That’s like saying draymond is a **** offensive player because he lacks a motor. Which we all know isn’t true.

Scottie just lacks offensive skills. I’ve said this since his sophomore season, his athleticism is overrated in that it’s not the type that’s dominant enough to exploit defenses, and he really needs a consistent 3 to be an offensive threat. He made a leap last season in his 3 point shooting which was a positive development and seemed like with more work could be a consistent part of his game, but it’s fallen off a cliff again this season… and as you can see, so has his offense.

I always said he had no go to move and all I would get were these smartass responses like “how does a guy put up 20/93838:&38&3/933& with no go to move haha idiot” and somehow kept telling me I was the emotional one when I would argue with them. No idea why people get so Invested in players without actually understanding or being objective to their skills. This is the same **** that’s happening with gradey dick. And then in a few years when they realize he stinks they’re gonna use the argument “well there’s no way you could’ve known for sure, anyway can say **** in hindsight blah blah.” And then every year when I make an assessment on a player tjeyr gonna tel me I have no idea what I’m talking about and to be patient.

Guys you’ve been watching basketball for so long how do you still not know what good basketball looks like.

Motors been Scottie’s problem since day 1 what are you talking about? People used to say it was because of the “pecking order”, but no, it’s just who Scottie is. He’s a super emotional player with high highs and low lows.

And bruh come on. You have just as many garbage takes as anyone on this site. You like to think your gods gift to RealGM but you’re just as unreasonable as anyone else.

You like to be negative on players and brag when you’re right. You don’t realize that the overwhelming majority of players “disappoint” so when you say every single one does you’re bound to be right more than you’re wrong. Congratulations.

Go ahead and bring up all of those garbage takes. And please don’t say delon over fvv because I’ve already heard that one before. Especially considering all the bull I got from calling fvv out, to again eventually the entire board turning on him. So again, you want to be mad at how you think I have no right to be as arrogant as I am about player evaluations, give me all the specific garbage takes that I have that obviously prove I have no idea what I’m talking about.

[Basketball_Jones]

Lol I know this part of the season is fake anyways. But man I've seen way too many of these 7 4 4 2 tos 3/12 shooting type lines from Barnes this year. It's year 4 he should be this bad on offense. Pretty funny we like did the whole "give scottie the keys" to "give Ingram the keys" in less than 2 years tho lmao

Let Ingram and IQ cook next year! Scottie/RJ/Yak can just finish plays and play defense.

[YogurtProducer]

Motor was never Scottie’s issue though. He’s always cheering on the bench and rooting the guys on. That’s like saying draymond is a **** offensive player because he lacks a motor. Which we all know isn’t true.

Scottie just lacks offensive skills. I’ve said this since his sophomore season, his athleticism is overrated in that it’s not the type that’s dominant enough to exploit defenses, and he really needs a consistent 3 to be an offensive threat. He made a leap last season in his 3 point shooting which was a positive development and seemed like with more work could be a consistent part of his game, but it’s fallen off a cliff again this season… and as you can see, so has his offense.

I always said he had no go to move and all I would get were these smartass responses like “how does a guy put up 20/93838:&38&3/933& with no go to move haha idiot” and somehow kept telling me I was the emotional one when I would argue with them. No idea why people get so Invested in players without actually understanding or being objective to their skills. This is the same **** that’s happening with gradey dick. And then in a few years when they realize he stinks they’re gonna use the argument “well there’s no way you could’ve known for sure, anyway can say **** in hindsight blah blah.” And then every year when I make an assessment on a player tjeyr gonna tel me I have no idea what I’m talking about and to be patient.

Guys you’ve been watching basketball for so long how do you still not know what good basketball looks like.

Motors been Scottie’s problem since day 1 what are you talking about? People used to say it was because of the “pecking order”, but no, it’s just who Scottie is. He’s a super emotional player with high highs and low lows.

And bruh come on. You have just as many garbage takes as anyone on this site. You like to think your gods gift to RealGM but you’re just as unreasonable as anyone else.

You like to be negative on players and brag when you’re right. You don’t realize that the overwhelming majority of players “disappoint” so when you say every single one does you’re bound to be right more than you’re wrong. Congratulations.

Go ahead and bring up all of those garbage takes. And please don’t say delon over fvv because I’ve already heard that one before. Especially considering all the bull I got from calling fvv out, to again eventually the entire board turning on him. So again, you want to be mad at how you think I have no right to be as arrogant as I am about player evaluations, give me all the specific garbage takes that I have that obviously prove I have no idea what I’m talking about.

I don’t keep a list of every players take.

I just know your username, and I know I’m read absolute crap over the years

I’m not holding it against you because literally everyone does it. But you seem to think your holier than thou or something.

[Tha Cynic]

The NBa puts a premium on offense and he still looks like a guy who can potentially become a good shooter. Some team would take a chance but he would be more of an add on in a bigger trade I think. Like RJ and Dick

RJ or IQ.
"What was Giannis traded for?"
"Quick Dick picks"

More like "Barnes Dick pick" and I would be soooo down for it lol

This wouldn’t make sense. RJ Barrett is having the best year of his career and he’s barely a plus player. His EPM is that of what Barnes was in his rookie season. RJ is most likely the easiest player to switch in the starting lineup to make this a better team and it will most likely happen before his next contract. IQ is being very impactful and not someone you should be trading before RJ unless the fit with the new player doesn’t work.

But this team is set up where a legit superstar who plays on both ends of the floor will fit in well no matter who you replace. I doubt they would do it for one of the few guys on the team who is a great defender and has a ton of room for improvement on offense.

[Son Goku 25]

Scotties stamina issues will always be a thing I believe. I mentioned this in his rookie year. I wish we took a page out of J Kidd's book dealing with Giannis, it's part of what made Giannis who is is now.