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A History of Raptors 1st Rounders

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Best / Worst Pick of All-Time

Best - Mcgrady #9
6
5%
Best - Carter #5
21
19%
Best - DeRozan #9
1
1%
Best - Siakam #27
30
27%
Best - Anunoby #23
2
2%
Worst - Radojević #12
0
No votes
Worst - Araújo #8
34
30%
Worst - Graham #16
0
No votes
Worst - Bargnani #1
14
13%
Worst - Caboclo #20
4
4%
 
Total votes: 112

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Re: A History of Raptors 1st Rounders 

Post#21 » by ontnut » Tue Jun 10, 2025 9:25 pm

tsherkin wrote:
Anticon wrote:2006 was arguably worse, as they passed on Granger twice.


I was on RealGM Radio during that draft, lmao. With Harry Palmer and Aaron Bronsteter. Wonderful time; those were two great.

But man, I was SALTY about that pick...

I was at my first ever draft watch party. More than half of us (we had about a dozen people there) wanted Granger at 7. A few guys like Gerald Green. We figured getting either one would be a win.

We took CV at 7 who turned out alright, but none of us were that enthralled with him at the draft. Like, why draft another PF beside Bosh? Questionable fit esp when we had other positions of need at the time. But whatever, we figured you can't go wrong with size, and maybe it'll be a twin tower thing. Cool.

Then Granger (and Green) kept dropping (I think many of us had Granger as a top 10 pick), we screamed with joy when it was our turn to pick. We were all thinking - there's no way we don't take him now, right? He was clearly BPA and played a position of need for athleticism and all-around game on the wing. Perfect pairing with Bosh. Worst case, we take the other guy in Green, who I think we kinda viewed as a similar player - great athlete and can play the wing.

The silence that fell over the party when we called Joey Graham's name. I've never really seen a party go from 100 to 0 so quickly. We took 2 guys who projected to play the same position as our burgeoning star player. Joey was technically a SF due to height, but he operated in the same areas as Bosh (primary at the rim, secondary long 2's). It was dumbfounding.

That was our "reward" for trading VC. Joey Graham. We got Mourning, the 2 Williams, Joey Graham, and a pick we never used (It was traded as a salary dump with Jalen Rose for AD who played 8 games, got waived, then retired...which is just another inept chapter in our putrid trade history that seems to have been forgotten). INSANE.
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Re: A History of Raptors 1st Rounders 

Post#22 » by tsherkin » Tue Jun 10, 2025 9:58 pm

ontnut wrote:Then Granger (and Green) kept dropping (I think many of us had Granger as a top 10 pick), we screamed with joy when it was our turn to pick. We were all thinking - there's no way we don't take him now, right? He was clearly BPA and played a position of need for athleticism and all-around game on the wing. Perfect pairing with Bosh. Worst case, we take the other guy in Green, who I think we kinda viewed as a similar player - great athlete and can play the wing.


Yeah, that was a bit of a puzzler, for sure.

The silence that fell over the party when we called Joey Graham's name. I've never really seen a party go from 100 to 0 so quickly. We took 2 guys who projected to play the same position as our burgeoning star player. Joey was technically a SF due to height, but he operated in the same areas as Bosh (primary at the rim, secondary long 2's). It was dumbfounding.


Yeah, that was another puzzler, as was the trade for AD, as you note.

It feels VERY nice to have moved on from that era of management.
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Re: A History of Raptors 1st Rounders 

Post#23 » by tsherkin » Tue Jun 10, 2025 10:00 pm

MoneyBall wrote:We technically didn't draft Carter but I get why he's on the list.

DeRozan at #9 is soooo underrated. I don't think we win a Championship without him. His loyalty to the franchise and his perseverance in getting better every year is a big reason why our franchise is no longer a joke.


Demar was a fun RS player. He was with us a long time, he got better perennially (even if only a little), he WANTED to be here... He was a great get. Never dominant, never that flashy, not terribly exciting to me once he became a volume scorer, but he was a solid veteran. I'm glad for his time with us, because he was a part of turning the franchise us around and a really nice, LONG stretch of being a pretty damned good team alongside Lowry.

That was the first major, extended stretch of success in franchise history, and he WAS a big part of it.
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Re: A History of Raptors 1st Rounders 

Post#24 » by TheGeneral99 » Tue Jun 10, 2025 10:15 pm

tsherkin wrote:
MoneyBall wrote:We technically didn't draft Carter but I get why he's on the list.

DeRozan at #9 is soooo underrated. I don't think we win a Championship without him. His loyalty to the franchise and his perseverance in getting better every year is a big reason why our franchise is no longer a joke.


Demar was a fun RS player. He was with us a long time, he got better perennially (even if only a little), he WANTED to be here... He was a great get. Never dominant, never that flashy, not terribly exciting to me once he became a volume scorer, but he was a solid veteran. I'm glad for his time with us, because he was a part of turning the franchise us around and a really nice, LONG stretch of being a pretty damned good team alongside Lowry.

That was the first major, extended stretch of success in franchise history, and he WAS a big part of it.


Yes, also very well liked by everyone that was here, the bench mob really respected him and he appeared to be a very positive mentor for young guys.

His leadership, consistency, and durability alongside Lowry during that era of perennial 50+ win seasons is so underrated.

It's rare now to see guys that play full seasons and with the exception of his groin injury in 2015, he played 79 games in 2014, 78 games in 2016, 74 games in 2017, and 80 games in 2018- the dude showed up.
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Re: A History of Raptors 1st Rounders 

Post#25 » by tsherkin » Tue Jun 10, 2025 10:29 pm

TheGeneral99 wrote:His leadership, consistency, and durability alongside Lowry during that era of perennial 50+ win seasons is so underrated.


Yes, 1-82, he was a wonderful player to have and he was a great personality... and he didn't bring controversy or any sort of like terrible decisions, right? That was pleasant.

It's rare now to see guys that play full seasons and with the exception of his groin injury in 2015, he played 79 games in 2014, 78 games in 2016, 74 games in 2017, and 80 games in 2018- the dude showed up.


Yeah, his availability was quite strong!
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Re: A History of Raptors 1st Rounders 

Post#26 » by ontnut » Wed Jun 11, 2025 1:36 am

tsherkin wrote:
ontnut wrote:Then Granger (and Green) kept dropping (I think many of us had Granger as a top 10 pick), we screamed with joy when it was our turn to pick. We were all thinking - there's no way we don't take him now, right? He was clearly BPA and played a position of need for athleticism and all-around game on the wing. Perfect pairing with Bosh. Worst case, we take the other guy in Green, who I think we kinda viewed as a similar player - great athlete and can play the wing.


Yeah, that was a bit of a puzzler, for sure.

The silence that fell over the party when we called Joey Graham's name. I've never really seen a party go from 100 to 0 so quickly. We took 2 guys who projected to play the same position as our burgeoning star player. Joey was technically a SF due to height, but he operated in the same areas as Bosh (primary at the rim, secondary long 2's). It was dumbfounding.


Yeah, that was another puzzler, as was the trade for AD, as you note.

It feels VERY nice to have moved on from that era of management.

Yep, our current management isn't perfect and has made mistakes. But they've at least tried to correct them and made more good decisions that not. That previous era was the textbook definition or rubbing salt in our wounds as fans lol. Dark, dark days.
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Re: A History of Raptors 1st Rounders 

Post#27 » by tsherkin » Wed Jun 11, 2025 12:31 pm

ontnut wrote:Yep, our current management isn't perfect and has made mistakes. But they've at least tried to correct them and made more good decisions that not. That previous era was the textbook definition or rubbing salt in our wounds as fans lol. Dark, dark days.


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Re: A History of Raptors 1st Rounders 

Post#28 » by mdenny » Thu Jun 12, 2025 2:04 am

OakleyDokely wrote:All the first rounders in Raptors history.

In brackets is their overall win share rank in their draft class.


1995 - #7 D Stoudamire (8th)

Pick Directly Before: B Reeves
Pick Directly After: S Respert
Best Pick Would've Been: M Finley (#21)

1996: #2 M Camby (6th)

Pick Directly Before: A Iverson
Pick Directly After: S Abdur-Rahim
Best Pick Would've Been: K Bryant (#13)

1997: #9 T Mcgrady (3rd)

Pick Directly Before: A Foyle
Pick Directly After: D Fortson
Best Pick Would've Been: Best Pick

1998: #5 V Carter (3rd)

Pick Directly Before: A Jamison
Pick Directly After: R Traylor
Best Pick Would've Been: D Nowitzki (#9)

1999: #12 A Radojević (45th)

Pick Directly Before: T Langdon
Pick Directly After: C Maggette
Best Pick Would've Been: M Ginóbili (#57)

2000: #21 M Peterson (6th)

Pick Directly Before: S Claxton
Pick Directly After: D Harvey
Best Pick Would've Been: M Redd (#43)

2001: #17 M Bradley (31st)

Pick Directly Before: K Haston
Pick Directly After: J Collins
Best Pick Would've Been: T Parker (#28)

2002: #27 C Jeffries (47th)

Pick Directly Before: J Salmons
Pick Directly After: D Dickau
Best Pick Would've Been: C Boozer (#35)

2003: #4 C Bosh (4th)

Pick Directly Before: C Anthony
Pick Directly After: D Wade
Best Pick Would've Been: D Wade (#5)

2004: #8 R Araújo (45th)

Pick Directly Before: L Deng
Pick Directly After: A Igoudala
Best Pick Would've Been: A Iguodala (#9)

2005: #7 C Villanueva (21st)

Pick Directly Before: M Webster
Pick Directly After: C Frye
Best Pick Would've Been: D Granger (#17)

2005: #16 J Graham (31st)

Pick Directly Before: A Wright
Pick Directly After: D Granger
Best Pick Would've Been: D Granger (#17)

2006: #1 A Bargnani (12th)

Pick Directly Before: N/A
Pick Directly After: L Aldridge
Best Pick Would've Been: L Aldridge (#2) / K Lowry (#24)

2007: N/A

2008: N/A

2009: #9 D DeRozan (3rd)

Pick Directly Before: J Hill
Pick Directly After: T Williams
Best Pick Would've Been: Best Pick

2010: #13 E Davis (9th)

Pick Directly Before: X Henry
Pick Directly After: P Patterson
Best Pick Would've Been: E Bledsoe (#18)

2011: #5 J Valančiūnas (4th)

Pick Directly Before: T Thompson
Pick Directly After: J Vesely
Best Pick Would've Been: K Leonard (#15)

2012: #8 T Ross (12th)

Pick Directly Before: H Barnes
Pick Directly After: A Drummond
Best Pick Would've Been: D Green (#35) / K Middleton (#39)

2013: N/A

2014: #20 B Caboclo (31st)

Pick Directly Before: G Harris
Pick Directly After: M McGary
Best Pick Would've Been: N Jokic (#41)

2015: #20 D Wright (13th)

Pick Directly Before: J Grant
Pick Directly After: J Anderson
Best Pick Would've Been: N Powell (#46)

2016: #9 J Poeltl (4th)

Pick Directly Before: M Chriss
Pick Directly After: T Maker
Best Pick Would've Been: D Sabonis (#11)

2016: #27 P Siakam (2nd)

Pick Directly Before: F Korkmaz
Pick Directly After: S Labissière
Best Pick Would've Been: Best Pick

2017: #23 OG Anunoby (10th)

Pick Directly Before: J Allen
Pick Directly After: T Lydon
Best Pick Would've Been: Best Pick

2018: N/A

2019: N/A

2020: #29 M Flynn (34th)

Pick Directly Before: J McDaniels
Pick Directly After: D Bane
Best Pick Would've Been: D Bane (#30)

2021: #4 S Barnes (4th)

Pick Directly Before: E Mobley
Pick Directly After: J Suggs
Best Pick Would've Been: TBD

2022: N/A

2023: #13 G Dick (18th)

Pick Directly Before: D Lively II
Pick Directly After: J Hawkins
Best Pick Would've Been: TBD

2024: #19 J Walter (18th)

Pick Directly Before: T Da Silva
Pick Directly After: J Tyson
Best Pick Would've Been: TBD




Oh look....the point I have been trying to make for a year now is illustrated again. Why aren't all the best draft picks in the top 5?

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