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Re: What if Giannis chooses and Toronto on short list - Does this change Conversation? 

Post#241 » by YogurtProducer » Wed Jun 11, 2025 4:32 pm

ItsDanger wrote:They just played you guys again. Stop falling for this stuff. Although I think Giannis and Bucks are making a mistake. Revisit in one year.

Entire thread is based on a hypothetical. There’s no fooling.

Off season RealGM might as well shut down if you don’t want people to discuss things
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Re: What if Giannis chooses and Toronto on short list - Does this change Conversation? 

Post#242 » by Duffman100 » Wed Jun 11, 2025 4:37 pm

YogurtProducer wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:They just played you guys again. Stop falling for this stuff. Although I think Giannis and Bucks are making a mistake. Revisit in one year.

Entire thread is based on a hypothetical. There’s no fooling.

Off season RealGM might as well shut down if you don’t want people to discuss things


I also think a lot of people this time around were like "Sure, believe it when we see it".

Very few actually believed this was real. Just fun to talk about.
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Post#243 » by tsherkin » Wed Jun 11, 2025 5:50 pm

Duffman100 wrote:
YogurtProducer wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:They just played you guys again. Stop falling for this stuff. Although I think Giannis and Bucks are making a mistake. Revisit in one year.

Entire thread is based on a hypothetical. There’s no fooling.

Off season RealGM might as well shut down if you don’t want people to discuss things


I also think a lot of people this time around were like "Sure, believe it when we see it".

Very few actually believed this was real. Just fun to talk about.


Yeah, it's the offseason; we needed something.

Now it's time to move on, of course. Sounds like neither Giannis nor KD are gonna end up here (as expected), so we need to focus back on crappy Scottie Barnes workout videos ;)
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Re: What if Giannis chooses and Toronto on short list - Does this change Conversation? 

Post#244 » by Duffman100 » Wed Jun 11, 2025 6:18 pm

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Duffman100 wrote:
YogurtProducer wrote:Entire thread is based on a hypothetical. There’s no fooling.

Off season RealGM might as well shut down if you don’t want people to discuss things


I also think a lot of people this time around were like "Sure, believe it when we see it".

Very few actually believed this was real. Just fun to talk about.


Yeah, it's the offseason; we needed something.

Now it's time to move on, of course. Sounds like neither Giannis nor KD are gonna end up here (as expected), so we need to focus back on crappy Scottie Barnes workout videos ;)


Maybe he can shoot 40% from 3? 38%? 34%? Fine 30%...
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Post#245 » by tsherkin » Wed Jun 11, 2025 6:22 pm

Duffman100 wrote:Maybe he can shoot 40% from 3? 38%? 34%? Fine 30%...


He can do whatever tf he wants as long as he's taking like 12 FGA/g, you know what I mean? His defensive value will outpace his offensive weakness past a certain point. And you know what, if he doesn't shoot ATB, I firmly believe he can shoot 36% from 3, which would be something.
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Post#246 » by Scase » Wed Jun 11, 2025 7:05 pm

tsherkin wrote:
Duffman100 wrote:
YogurtProducer wrote:Entire thread is based on a hypothetical. There’s no fooling.

Off season RealGM might as well shut down if you don’t want people to discuss things


I also think a lot of people this time around were like "Sure, believe it when we see it".

Very few actually believed this was real. Just fun to talk about.


Yeah, it's the offseason; we needed something.

Now it's time to move on, of course. Sounds like neither Giannis nor KD are gonna end up here (as expected), so we need to focus back on crappy Scottie Barnes workout videos ;)

How dare you, have you SEEN how much muscle he's put on, gotta be like 35lbs!!!
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Post#247 » by tsherkin » Wed Jun 11, 2025 7:28 pm

Scase wrote:How dare you, have you SEEN how much muscle he's put on, gotta be like 35lbs!!!


Heh.

Jokes aside, strength is not his problem, so I literally couldn't care less about him lifting. Like some of us were discussing in the thread with that video, it would have been nice to see him working on any of his actual deficiencies, you know? That video may as well have been of him hydrating after a generic workout, because it was about as relevant to his game this upcoming season.
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Post#248 » by WuTang_CMB » Wed Jun 11, 2025 7:51 pm

Giannis Antetokounmpo has not requested a trade from the Milwaukee Bucks and may wait until deep into the offseason to fully decide whether he wants to remain with the franchise that drafted him in 2013.

"From what I'm told, his status will not be tied to the NBA draft," said Shams Charania. "It won't be tied to free agency. It's much more likely that his future plays out into July and into August, in terms of him seeing the landscape of not only the Bucks, seeing the landscape of the league, seeing what other teams do. I mean, listen, when you're a star of that caliber, the league moves how you want it to move. The league will move when you're ready to ask for a trade, or if you're ready to then say, 'I'm staying. I want to be back.'

"Of course, around the league, there is a level of skepticism because Giannis Antetokounmpo has been loyal. He's been there 12 years. His brand is all about loyalty right now. So there's a level of skepticism: does he really go through with it? There's a difference between being open-minded and, from what I'm told, exploring other options—actively exploring other options. There's a difference between doing that and asking for a trade. He's in the process of figuring out exactly what he wants to do."

For his part, Antetokounmpo has given hints he still wants to remain with the Bucks for another run to the Finals.

The Bucks have Antetokounmpo under contract through at least the 2026-27 season, as his new three-year extension will kick in with this coming season, with a player option for the 2027-28 season. Antetokounmpo is set to be on the book for a projected max salary of $54.1 million for next season.

"From my understanding, I think Jon Horst and Doc Rivers genuinely believe this team can compete in the Eastern Conference," added Charania.
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Re: What if Giannis chooses and Toronto on short list - Does this change Conversation? 

Post#249 » by Scase » Wed Jun 11, 2025 7:56 pm

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Scase wrote:How dare you, have you SEEN how much muscle he's put on, gotta be like 35lbs!!!


Heh.

Jokes aside, strength is not his problem, so I literally couldn't care less about him lifting. Like some of us were discussing in the thread with that video, it would have been nice to see him working on any of his actual deficiencies, you know? That video may as well have been of him hydrating after a generic workout, because it was about as relevant to his game this upcoming season.

Yeah I'm hoping it's just him being a social media dork to show people how he's grinding, and that in actuality he's going through dribbling drills, and learning how to set a **** screen for once lol
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Post#250 » by tsherkin » Wed Jun 11, 2025 8:03 pm

Scase wrote:Yeah I'm hoping it's just him being a social media dork to show people how he's grinding, and that in actuality he's going through dribbling drills, and learning how to set a **** screen for once lol


Yeah, I mean it's an isolated video. It doesn't mean anything, good OR bad. Right? He's just doing his thing.

I agree, I hope he's working on the stuff he really needs to work on. He does need to really pivot his mindset into more of a PF type of thing, I suspect.
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Post#251 » by MiamiSPX » Wed Jun 11, 2025 8:08 pm

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"From my understanding, I think Jon Horst and Doc Rivers genuinely believe this team can compete in the Eastern Conference," added Charania.


Kudos to them if they sell Giannis on this but their situation is one of the bleakest in the league IMO. You can't get blood from a stone, as they say. Maybe I am missing it, but I cannot see a single avenue by which they can improve that team to make it past the 1st round.
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Post#252 » by Scase » Wed Jun 11, 2025 9:37 pm

tsherkin wrote:
Scase wrote:Yeah I'm hoping it's just him being a social media dork to show people how he's grinding, and that in actuality he's going through dribbling drills, and learning how to set a **** screen for once lol


Yeah, I mean it's an isolated video. It doesn't mean anything, good OR bad. Right? He's just doing his thing.

I agree, I hope he's working on the stuff he really needs to work on. He does need to really pivot his mindset into more of a PF type of thing, I suspect.

Definitely happier to see that vs him lapping up mai tais on the beach :lol:
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Post#253 » by tsherkin » Wed Jun 11, 2025 10:04 pm

Scase wrote:
tsherkin wrote:
Scase wrote:Yeah I'm hoping it's just him being a social media dork to show people how he's grinding, and that in actuality he's going through dribbling drills, and learning how to set a **** screen for once lol


Yeah, I mean it's an isolated video. It doesn't mean anything, good OR bad. Right? He's just doing his thing.

I agree, I hope he's working on the stuff he really needs to work on. He does need to really pivot his mindset into more of a PF type of thing, I suspect.

Definitely happier to see that vs him lapping up mai tais on the beach :lol:


Heh, yeah, I suppose that's fair enough.
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Post#254 » by DreamTeam09 » Wed Jun 11, 2025 10:09 pm

lol lol now Barnes isn't a hard worker because you don't see the incremental advances yr over yr. Players usually plauteau at age 23 neway lol smh,
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Post#255 » by Scase » Wed Jun 11, 2025 10:25 pm

DreamTeam09 wrote:lol lol now Barnes isn't a hard worker because you don't see the incremental advances yr over yr. Players usually plauteau at age 23 neway lol smh,

Are you just sitting here typing up arguments that no one has made, or am I missing something?
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Post#256 » by HiJiNX » Thu Jun 12, 2025 3:48 am

Listen I’m a huge Barnes truther but I’m tired of the workout videos too. If that **** doesn’t show up in games who gives a **** y’know?? Can you beat your man off the dribble?? Can you consistently make a pull up jumper?
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Post#257 » by NotMyKawhi » Fri Jun 13, 2025 1:49 pm

Signing Thanasis and then trade for Giannis.


Giannis needs his bro w him. He's not the same w/o him. He'll demand to come to Toronto.
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Post#258 » by Tacoma » Fri Jun 13, 2025 3:50 pm

YogurtProducer wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:They just played you guys again. Stop falling for this stuff. Although I think Giannis and Bucks are making a mistake. Revisit in one year.

Entire thread is based on a hypothetical. There’s no fooling.

Off season RealGM might as well shut down if you don’t want people to discuss things


Yes, a hypothetical is valid if it's logically possible, even if it's not actually true in the real world. However, if it is based on an assumed truth that later becomes false, then there's no longer a reason for that hypothetical and the hypothetical is invalidated.

In this case, the OP assumed true that Giannis wanted out of MIL and hypothesized what if we are one of the finalists, would we still have a team after the trade that could compete. But since the assumption Giannis wanting out of MIL is now false, the reason for this hypothetical tumbles.

Without a reason this thread appears drifting to discuss other things for which there are already other threads. What is then the point?
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Post#259 » by WaltFrazier » Sun Jun 15, 2025 3:52 am

NotMyKawhi wrote:Signing Thanasis and then trade for Giannis.


Giannis needs his bro w him. He's not the same w/o him. He'll demand to come to Toronto.

Didn't he have another brother, with the 905? What happened to him?
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Post#260 » by WaltFrazier » Sun Jun 15, 2025 3:54 am

Tacoma wrote:
YogurtProducer wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:They just played you guys again. Stop falling for this stuff. Although I think Giannis and Bucks are making a mistake. Revisit in one year.

Entire thread is based on a hypothetical. There’s no fooling.

Off season RealGM might as well shut down if you don’t want people to discuss things


Yes, a hypothetical is valid if it's logically possible, even if it's not actually true in the real world. However, if it is based on an assumed truth that later becomes false, then there's no longer a reason for that hypothetical and the hypothetical is invalidated.

In this case, the OP assumed true that Giannis wanted out of MIL and hypothesized what if we are one of the finalists, would we still have a team after the trade that could compete. But since the assumption Giannis wanting out of MIL is now false, the reason for this hypothetical tumbles.

Without a reason this thread appears drifting to discuss other things for which there are already other threads. What is then the point?


And that rarely happens on this board. :lol:
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