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[Charania] The Knicks Request Permission To Speak To Chris Finch (MIN) and Ime Udoka (HOU)

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Re: [Charania] The Knicks Request Permission To Speak To Chris Finch (MIN) and Ime Udoka (HOU) 

Post#41 » by WaltFrazier » Sat Jun 14, 2025 3:09 am

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WaltFrazier wrote:All the comments along the lines of, embarassing, or, Knicks gonna Knick, are just plain stupid. They are doing due diligence. Every report on an existing HC is coming from the team involved, not a leak from the Knicks.

This guy, a Miami guy, has the right reasonable take:

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They are probably also contacting the agents of free agent coaches like Malone but no one is leaking that. Assistant Johnnie Bryant is a viable candidate too.

The timing so far is exactly like Masai and Nurse, fired a few days after elimination, set out on a long search and interview process. Masai maybe missed out on Udoka because he moved slowly. But how long did it take to hire Darko? Weeks right? I can't recall if he was even in place by summer league, certainly not by the draft. There's two differences. 1. Raps were looking for a coach to rebuild, Knicks are looking for a coach to improve a contender. 2. Knicks are in the media capital, and I've learned on the Knicks board, Knicks for clicks is a real thing. A coaching search takes weeks, especially this one with no competing vacancies. But the hot take media types can't come out every day and say, well Leon Rose knows what he's doing, let's just be patient. No, they have to stir the pot with takes like, oh what are they doing, same old Dolan, etc. But it's not the same old front office anymore.

Edit: my mistake the tweet above was a guy commenting on the media angle. This is the Miami guy, commenting that Knicks are going about things in a smart way:

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In fairness, they have the same overbearing, meddling and irrational owner in Dolan that they've always had during their 2 decades of futility, so they don't automatically get the benefit of the doubt regarding questionable decisions and/or their processes because they've had some recent success.


Fair, but it seems he's been pretty hands off since Rose took over. He's not that guy anymore
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Re: [Charania] The Knicks Request Permission To Speak To Chris Finch (MIN) and Ime Udoka (HOU) 

Post#42 » by Pointgod » Sat Jun 14, 2025 3:49 am

WaltFrazier wrote:
Raptors Realtor wrote:
WaltFrazier wrote:All the comments along the lines of, embarassing, or, Knicks gonna Knick, are just plain stupid. They are doing due diligence. Every report on an existing HC is coming from the team involved, not a leak from the Knicks.

This guy, a Miami guy, has the right reasonable take:

Read on Twitter


They are probably also contacting the agents of free agent coaches like Malone but no one is leaking that. Assistant Johnnie Bryant is a viable candidate too.

The timing so far is exactly like Masai and Nurse, fired a few days after elimination, set out on a long search and interview process. Masai maybe missed out on Udoka because he moved slowly. But how long did it take to hire Darko? Weeks right? I can't recall if he was even in place by summer league, certainly not by the draft. There's two differences. 1. Raps were looking for a coach to rebuild, Knicks are looking for a coach to improve a contender. 2. Knicks are in the media capital, and I've learned on the Knicks board, Knicks for clicks is a real thing. A coaching search takes weeks, especially this one with no competing vacancies. But the hot take media types can't come out every day and say, well Leon Rose knows what he's doing, let's just be patient. No, they have to stir the pot with takes like, oh what are they doing, same old Dolan, etc. But it's not the same old front office anymore.

Edit: my mistake the tweet above was a guy commenting on the media angle. This is the Miami guy, commenting that Knicks are going about things in a smart way:

Read on Twitter
/mediaviewer


In fairness, they have the same overbearing, meddling and irrational owner in Dolan that they've always had during their 2 decades of futility, so they don't automatically get the benefit of the doubt regarding questionable decisions and/or their processes because they've had some recent success.


Fair, but it seems he's been pretty hands off since Rose took over. He's not that guy anymore


Maybe he was hands off until now.
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Re: [Charania] The Knicks Request Permission To Speak To Chris Finch (MIN) and Ime Udoka (HOU) 

Post#43 » by Scase » Sat Jun 14, 2025 5:41 am

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Has any other org ever done this so blatantly or en batch? Look like a desperate boyfriend :lol:


The hilarious part is whoever they end up hiring will always know he was their 10th choice.

31st*

They will go at every team, get rebuffed, then hire some rando lol
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Re: [Charania] The Knicks Request Permission To Speak To Chris Finch (MIN) and Ime Udoka (HOU) 

Post#44 » by WaltFrazier » Sat Jun 14, 2025 8:31 pm

Pointgod wrote:
WaltFrazier wrote:
Raptors Realtor wrote:
In fairness, they have the same overbearing, meddling and irrational owner in Dolan that they've always had during their 2 decades of futility, so they don't automatically get the benefit of the doubt regarding questionable decisions and/or their processes because they've had some recent success.


Fair, but it seems he's been pretty hands off since Rose took over. He's not that guy anymore


Maybe he was hands off until now.


He's the one paying Thibs $30M to not coach so naturally he was involved in the firing decision.
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Re: [Charania] The Knicks Request Permission To Speak To Chris Finch (MIN) and Ime Udoka (HOU) 

Post#45 » by tsherkin » Sun Jun 15, 2025 12:43 pm

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Post#46 » by WuTang_CMB » Sun Jun 15, 2025 2:18 pm

joke

also - whatever happend to that lawsuit with us

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Post#47 » by navyblue » Sun Jun 15, 2025 2:32 pm

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also - whatever happend to that lawsuit with us

July 21, Adam silver is going to arbitrate the issue.
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/44072556/nba-hold-july-hearing-settle-raptors-knicks-dispute
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Re: [Charania] The Knicks Request Permission To Speak To Chris Finch (MIN) and Ime Udoka (HOU) 

Post#48 » by WaltFrazier » Sun Jun 15, 2025 9:35 pm

Marc Stein:

They clearly feel as though they can take a deliberate approach to their search for a successor to Thibodeau since New York has the league's only current coaching vacancy.

Yet it will be a struggle, to say the least, for the Knicks to ultimately convince the basketball public that they landed anything close to their first choice after requesting permission to speak to five employed coaches and getting rejected by all five teams involved: Dallas (Kidd), Chicago (Billy Donovan), Houston (Ime Udoka), Minnesota (Chris Finch) and Atlanta (Quin Snyder).

The Knicks appear to have moved on to pursuing coaches who are indeed available and, according to The Athletic's James L. Edwards III, will begin that process by interviewing Mike Brown and Taylor Jenkins, who were fired by Sacramento and Memphis, respectively, during the season.


And why should they care about convincing the basketball public about anything. Such a tempest in a teapot. They'll hire a coach, the offseason will move on, and none of this matters. All that matters is how next season goes under the new coach
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