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Re: 7th pick = Trade Down 

Post#101 » by dohboy_24 » Thu Apr 10, 2025 12:02 am

Indeed wrote:But why are teams want to trade up? Because we are the Lakers?


Nope.

Those other teams might want to trade up to select a player who probably won't be available when it's their turn to pick like Khaman Maluach, Derik Queen, Jeremiah Fears, Kas-Jak, Tre Johnson or someone like Noa Essengue who flies up the draft board.

Miami might covet a player like Kon Knueppel, Derik Queen or Jeremiah Fears over those available at #12 and #21 and want to trade up to pick him.

Atlanta might think that Jeremiah Fears is the next Tre Young or want to pair him with a tall guard/wing like Kas-Jak or Egor Denim. Otherwise, someone like Khaman Malauch or Derik Queen could help in the frontcourt alongside Zaccharie Risacher and Onyeka Okongwu.

Brooklyn may want to consolidate multiple first round picks into another top 10 lottery pick so they can draft two higher end prospects rather than a bunch of prospects at once or take a gamble on someone like Noa Essengue who might take longer to develop but have a higher return a few years down the road.

Orlando could use more depth in the frontcourt and would rather have their choice from among Khaman Maluach, Collin Murray-Boyles, Asa Newell, Noa Essengue, and Derik Queen than wait until they pick at #16 and #20 and have to choose from among the next tier of bigs like Danny Wolf, Rasheer Fleming, Joan Beringer, and Thomas Sorber.

Washington would jump at the chance to turn 3 picks (#40, #47, #52) from the back half of the second round and an end of the first round pick (#22) into another top 10 selection and the Jazz would be even happier to send one less second round pick (#44, #50) and a slightly better first rounder (#19) for the same opportunity.
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Re: 7th pick = Trade Down 

Post#102 » by Indeed » Thu Apr 10, 2025 12:30 am

dohboy_24 wrote:
Indeed wrote:But why are teams want to trade up? Because we are the Lakers?


Nope.

Those other teams might want to trade up to select a player who probably won't be available when it's their turn to pick like Khaman Maluach, Derik Queen, Jeremiah Fears, Kas-Jak, Tre Johnson or someone like Noa Essengue who flies up the draft board.

Miami might covet a player like Kon Knueppel, Derik Queen or Jeremiah Fears over those available at #12 and #21 and want to trade up to pick him.

Atlanta might think that Jeremiah Fears is the next Tre Young or want to pair him with a tall guard/wing like Kas-Jak or Egor Denim. Otherwise, someone like Khaman Malauch or Derik Queen could help in the frontcourt alongside Zaccharie Risacher and Onyeka Okongwu.

Brooklyn may want to consolidate multiple first round picks into another top 10 lottery pick so they can draft two higher end prospects rather than a bunch of prospects at once or take a gamble on someone like Noa Essengue who might take longer to develop but have a higher return a few years down the road.

Orlando could use more depth in the frontcourt and would rather have their choice from among Khaman Maluach, Collin Murray-Boyles, Asa Newell, Noa Essengue, and Derik Queen than wait until they pick at #16 and #20 and have to choose from among the next tier of bigs like Danny Wolf, Rasheer Fleming, Joan Beringer, and Thomas Sorber.

Washington would jump at the chance to turn 3 picks (#40, #47, #52) from the back half of the second round and an end of the first round pick (#22) into another top 10 selection and the Jazz would be even happier to send one less second round pick (#44, #50) and a slightly better first rounder (#19) for the same opportunity.


Nope.

The reason they trade up is that they see a tier or two above where they draft.
If it is a tier or two above, are we seriously want to trade down for someone a tier or two below (all-star trade down to a starter or a starter trade down for a bench player)?

There is not much reason we should trade down, period. We rather take an all-star over a starter, or a starter over bench player that we already have.

From history, the real reason teams trade their pick was due to salary. Meanwhile, we are likely above the tax, we are not as flexible as some other teams.
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Re: 7th pick = Trade Down 

Post#103 » by S.W.A.N » Thu Apr 10, 2025 1:33 am

dohboy_24 wrote:
Indeed wrote:But why are teams want to trade up? Because we are the Lakers?


Nope.

Those other teams might want to trade up to select a player who probably won't be available when it's their turn to pick like Khaman Maluach, Derik Queen, Jeremiah Fears, Kas-Jak, Tre Johnson or someone like Noa Essengue who flies up the draft board.

Miami might covet a player like Kon Knueppel, Derik Queen or Jeremiah Fears over those available at #12 and #21 and want to trade up to pick him.

Atlanta might think that Jeremiah Fears is the next Tre Young or want to pair him with a tall guard/wing like Kas-Jak or Egor Denim. Otherwise, someone like Khaman Malauch or Derik Queen could help in the frontcourt alongside Zaccharie Risacher and Onyeka Okongwu.

Brooklyn may want to consolidate multiple first round picks into another top 10 lottery pick so they can draft two higher end prospects rather than a bunch of prospects at once or take a gamble on someone like Noa Essengue who might take longer to develop but have a higher return a few years down the road.

Orlando could use more depth in the frontcourt and would rather have their choice from among Khaman Maluach, Collin Murray-Boyles, Asa Newell, Noa Essengue, and Derik Queen than wait until they pick at #16 and #20 and have to choose from among the next tier of bigs like Danny Wolf, Rasheer Fleming, Joan Beringer, and Thomas Sorber.

Washington would jump at the chance to turn 3 picks (#40, #47, #52) from the back half of the second round and an end of the first round pick (#22) into another top 10 selection and the Jazz would be even happier to send one less second round pick (#44, #50) and a slightly better first rounder (#19) for the same opportunity.



Miami is a perfect trade down partner
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Re: 7th pick = Trade Down 

Post#104 » by Rainman66 » Thu Apr 10, 2025 4:30 am

Spurs win bring on the 7th or better pick!!
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Re: 7th pick = Trade Down 

Post#105 » by AkelaLoneWolf » Thu Apr 10, 2025 4:30 am

locked in 7th with spurs win!
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Re: 7th pick = Trade Down 

Post#106 » by Psubs » Thu Apr 10, 2025 1:48 pm

Toronto trades: #7 and Gradey Dick
SA trades: #8, #15 and Blake Wesley (filler)

SA drafts Maluach to pair with Wemby. :jawdrop:

Toronto trades: #15, #39, Ochai Agbaji and Blake Wesley
Minnesota trades: #17, #31 and Donte DiVincenzo

Toronto trades: IQ, RJ Barrett and #31
Phoenix trades: Kevin Durant, Cody Martin and #29

Phoenix drafts and stashes Bogoljub Marković for 1 year.

#7 Jeremiah Fears
#17 Rasheer Fleming
#29 Alex Condon/Tomislav Ivisic

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Re: 7th pick = Trade Down 

Post#107 » by Raptorfan2012 » Thu Apr 10, 2025 2:03 pm

Trading down is difficult because you are assuming the player we want a few spots down will be available by that time. Need to remember the big boards we see online can vary greatly against the teams' actual big boards. We will never know what other teams' big boards are.
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Re: 7th pick = Trade Down 

Post#108 » by Psubs » Thu Apr 10, 2025 2:22 pm

Raptorfan2012 wrote:Trading down is difficult because you are assuming the player we want a few spots down will be available by that time. Need to remember the big boards we see online can vary greatly against the teams' actual big boards. We will never know what other teams' big boards are.


Since Chicago has Vucevic, Collins and Jalen Smith all on expirings next year, maybe they want to trade up to nab Queen?

#12 and Matas Buzelis
#7 and Ochai Agbaji

We drop that low if the Raptors want CMB or Fleming.
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Re: 7th pick = Trade Down 

Post#109 » by rim_killa » Thu Jun 19, 2025 11:29 pm

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Re: [emoji2[emoji2391]9[emoji2[emoji2391]9[emoji2391]]]th pick = Trade Down 

Post#110 » by Axe Dragon » Fri Jun 20, 2025 4:02 am

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SA trades: #[emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]]]]], #[emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]]]] and Blake Wesley (filler)

SA drafts Maluach to pair with Wemby. :jawdrop:

Toronto trades: #[emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]]]], #[emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]]]]]], Ochai Agbaji and Blake Wesley
Minnesota trades: #[emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]]]]], #[emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]] and Donte DiVincenzo

Toronto trades: IQ, RJ Barrett and #[emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]]
Phoenix trades: Kevin Durant, Cody Martin and #[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]]]]]]

Phoenix drafts and stashes Bogoljub Marković for [emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]] year.

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PG Shead - Fears/Jakobe
SG Ingram - Jakobe - Lawson/Rhoden
SF KD - DiVincenzo - Battle
PF Barnes - Mobgo - Fleming
C Poeltl - #[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]]]]]] - Chomche

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