2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9

[Tha Cynic]

Beringer will be there in the early 20s....He is only a trade back option....Think Masai has other bigs ahead of him on the big board anyways.

This is why I’m intrigued by a team like Portland potentially being interested in RJ. If we can get another pick in the lottery to early 20s we can add some serious talent to our already rejuvenated bench.

[Potential]

I'm trying to think of the players who will be stars that will be picked past 20 and the big names in the top 10 that will turn out to be scrubs. What do you think?

[Asif16]

Of all the names being mentioned and connected to the raps, Sorber was the only player I didn't like.

Im obviously going off YouTube highlight tapes, but Sorber doesn't look like anything special. I did like Wolf, however, there's a Jokic level of smoothness in his game. Seems high IQ

[WuTang_OG]

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Hansen Yang is ripped now. Validates the eye test that he's fitter than last draft.

I think that Yang can be Wolf in Clingan's clothing.

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[RoteSchroder]

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idk man, he simply pops on tape just like mobley did. can't teach that sort of fluidity at his size. his measureables only enhance his case.

might not be ready for a while but you take the potential and let the developmental staff do its thing. adding a later pick would ease things too. this seems like the smartest thing to do instead of sticking at 9.

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I like him reminds me of Jarrett Allen.

Wouldn't mind trading down and nabbing two C's. One for immediate production and Beringer for development while Poeltl ages out. Trade Chomche to some other fools who like his potential (likely has no value).

So what happens if Barnes & BI looks like a dynamic duo to build with. Where does CMB slot in? We move BI to the 2?

I don't see how that matters. I don't foresee CMB or any player drafted this year being an option for the starting line-up.

We need frontcourt depth, so if CMB can put up solid minutes playing between the 4/5 position behind SB and JP, we'll be a better team.

People keep saying the fit is terrible with CMB, but it's better than with any other lottery big. Sorber, Queen aren't outside threats, and Khaman is only theoretical based on ft%. None of those guys can play with Poeltl, while CMB can play the 4 next to Poeltl or play the 5/4 next to Scottie's 4/5. No big exists next to Scottie and Poeltl, and our starting lineup is set barring a trade.
He provides rebounding and rim protection with his bbiq, quickness, and strength so he's versatile and not a tweener.

I wouldn't give CMB any real minutes at C..unless the other team decides to play with no C as well. He's 6.6'5 without shoes.

It should be the same plan as with Mogbo, develop him to be an SF/PF. Improve his shot. I see him ending up as a bully ball SF/PF without great verticality. Hard to say if his shooting will develop to be better than anything outside of catch and shoot. Kind of like a stronger/longer RJ, but with defense.

[CazOnReal]

who is this coachroache guy, wu?

The fact you're asking this after posting them doing this wink wink nudge nonsense should tell you he has the same credibility as Cris Davis.

They don't have sources.

[traps#10]

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Poeltl and Booker would look good together

[traps#10]

Of all the names being mentioned and connected to the raps, Sorber was the only player I didn't like.

Im obviously going off YouTube highlight tapes, but Sorber doesn't look like anything special. I did like Wolf, however, there's a Jokic level of smoothness in his game. Seems high IQ

Yeah same here, Sorber seems like an old school PF big like Antonio Davis type with Wolf looks like a skilled big like a Jokic, Kevin Love type

[TimeForChange]

who is this coachroache guy, wu?

The fact you're asking this after posting them doing this wink wink nudge nonsense should tell you he has the same credibility as Cris Davis.

They don't have sources.

This is a real person not AI.

Why are you always so angry?

[CazOnReal]

who is this coachroache guy, wu?

The fact you're asking this after posting them doing this wink wink nudge nonsense should tell you he has the same credibility as Cris Davis.

They don't have sources.

This is a real person not AI.

Why are you always so angry?

I'm living in 2025.

[Yeezus_]

This board will have an unnecessary meltdown if we pass on Maluach

[Kingsway_fan]

This board will have an unnecessary meltdown if we pass on Maluach

Nah, they won't. He'll be gone by then.

[Dalek]

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9. Toronto, Asa Newell

Newell’s range is trending toward the lottery, according to sources around the league. It’s because of his immense versatility on defense as a 6-foot-9 rim protector who can also comfortably switch screens. He has springs in his legs, regularly slamming lobs and swatting shots. And if he ever develops his jumper, he has a chance to exceed all expectations.

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Me and KOC on the Raptor's reNewell at 9. I am not sure that is a good thing but KOC mostly can't be trusted with French prospects.

I have been high on Newell since the start of the draft cycle when he played on USA b-ball last summer. He is a high energy Noah Clowney type with more potential.

[Dalek]

Why would any team take kon over Tre?

You look at how physical the playoffs is you just have to have role players who are strong enough to take the toll. Kon is 30 lbs heavier than Tre which is a huge difference. Tre is about 190 lbs and he doesn't play big either.

I also put Kon higher because I know he can be effective in his role and is a willing passer making the correct play. Tre might want to be combo guard and I just don't believe in his playmaking instincts because he is shoot first/second/third mentality.

The guy that just won finals mvp came into the league at 180 and still looks like a stick now. Strength is not just about weight and Tre has plenty of time to train to nba standards

Do you need him to be a passer? Besides weight he's not undersized to play on the wing, you can play a real PG next to him

Johnson to me is a good shooter but he doesn't play in the paint or create for others so you have a scorer who doesn't defend. That to me is an Anfernee Simons type which is empty calories.

Kon for me has some toughness and elite shooting and showed he could even run the offense when Coop went down. Just a better complimentary player to me.

[ShawnTO]

Toronto starts at 40:44. Vecenie thinks we get Maluach and then suggests trading down with Chicago or Atlanta for #13, #22, and a 2nd.

Assuming Atlanta,

with #13 we draft Joan Beringer (Vecenie has him right next to Maluach on his board),
with #22 we draft Will Riley (although there's a lot of different ways we could go with this one).

What do you think of that idea? I have a hard time believing Masai would let Maluach go, but there's been rumblings of Toronto wanting to trade down and maybe they do like somebody better in that #12-13 range.

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Here's their top 15:

1. DAL: Cooper
2. SA: Harper
3. CHA: Edgecombe (PHI trades down to #4 with CHA)
4. PHI: Johnson
5. UTA: Fears
6. WAS: Bailey
7. NO: Knueppel
8: BKN: Jakucionius
9: ATL: Maluach (TOR trades down for #13, #22, future 2nd)
10. PHX: Murray-Boyles
11. POR: Bryant
12. CHI: Queen
13. TOR: Beringer
14. SA: Coward
15. OKC: Sorber

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I really hope he's still on the board...

[Yallbecrazy]

I wouldn't give CMB any real minutes at C..unless the other team decides to play with no C as well. He's 6.6'5 without shoes.

It should be the same plan as with Mogbo, develop him to be an SF/PF. Improve his shot. I see him ending up as a bully ball SF/PF without great verticality. Hard to say if his shooting will develop to be better than anything outside of catch and shoot. Kind of like a stronger/longer RJ, but with defense.

Draymond is 6'5.5, Chuck Hayes was listed at 6'6 and probably shorter. Oliver Miller was listed at 6'8 so probably the same height.

He's a legit rebounder and is the best defensive big man in the draft and super strong. He can move around to protect the rim or guard the other team's big and allow Scottie to fly around and use his roaming instincts to protect the paint. Johni Broome and Asa Newell couldn't score on him. If Jokic gets deep post position he'll score, but Jokic will score on the entire league with deep post position and CMB's stronger and quicker than the other centres in the draft so will be better at preventing the opposing big from getting deep position.
The whole argument around his height is weird when he's shown he can defend at a much higher level on the interior than other guys who are taller and project as C's.

Raps old defensive system under Nurse often had Lowry or FVV protecting the rim on switches and they did well enough as they would meet the opposing players' outside the restricted area and use their strength and quick hands to deter drives or bigger guys from shooting over them.

[UnbelievablyRAW]

Of all the names being mentioned and connected to the raps, Sorber was the only player I didn't like.

Im obviously going off YouTube highlight tapes, but Sorber doesn't look like anything special. I did like Wolf, however, there's a Jokic level of smoothness in his game. Seems high IQ

Yeah same here, Sorber seems like an old school PF big like Antonio Davis type with Wolf looks like a skilled big like a Jokic, Kevin Love type

Sorber is bigger than Jarrett Allen who has comfortably been a NBA C. For reference Sorber is 6’10 with a 7’6 wingspan and weighs 263lbs coming out of college. Allen is 6’9 with a 7’5.25 wingspan and weighs 243lbs

[Yallbecrazy]

Of all the names being mentioned and connected to the raps, Sorber was the only player I didn't like.

Im obviously going off YouTube highlight tapes, but Sorber doesn't look like anything special. I did like Wolf, however, there's a Jokic level of smoothness in his game. Seems high IQ

Yeah same here, Sorber seems like an old school PF big like Antonio Davis type with Wolf looks like a skilled big like a Jokic, Kevin Love type

Sorber is bigger than Jarrett Allen who has comfortably been a NBA C. For reference Sorber is 6’10 with a 7’6 wingspan and weighs 263lbs coming out of college. Allen is 6’9 with a 7’5.25 wingspan and weighs 243lbs

Allen was also significantly more mobile with a much higher vertical and 3-5 extra inches of hair.