Does this team have a concerning depth problem? Darko concerns?

[Psubs]

Ochai is not better than Walter.

Walter has done nothing yet to suggest he is better than Ochai.

Long term you hope so, but Ochai was much better than him last year.

Yeah you hope Walter's 3pt shooting stays how it ended last year to make him a solid 3+D guy.

Walter has to prove he can do it over the full season. Ochai has to prove last season is the norm and not a 1 off.

Walter was a rookie that improved like every month. Ochai has been in the league for 3 years.

[TimeForChange]

Darko is fine for this team. This team is still 1 or 2 years away from being a playoff team.

They definitely need to make one or two moves before the end of the season.

At minimum, Ochai will be traded, as they can't afford to sign him. At best RJ is moved. I don't think RJ has much of a market, so unless a team like Sacramento or New Orleans comes calling, they would have to attach a pick to move him.

[Jerry Lucas]

Darko is fine for this team. This team is still 1 or 2 years away from being a playoff team.

They definitely need to make one or two moves before the end of the season.

At minimum, Ochai will be traded, as they can't afford to sign him. At best RJ is moved. I don't think RJ has much of a market, so unless a team like Sacramento or New Orleans comes calling, they would have to attach a pick to move him.

I know it's Hack Weinbach but I liked this 3-team RJ trade idea:

Read on Twitter

I also think it's possible Scott Perry would want RJ back for himself on the Kings, and he seems motivated to move Monk for whatever reason. The rumours about how little the Kings are willing to trade him for suggest a wildly low internal valuation on the player/asset.

[Troubadour]

The concern I have is the defensive identity carrying over to the starting lineup. The defence that has been effective against bad opposition at the end of last season and summer league was executed by 2nd and 3rd string players.

I don't see Quickley, Ingram, and Barrett executing that style. Scottie can pick full-court, but I don't actually think it helps the team when he does it. I can't think of a team that had its identity set by the second unit.

[TimeForChange]

Darko is fine for this team. This team is still 1 or 2 years away from being a playoff team.

They definitely need to make one or two moves before the end of the season.

At minimum, Ochai will be traded, as they can't afford to sign him. At best RJ is moved. I don't think RJ has much of a market, so unless a team like Sacramento or New Orleans comes calling, they would have to attach a pick to move him.

I know it's Hack Weinbach but I liked this 3-team RJ trade idea:

Read on Twitter

I also think it's possible Scott Perry would want RJ back for himself on the Kings, and he seems motivated to move Monk for whatever reason. The rumours about how little the Kings are willing to trade him for suggest a wildly low internal valuation on the player/asset.

Milwaukee is not giving up a first and a pick swap for Barrett.

[YogurtProducer]

Ochai is not better than Walter.

Walter has done nothing yet to suggest he is better than Ochai.

Long term you hope so, but Ochai was much better than him last year.

Yeah you hope Walter's 3pt shooting stays how it ended last year to make him a solid 3+D guy.

Walter has to prove he can do it over the full season. Ochai has to prove last season is the norm and not a 1 off.

I mean Ochai had a very good rookie year to, better than Jakobe did tbh.

I like JKW a lot, but Ochai is certainly a more surefire NBA player than JKW, even tho JKW has higher upside IMO

[TimeForChange]

The concern I have is the defensive identity carrying over to the starting lineup. The defence that has been effective against bad opposition at the end of last season and summer league was executed by 2nd and 3rd string players.

I don't see Quickley, Ingram, and Barrett executing that style. Scottie can pick full-court, but I don't actually think it helps the team when he does it. I can't think of a team that had its identity set by the second unit.

I would love RJ to get moved, IQ to start at the 2 and the Raps to get a PG.

Don't see it happening until next year.

[YogurtProducer]

The concern I have is the defensive identity carrying over to the starting lineup. The defence that has been effective against bad opposition at the end of last season and summer league was executed by 2nd and 3rd string players.

I don't see Quickley, Ingram, and Barrett executing that style. Scottie can pick full-court, but I don't actually think it helps the team when he does it. I can't think of a team that had its identity set by the second unit.

The defensive identity is great and all - but you need to score to win in this league.

I actually love that we have a 2nd unit that can come in and just defend the **** out of teams. It will definitely give us big boosts in games when we come out flat if we can throw a bunch of energy at teams with our bench units.

Not worried about IQ - he will be fine defensively. And to me, making RJ a 6th man who still gets 30mpg is the best way to ensure we have adequate offense/defense balance between the SL and bench.

[binjumper]

Darko is fine for this team. This team is still 1 or 2 years away from being a playoff team.

They definitely need to make one or two moves before the end of the season.

At minimum, Ochai will be traded, as they can't afford to sign him. At best RJ is moved. I don't think RJ has much of a market, so unless a team like Sacramento or New Orleans comes calling, they would have to attach a pick to move him.

I know it's Hack Weinbach but I liked this 3-team RJ trade idea:

Read on Twitter

I also think it's possible Scott Perry would want RJ back for himself on the Kings, and he seems motivated to move Monk for whatever reason. The rumours about how little the Kings are willing to trade him for suggest a wildly low internal valuation on the player/asset.

Milwaukee is not giving up a first and a pick swap for Barrett.

Funny you say that when the GM has admitted he ran out of moves.

[Psubs]

Walter has done nothing yet to suggest he is better than Ochai.

Long term you hope so, but Ochai was much better than him last year.

Yeah you hope Walter's 3pt shooting stays how it ended last year to make him a solid 3+D guy.

Walter has to prove he can do it over the full season. Ochai has to prove last season is the norm and not a 1 off.

I mean Ochai had a very good rookie year to, better than Jakobe did tbh.

I like JKW a lot, but Ochai is certainly a more surefire NBA player than JKW, even tho JKW has higher upside IMO

I would say that Ochai has Norman Powell level player potential whereas JKW still has SGA potential. SGA got 5 more mins per game as a rookie because of lack of depth on OKC and was able to play 34 mpg as a sophomore. JKW will likely still be under 28mpg as a sophomore.

[YogurtProducer]

Yeah you hope Walter's 3pt shooting stays how it ended last year to make him a solid 3+D guy.

Walter has to prove he can do it over the full season. Ochai has to prove last season is the norm and not a 1 off.

I mean Ochai had a very good rookie year to, better than Jakobe did tbh.

I like JKW a lot, but Ochai is certainly a more surefire NBA player than JKW, even tho JKW has higher upside IMO

I would say that Ochai has Norman Powell level player potential whereas JKW still has SGA potential. SGA got 5 more mins per game as a rookie because of lack of depth on OKC and was able to play 34 mpg as a sophomore. JKW will likely still be under 28mpg as a sophomore.

SGA potential is wild

[Psubs]

Darko is fine for this team. This team is still 1 or 2 years away from being a playoff team.

They definitely need to make one or two moves before the end of the season.

At minimum, Ochai will be traded, as they can't afford to sign him. At best RJ is moved. I don't think RJ has much of a market, so unless a team like Sacramento or New Orleans comes calling, they would have to attach a pick to move him.

I know it's Hack Weinbach but I liked this 3-team RJ trade idea:

Read on Twitter

I also think it's possible Scott Perry would want RJ back for himself on the Kings, and he seems motivated to move Monk for whatever reason. The rumours about how little the Kings are willing to trade him for suggest a wildly low internal valuation on the player/asset.

Milwaukee is not giving up a first and a pick swap for Barrett.

A three-team trade idea between the Bucks, Raptors, and Kings:

• Bucks
RJ Barrett

• Raptors
Malik Monk
2028 first-round pick swap (via MIL)

• Kings
Kyle Kuzma
Andre Jackson Jr.
2031 first-round pick (via MIL)

• Bucks
RJ Barrett

• Raptors
Malik Monk

• Kings
Kyle Kuzma
Andre Jackson Jr.
2028 first-round pick swap (via MIL)

I think the money savings would be enough to do this trade. Optics would be terrible but would free up space for a consolidating trade during the season where we would take back a bit more salary under the tax.

[Tripod]

I mean Ochai had a very good rookie year to, better than Jakobe did tbh.

I like JKW a lot, but Ochai is certainly a more surefire NBA player than JKW, even tho JKW has higher upside IMO

I would say that Ochai has Norman Powell level player potential whereas JKW still has SGA potential. SGA got 5 more mins per game as a rookie because of lack of depth on OKC and was able to play 34 mpg as a sophomore. JKW will likely still be under 28mpg as a sophomore.

SGA potential is wild

Yeah...it has nothing to do with minutes. Let JKW become better than Ochai or RJ first before setting unrealistic expectations on the kid.

As a reminder, RJ was drafted 3rd and is a top producing guy from that draft. Ochai was taken 14th and is around #14 in a redraft. JKW was #17.

[Jerry Lucas]

Darko is fine for this team. This team is still 1 or 2 years away from being a playoff team.

They definitely need to make one or two moves before the end of the season.

At minimum, Ochai will be traded, as they can't afford to sign him. At best RJ is moved. I don't think RJ has much of a market, so unless a team like Sacramento or New Orleans comes calling, they would have to attach a pick to move him.

I know it's Hack Weinbach but I liked this 3-team RJ trade idea:

Read on Twitter

I also think it's possible Scott Perry would want RJ back for himself on the Kings, and he seems motivated to move Monk for whatever reason. The rumours about how little the Kings are willing to trade him for suggest a wildly low internal valuation on the player/asset.

Milwaukee is not giving up a first and a pick swap for Barrett.

I agree, I don't see why Milwaukee pay that for RJ's contract just because Kuzma's contract is worse. His reasoning for the high price the Bucks are paying is more so getting off Kuzma's contract.

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This idea might be more realistic if the Kings got RJ and DeMar went to the Bucks instead.

[Psubs]

I mean Ochai had a very good rookie year to, better than Jakobe did tbh.

I like JKW a lot, but Ochai is certainly a more surefire NBA player than JKW, even tho JKW has higher upside IMO

I would say that Ochai has Norman Powell level player potential whereas JKW still has SGA potential. SGA got 5 more mins per game as a rookie because of lack of depth on OKC and was able to play 34 mpg as a sophomore. JKW will likely still be under 28mpg as a sophomore.

SGA potential is wild

But why not? Pre-College Walter was a potential top 5 pick, higher than SGA. Similar athleticism, similar defensive ability.

[Jerry Lucas]

I think the money savings would be enough to do this trade. Optics would be terrible but would free up space for a consolidating trade during the season where we would take back a bit more salary under the tax.

The optics definitely would not be terrible if the Raptors took advantage of Scott Perry and turned RJ's contract into Malik Monk.

[JShuttlesworth]

Yeah you hope Walter's 3pt shooting stays how it ended last year to make him a solid 3+D guy.

Walter has to prove he can do it over the full season. Ochai has to prove last season is the norm and not a 1 off.

I mean Ochai had a very good rookie year to, better than Jakobe did tbh.

I like JKW a lot, but Ochai is certainly a more surefire NBA player than JKW, even tho JKW has higher upside IMO

I would say that Ochai has Norman Powell level player potential whereas JKW still has SGA potential. SGA got 5 more mins per game as a rookie because of lack of depth on OKC and was able to play 34 mpg as a sophomore. JKW will likely still be under 28mpg as a sophomore.

Psubs brother, this is crazy

[YogurtProducer]

I would say that Ochai has Norman Powell level player potential whereas JKW still has SGA potential. SGA got 5 more mins per game as a rookie because of lack of depth on OKC and was able to play 34 mpg as a sophomore. JKW will likely still be under 28mpg as a sophomore.

SGA potential is wild

But why not? Pre-College Walter was a potential top 5 pick, higher than SGA. Similar athleticism, similar defensive ability.

Because if you say JKW has SGA potential so do 50 other NBA prospects.

Sure, COULD Jakobe become an MVP candidate? Maybe. But it’s like a 1/1000 chance

[DreamTeam09]

Ochai in his entire life will never hit a behind back into a side step 3 so no, he doesn't have Norman Powell potential, definitely not offensively

[canada_dry]

I for sure have darko concerns.

Willing to definitely give him a chance and the benefit of the doubt...i just don't know if he's the right coach for us if/when we're really trying to win games.

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