GT: Summer League Semi-Finals: 1st seed TOR (4-0) vs 4th seed SAC (4-0) - Sat July 19 @ 4pm - TSN

[WuTang_CMB]

Looks like Raps werent covered via the team during SL
results from MLSE layoffs

What happened?

in the past they would do a lot of team interviews for coaches and players. none were done this year.

[manjusaka]

I didn't mean to and 1 this. Comche doesn't suck. He is offensively challenged and goes up soft. He's not an NBA big man yet. And maybe will never be. He's showed promise defensively nonetheless.

Yeah. This was Chomches only poor showing at Summer League, but he wasn't the only one. Other than Shead, most of the players had an off game. I don't know if it was because they were missing their veteran leader (AJ) or what, but the team didn't look the same from the jump. They didn't do the things that earned them a 4-0 record..

Overall, I gave Chomche's development an "A" over the past year. The kid's growth has been very impressive. Let's not forget, he was 18 years old this time last year, coming from a tiny village in Africa.

Still only 19 years old for another 6 months.

It just felt like a regular season Raptor's game. Refs hit key players with a bunch of very weak foul calls early in the first and that threw us off. Plus our shooting sucked for all of the first half. But the BS foulapalooza to start the game was what lost it for us.

It wasn’t start with shooting. The whole offence sux. They tried to run push the tempo like the previous games but it end up rushing everything. We were allowed to be physical and aggressive on defensive end in the previous games but not in this one.

Chomche needs to get stronger physically. I still think he will be in big squad someday. He still needs a season at least in the 905.

I like what Ja’kobe is trying to attack on the offence but he will need some moves to get a clean look in the midrange. We had witnessed a real raw DDR to evolve into a midrange artist. It is not an easy task, let see how it goes.

I dream about Martin being at least become a second ball handler. So far he is an undersized off the ball 2 guard.

[ATLTimekeeper]

It was personal and financial. They cleaned house. Shanahan, Manning and Masai. Ownership wanted to have their own guys in. Similar to what they did with the Jays.

I think it was more financial than personal, but the only way that can be proven fully correct is if they end up promoting Bobby to President and Tolzman to GM (fire the existing president with a 15M yearly salary and just promote his cheaper former underlings instead of replacing him with an outside hire).

The fact that Pelley repeated that Rogers wanted a "businessman" for the position was interesting. First of all, the term is sexist as hell, and suggestive of preferring white candidates. Not a very woke thing to say.

Secondly, why the F do they need a "businessman" to be president of basketball operations? Pelley said the person wasn't going to be responsible for ticket prices or marketing? Does a player agent qualify? I'm just hoping they like Bobby cuz he's a numbers guy, and business is about numbers.

Actually "business" isn't really about numbers - it should primarily be about encouraging creativity within the organization in product design and marketing. But bean counters can't stand that, and are always trying to kill the goose that laid the golden eggs.

"Obviously, whoever comes into that position has massive shoes to fill. It will need to be a prominent, successful business leader." This was the original statement. Not sure if he used the word 'businessman' after that, but I don't think it's much of anything.

I don't know if Ed Rogers prefers white candidates, but he did try and replace Paul Beeston with Kenny Williams as president of the Blue Jays.

[OakleyDokely]

I doubt Ed could name more than 3 active Raptors and Pelley probably couldn't name much more than that. Pelley is a puckhead. Prepare to be underwhelmed.

[WuTang_CMB]

I doubt Ed could name more than 3 active Raptors and Pelley probably couldn't name much more than that. Pelley is a puckhead. Prepare to be underwhelmed.

On a side note if we are talking the business of the Raptors, if they were smart, they would market the Raptors just as they do with the Blue Jays.

Even during our championship run, the Raptors never got the high end production or publicity that they deserved / hit their potential

[DG88]

Looks like Raps werent covered via the team during SL
results from MLSE layoffs

What happened?

in the past they would do a lot of team interviews for coaches and players. none were done this year.

That was done on purpose. Can't remember where I read it either Wolstat or Lewenberg but it came from the top that team staff outside of the head coach or prominent players were not allowed to speak to the media during SL. It's why you saw Scottie or Darko be the only persons to even speak. It's due to the Masai firing and the ongoing replacement for him.

[djsunyc]

I doubt Ed could name more than 3 active Raptors and Pelley probably couldn't name much more than that. Pelley is a puckhead. Prepare to be underwhelmed.

On a side note if we are talking the business of the Raptors, if they were smart, they would market the Raptors just as they do with the Blue Jays.

Even during our championship run, the Raptors never got the high end production or publicity that they deserved / hit their potential

i dont know if they want to spend on raptors when the season overlaps with the leafs. jays have no competition

[WuTang_CMB]

What happened?

in the past they would do a lot of team interviews for coaches and players. none were done this year.

That was done on purpose. Can't remember where I read it either Wolstat or Lewenberg but it came from the top that team staff outside of the head coach or prominent players were not allowed to speak to the media during SL. It's why you saw Scottie or Darko be the only persons to even speak. It's due to the Masai firing and the ongoing replacement for him.

Don't think that's accurate. Darko and players spoke to Will Lou and was asked about Masai

Savannah got let go she was usually doing those raptor today segments for SL

[WuTang_CMB]

I doubt Ed could name more than 3 active Raptors and Pelley probably couldn't name much more than that. Pelley is a puckhead. Prepare to be underwhelmed.

On a side note if we are talking the business of the Raptors, if they were smart, they would market the Raptors just as they do with the Blue Jays.

Even during our championship run, the Raptors never got the high end production or publicity that they deserved / hit their potential

i dont know if they want to spend on raptors when the season overlaps with the leafs. jays have no competition

but they own the market lol

expanding raps coverage is smart business. Leafs will always be there

[tecumseh18]

I think it was more financial than personal, but the only way that can be proven fully correct is if they end up promoting Bobby to President and Tolzman to GM (fire the existing president with a 15M yearly salary and just promote his cheaper former underlings instead of replacing him with an outside hire).

The fact that Pelley repeated that Rogers wanted a "businessman" for the position was interesting. First of all, the term is sexist as hell, and suggestive of preferring white candidates. Not a very woke thing to say.

Secondly, why the F do they need a "businessman" to be president of basketball operations? Pelley said the person wasn't going to be responsible for ticket prices or marketing? Does a player agent qualify? I'm just hoping they like Bobby cuz he's a numbers guy, and business is about numbers.

Actually "business" isn't really about numbers - it should primarily be about encouraging creativity within the organization in product design and marketing. But bean counters can't stand that, and are always trying to kill the goose that laid the golden eggs.

"Obviously, whoever comes into that position has massive shoes to fill. It will need to be a prominent, successful business leader." This was the original statement. Not sure if he used the word 'businessman' after that, but I don't think it's much of anything.

I don't know if Ed Rogers prefers white candidates, but he did try and replace Paul Beeston with Kenny Williams as president of the Blue Jays.

Yeah, fair enough. The concept came up a couple of times during the presser. I thought at one point toward the end Pelley said "businessman", but I'm too lazy to go back and check. In any case, WTF is a "business leader" in the context of a President of Basketball Ops. It doesn't sound like Kenny Williams.

[oldncreaky]

While I agree with most of it, I still wished they prioritized roster construction to an extent. If we were still rebuilding then its fine but when youre a tax team, there's a reason why everyone around the league is clowning on us.

I still expect us to be better than what most believe we will next year. However, that can change with 1 injury to Poeltl where we continue to being one of the laughing stocks of the nba.

We are gonna get clowned regardless lol. Even in 2019 no one considered us legitimate contenders. That’s just the way it is. Fact is us being a tax team at this time really doesn’t matter and I’m not sure how it reflects on our team. Winning will solve everything and make a lot of these experts sound stupid.

Why the **** do you guys care if they are in the tax. What moral obligation do the fans have to be corncerned if their team is spending money. Raptors fans are obsessed I swear. They clearly are very happy with spending this money. They wanna get back to being a yearly playoff team because the amount of money that generates the Rogers monopoly is worth WAY more than the money they will be spending in the luxary tax.

The only real downside for fans of the team being $1M - $2M into the luxury tax is that it almost guarantees a trade at the deadline to duck the tax, and those trades almost invariably are losers from a talent perspective.

The most recent example: Trading Goran Dragic for Thad Young and a stiff, while moving down 13 slots in the draft, was motivated by the roughly $4M difference in salary (which allowed the Raptors to duck the tax).

Looking forward to this coming TDL, the Raptors have 8 players making enough above the minimum that they could trade them and save money: the 5 starters, plus Ochai, Gradey and CMB. More than likely, one of them is going to be shipped out for a player who is cheaper and worse; hopefully the Raptors don't have to also burn yet more draft capital to do it.

[ATLTimekeeper]

The fact that Pelley repeated that Rogers wanted a "businessman" for the position was interesting. First of all, the term is sexist as hell, and suggestive of preferring white candidates. Not a very woke thing to say.

Secondly, why the F do they need a "businessman" to be president of basketball operations? Pelley said the person wasn't going to be responsible for ticket prices or marketing? Does a player agent qualify? I'm just hoping they like Bobby cuz he's a numbers guy, and business is about numbers.

Actually "business" isn't really about numbers - it should primarily be about encouraging creativity within the organization in product design and marketing. But bean counters can't stand that, and are always trying to kill the goose that laid the golden eggs.

"Obviously, whoever comes into that position has massive shoes to fill. It will need to be a prominent, successful business leader." This was the original statement. Not sure if he used the word 'businessman' after that, but I don't think it's much of anything.

I don't know if Ed Rogers prefers white candidates, but he did try and replace Paul Beeston with Kenny Williams as president of the Blue Jays.

Yeah, fair enough. The concept came up a couple of times during the presser. I thought at one point toward the end Pelley said "businessman", but I'm too lazy to go back and check. In any case, WTF is a "business leader" in the context of a President of Basketball Ops. It doesn't sound like Kenny Williams.

Some in the media have suggested they'll go the player agent route. I was just pointing out that race didn't seem to get in the way of what Ed Rogers at one time thought was a good baseball move (and it would have been).

[Jerry Lucas]

I doubt Ed could name more than 3 active Raptors and Pelley probably couldn't name much more than that. Pelley is a puckhead. Prepare to be underwhelmed.

Funny thing is he's not even a puckhead, he kinda wishes he was in the inner circle of "Good Ol' Hockey Men" lol. He's actually way more of a football guy.