How long before some on this board start calling for Scottie trade to free up PT for CMB?

[YogurtProducer]

Love this post because itll happen. This place overrates late first rd draft picks and/or young players ad nausea

CMB is not a late first round pick though lol

but hes a young player, hence the "and/or"

So is Scottie.

[Tofubeque]

Is Scottie going to call CMB his “project”?

[Merit]

Scottie will start feeling more pressure this year from media and fans now that he’s on a max contract.

If he doesn’t make a jump, then more fake trades with Scottie will appear regardless of how CMB looks.

He isn't likely to make any kind of jump. There are basically no indicators that he's moving in that direction, and we have other guys who need touches for development/examination now.

A trade, though, needs to be thoroughly and carefully considered. He's a very good defender, and we are in a dicey place for removing that kind of player from the team. We are already going to have some lineup juggling as-is, but if we don't add other defensive talent if/when we move him, it might get pretty ugly.

Agreed on the defensive side. We haven’t seen what Scottie looks like or what he’s added to his game this summer. I would also add that BI/IQ is a combo we haven’t seen, and both, in theory, should open more space for Scottie. Obviously Scottie with a consistent 3 would go a long way for the franchise.

[Senbonzakura]

Still got people who think Scottie is gonna be a superstar lol

[tsherkin]

Obviously Scottie with a consistent 3 would go a long way for the franchise.

It would. I just don't believe it'll happen. I have very little faith in his development as a scorer of any real volume.

[Merit]

Obviously Scottie with a consistent 3 would go a long way for the franchise.

It would. I just don't believe it'll happen. I have very little faith in his development as a scorer of any real volume.

Even if his scoring reduces (which I believe will happen this year) I feel hopeful for an increase in efficiency the same way pascal got a boost when Kawhi was around. Let Scottie be Scottie and be a sweeper and get him mixing up the matchups and creating problems for the other team. IMO Brandon Ingram is our primary scorer and while Scottie will get his touches, I don’t think he needs to be anything other than a secondary piece offensively to make his contract valuable. edit: even a corner 3, but I haven’t looked at his shot chart to know if that’s likely. Above the break would be even better since we have Ochai and Gradey.

[tsherkin]

Even if his scoring reduces (which I believe will happen this year) I feel hopeful for an increase in efficiency the same way pascal got a boost when Kawhi was around. Let Scottie be Scottie and be a sweeper and get him mixing up the matchups and creating problems for the other team. IMO Brandon Ingram is our primary scorer and while Scottie will get his touches, I don’t think he needs to be anything other than a secondary piece offensively to make his contract valuable. edit: even a corner 3, but I haven’t looked at his shot chart to know if that’s likely. Above the break would be even better since we have Ochai and Gradey.

I would love for that to be true. Scottie's second season doesn't have me SUPER enthusiastic about that, but maybe he can suck less enough to be around where he was as a rookie. I don't value him as an offensive threat, so I'm all for him just hitting the O-boards, cutting where he can, hovering around the rim and then running in transition (with the ball, if he gets a DRB). After that, I have no desire to see him running anything on-ball at all, nor ever shooting ATB.

[Ell Curry]

Multiple possibilities if they're both really good:

1. Scottie improves his shooting and we play Scottie at the 3 and are a massive team (Ingram at the 2 if he's here long-term and healthy) with slightly below average spacing as CMB is at the 4. Or CMB can shoot, stranger things have happened.

2. Lots of small-ball with CMB and Scottie doing Draymond impressions and 3 shooters around them. 25 minutes of Poeltl would still leave 23 minutes a night for CMB or Barnes at the 5 to juice our offence. We might see that this year if our O is a bigger problem than our D (likely) and Mamukelashvili isn't a rotation guy.

3. Trade one with some picks/other stuff for a proper offensive centrepiece or elite shooter (or to move up and get one, or if we're tanking, for a bunch of firsts) and throw out Quickley, that shooter, Ingram one of Barnes or CMB at the 4 and Poeltl at the 5.

[Harcore Fenton Mun]

Could you imagine what we look like if Scottie's scoring drops to like 14-15ppg this year. That contract...

[tsherkin]

Could you imagine what we look like if Scottie's scoring drops to like 14-15ppg this year.

Probably better on O, if we're talking about a healthy team.

That contract...

It'll depend heavily on his defense. People need to stop anchoring a player's entire value to their PPG output.

[Merit]

Could you imagine what we look like if Scottie's scoring drops to like 14-15ppg this year. That contract...

He’ll be closer to 20, just because of minutes.

[Harcore Fenton Mun]

Could you imagine what we look like if Scottie's scoring drops to like 14-15ppg this year. That contract...

He’ll be closer to 20, just because of minutes.

There's a lot of mouths to feed this year.

[Merit]

Could you imagine what we look like if Scottie's scoring drops to like 14-15ppg this year. That contract...

He’ll be closer to 20, just because of minutes.

There's a lot of mouths to feed this year.

Think about Scottie anchoring a defensive bench unit.

Consider that RJ also gets staggered out of the starting lineup and that Jak doesn’t need touches.

I really don’t think it’ll be much lower than 18. Scottie still handles the ball a fair bit and his middy is coming along. He’s a firm 2/3 offensively after BI and possibly IQ.

If anyone takes a hit IMO it’s RJ.

[Merit]

Could you imagine what we look like if Scottie's scoring drops to like 14-15ppg this year. That contract...

He’ll be closer to 20, just because of minutes.

There's a lot of mouths to feed this year.

It’s a good problem to have!

[sbsat]

CMB is not a late first round pick though lol

but hes a young player, hence the "and/or"

So is Scottie.

who is younger?

[Harcore Fenton Mun]

He’ll be closer to 20, just because of minutes.

There's a lot of mouths to feed this year.

It’s a good problem to have!

It can be, it can also make some. In terms of fit etc. Like, RJ. Scottie's scoring could go down.

[no dice]

For sure it will happen soon. People here don't remember how special Scottie was in his first year he was schooling every big names like draymond and embiid

[bluerap23]

Last year was a bit of a throw away for Scottie. He was encouraged to just chuck 3s to get reps since we weren't trying to win. I'm expecting a leap this year with him focusing on playing to his strengths. I don't want to see him shoot a 3 unless he is wide open and being challenged to do so. He clearly took a step back last season without Pascal beside him drawing attention. That should be corrected with BI.

[Indeed]

Scottie will start feeling more pressure this year from media and fans now that he’s on a max contract.

If he doesn’t make a jump, then more fake trades with Scottie will appear regardless of how CMB looks.

He isn't likely to make any kind of jump. There are basically no indicators that he's moving in that direction, and we have other guys who need touches for development/examination now.

A trade, though, needs to be thoroughly and carefully considered. He's a very good defender, and we are in a dicey place for removing that kind of player from the team. We are already going to have some lineup juggling as-is, but if we don't add other defensive talent if/when we move him, it might get pretty ugly.

Agreed on the defensive side. We haven’t seen what Scottie looks like or what he’s added to his game this summer. I would also add that BI/IQ is a combo we haven’t seen, and both, in theory, should open more space for Scottie. Obviously Scottie with a consistent 3 would go a long way for the franchise.

His defense is overrated. Much like Siakam on offense needs a lot of support, Barnes defense also needs a lot of support due to his lack of lateral quickness to defend on the perimeter. We are putting him in the best situation on defense in order for him to be successful (not the team to be successful). If we have Barrett or Steph Curry with defensive issue, Barnes is not magically keeping us in the top of the league in defense, yet, we still need to cover his lack of offense with lack of cap space to pay for others.

[Mikistan]

I mean I'll start doing it now if you admit your goat is properly escaped if I do?