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A Jonathan Mogbo trade is inevitable, right?

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Re: A Jonathan Mogbo trade is inevitable, right? 

Post#41 » by JB7 » Thu Jul 31, 2025 1:38 pm

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MessiahUjiri wrote:When you look at this roster, there’s a clear glut at the 2/3/4.

A lot has been said about the wing glut between RJ/Jakobe/Dick/Ochai. But there isn’t that much convo about how Mogbo doesn’t really fit with CMB on the team.

Both Mogbo and CMB play like undersized non-floor spacing Centers. CMB is clearly the better prospect.

As constructed, Mogbo can’t play extended mins at either PF or C.

We’ve talked a lot about trading RJ. Since there’s no market for him, IMO Mogbo is actually the more likely trade prospect (athletic hustle big on a rookie deal). They are guaranteed to make a move to duck the tax. It’s possible we send them out together in a star deal, when you think about this logically.


I’ve already started wondering where Mogbo might end up (Chicago? Sacramento?). He won’t be here past the trade deadline.


I would argue that when you think about logically we aren’t getting star back based on an RJ package.

If a star becomes available and our package is RJ + picks then that package is going to get beat by a plethora of teams. If a star becomes available we are far down the list as a front runner.

We tried to trade RJ for Ingram and even the dumbass Pels didn’t want him. I firmly believe RJ doesn’t have much value around the league given what we’ve seen scoring + questionable defense guards go for this off-season.

As for Mogbo I say we hold onto him. We won’t get back a better pick than we used on him so might as well keep hoping on his upside.


The Pelicans didn't want RJ, because they were looking to unload salary. The whole point in trading BI for them was they could not afford all the contracts that were building up for them. They preferred the flexibility of BB's expiring deal, and KO's deal, which only had one year left. If money wasn't a concern, they would have just resigned BI.
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Re: A Jonathan Mogbo trade is inevitable, right? 

Post#42 » by MEDIC » Thu Jul 31, 2025 4:43 pm

I think having Mogbo on the roster is a win-win..If he doesn't devlop his offensive game much, we have an inexpensive deep bench player who can play the 3/4/5 & is a defensive beast. He may also be easy to retain because he has connections here.

For those old school Blue Jays fans.......he can be our Rance Mulliniks. Cheap utility bench player that can play fill multiple positions well enough when injuries occur.

If he does develop his game & becomes too expensive for.us, then we have a good trade piece.
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Re: A Jonathan Mogbo trade is inevitable, right? 

Post#43 » by tsherkin » Thu Jul 31, 2025 5:01 pm

MEDIC wrote:I think having Mogbo on the roster is a win-win..If he doesn't devlop his offensive game much, we have an inexpensive deep bench player who can play the 3/4/5 & is a defensive beast. He may also be easy to retain because he has connections here.

For those old school Blue Jays fans.......he can be our Rance Mulliniks. Cheap utility bench player that can play fill multiple positions well enough when injuries occur.


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Re: A Jonathan Mogbo trade is inevitable, right? 

Post#44 » by C_Money » Thu Jul 31, 2025 6:47 pm

With CMB on the roster plus multiple other non-shooters, I don’t see how Mogbo even cracks the rotation.
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Re: A Jonathan Mogbo trade is inevitable, right? 

Post#45 » by tsherkin » Thu Jul 31, 2025 7:14 pm

C_Money wrote:With CMB on the roster plus multiple other non-shooters, I don’t see how Mogbo even cracks the rotation.


We'll have games with guys in foul trouble. If CMB can open it up from 3 a bit, he can slip into the 3/4 slots a little more easily, particularly with Scottie on the bench.

There are options. Mogbo was a 20 mpg project last year; I'm sure we can find 10-15 mpg for him floating around, especially if he's able to finish at the rim competently this season.
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Re: A Jonathan Mogbo trade is inevitable, right? 

Post#46 » by JShuttlesworth » Thu Jul 31, 2025 8:11 pm

I would hardly say we have "too much depth" at PF. I'm not even sure that Mogbo is a PF either, he plays more like an undersized C

I could see one of our wing players being moved, but I don't see any of our front court players being traded. But yah, CMB is going to take a lot of Mogbo's minutes.
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Re: A Jonathan Mogbo trade is inevitable, right? 

Post#47 » by YogurtProducer » Fri Aug 1, 2025 1:56 am

no dice wrote:He is such a stupid pick. Dont get me wrong he is decent but the consensus 1st pick in the 2nd rd was flipkowski which would have solved the back up C issue. Not even sure where Mogbo was projected but he definitely was not at the top and played the friend card

There is no consensus once you get to the 2nd round. If it was so obvious then these guys would have gone in the 1st.
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Re: A Jonathan Mogbo trade is inevitable, right? 

Post#48 » by Chris7711 » Fri Aug 1, 2025 2:15 am

MessiahUjiri wrote:
Grew wrote:He's Scottie's best friend and he's not going anywhere



I thought that too, but that’s defeatist thinking. By this deadline, that’s 2 seasons with your childhood friend-that’s pretty good.

The idea is to trade Mogbo for someone better. Scottie cares about winning, and he’s already signed here, and not an All NBA player. We don’t need to hold the trigger if there’s a deal available.

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Re: A Jonathan Mogbo trade is inevitable, right? 

Post#49 » by SharoneWright » Fri Aug 1, 2025 2:52 am

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MEDIC wrote:I think having Mogbo on the roster is a win-win..If he doesn't devlop his offensive game much, we have an inexpensive deep bench player who can play the 3/4/5 & is a defensive beast. He may also be easy to retain because he has connections here.

For those old school Blue Jays fans.......he can be our Rance Mulliniks. Cheap utility bench player that can play fill multiple positions well enough when injuries occur.


RANCE MULLINIKS.

There is a name I have not heard in a minute, damn...


I thought you were about to do your best Obi-Wan Kenobi impersonation there… A name I have not heard in a long time, a long time.

Rance played a lot actually. Part of a pretty cool platoon at 3rd base. Being a left-handed bat he faced the majority of right hand pitchers. His platoon-mate faced the lefties. His name……

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Re: A Jonathan Mogbo trade is inevitable, right? 

Post#50 » by ontnut » Fri Aug 1, 2025 4:55 am

In this cap environment, having a 2nd round player who can actually produce meaningful minutes is no longer just a luxury, it's a requirement.
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Re: A Jonathan Mogbo trade is inevitable, right? 

Post#51 » by ontnut » Fri Aug 1, 2025 4:57 am

YogurtProducer wrote:
no dice wrote:He is such a stupid pick. Dont get me wrong he is decent but the consensus 1st pick in the 2nd rd was flipkowski which would have solved the back up C issue. Not even sure where Mogbo was projected but he definitely was not at the top and played the friend card

There is no consensus once you get to the 2nd round. If it was so obvious then these guys would have gone in the 1st.

lol yup. There was a choice between 3-5 guys on who should be the 3rd overall pick this past draft. You think there's a consensus for the 31st guy? lol.
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Re: A Jonathan Mogbo trade is inevitable, right? 

Post#52 » by tsherkin » Fri Aug 1, 2025 11:41 am

SharoneWright wrote:I thought you were about to do your best Obi-Wan Kenobi impersonation there… A name I have not heard in a long time, a long time.


I should have, but I'm an idiot and missed the opportunity, lol.
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Re: A Jonathan Mogbo trade is inevitable, right? 

Post#53 » by OAKLEY_2 » Sun Aug 10, 2025 9:26 am

no dice wrote:He is such a stupid pick. Dont get me wrong he is decent but the consensus 1st pick in the 2nd rd was flipkowski which would have solved the back up C issue. Not even sure where Mogbo was projected but he definitely was not at the top and played the friend card


I do not think solving back-up C was ever a corner stone marker of our rebuild. For that reason the assertion of it being a stupid pick is all wrong. Mogbo is a versatile athletic bench piece still with upside. Players that may not fit for salary reasons are Barrett and Ochai Agbaji. Mgobo is an entry level contract. That has huge value in any rebuild.

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