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Z.Lowe /B. Simmons : Team USA 2028 - Barnes not even mentioned

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Re: Z.Lowe /B. Simmons : Team USA 2028 - Barnes not even mentioned 

Post#21 » by Shakril » Yesterday 2:33 pm

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TheAlchemist23 wrote:Scottie did this to himself. He took a back seat to RJ Barrett lmao. No one considers role players on mid/garbage teams to be stars.


That is a rather unfortunate comment.

The reason Scottie is an afterthought right now is not RJ. Its scottie himself. I am tired of all the apologists that shield him from any kind of accountability.

Ya and poeltl is a better playmaker than Scottie, right, stop it.


So everybody is at fault, but not scottie, that scottie cant meet expecations?

Those are the kind of apoligies i am tired of. Thanks for proving my point.
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Re: Z.Lowe /B. Simmons : Team USA 2028 - Barnes not even mentioned 

Post#22 » by Tacoma » Yesterday 3:41 pm

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Honestly, the way they were talking, I’d almost expect CMB to be brought up ahead of Barnes…


Don’t write this thought off. They both have similar strengths & weaknesses but CMB appears to have very good work ethic/intensity vs. Barnes’ more laissez-faire/easygoing personality.

It’s going to be up Barnes but at current trajectory, I’d not be shocked if CMB becomes the better player in a few years.
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Re: Z.Lowe /B. Simmons : Team USA 2028 - Barnes not even mentioned 

Post#23 » by DreamTeam09 » Yesterday 4:03 pm

Tacoma wrote:
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Honestly, the way they were talking, I’d almost expect CMB to be brought up ahead of Barnes…


Don’t write this thought off. They both have similar strengths & weaknesses but CMB appears to have very good work ethic/intensity vs. Barnes’ more laissez-faire/easygoing personality.

It’s going to be up Barnes but at current trajectory, I’d not be shocked if CMB becomes the better player in a few years.


on the court Barnes does not have a lissez-faire personality. It's always fascinating how ppl can see the same things & come away with totally different perspectives. Maybe off the court that term may fit Scotty, definitely not on the court
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Re: Z.Lowe /B. Simmons : Team USA 2028 - Barnes not even mentioned 

Post#24 » by Saul Goodman » Yesterday 7:50 pm

Im a huge fan of both Simmons and Lowe so I am biased but I think the reason for this is that Barnes seems to be on the trajectory to become a super role player glue guy miscast as a franchise player. I think if he was on a team as the second option on a title contender in the role of Aaron Gordon he would have been added.

I actually predict that’s the role hel find by then and he will be on team USA in the Draymond role
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Re: Z.Lowe /B. Simmons : Team USA 2028 - Barnes not even mentioned 

Post#25 » by tecumseh18 » Yesterday 8:16 pm

Scottie picks his spots to shine. He was on his way to a trip-dub in his first ever playoff game before his foot was crushed by a 300 lb weight.

Last season was not the time for Scottie to shine. But against Kerr's Warriors in March, he was a superstar. The GSW commentators were raving about him until Darko pulled all the starters in the middle of the 4th with the Raptors leading (a move which couldn't have gone down well with the league office). Scottie is NOT Aaron f'n Gordon. He's a star. We'll see. We'll all see.
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Re: Z.Lowe /B. Simmons : Team USA 2028 - Barnes not even mentioned 

Post#26 » by TakeYourHeart » Yesterday 8:47 pm

tecumseh18 wrote:Scottie picks his spots to shine. He was on his way to a trip-dub in his first ever playoff game before his foot was crushed by a 300 lb weight.

Last season was not the time for Scottie to shine. But against Kerr's Warriors in March, he was a superstar. The GSW commentators were raving about him until Darko pulled all the starters in the middle of the 4th with the Raptors leading (a move which couldn't have gone down well with the league office). Scottie is NOT Aaron f'n Gordon. He's a star. We'll see. We'll all see.

How you make Scottie doesn't show up for every game sound like a good thing
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Re: Z.Lowe /B. Simmons : Team USA 2028 - Barnes not even mentioned 

Post#27 » by tecumseh18 » Yesterday 10:40 pm

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tecumseh18 wrote:Scottie picks his spots to shine. He was on his way to a trip-dub in his first ever playoff game before his foot was crushed by a 300 lb weight.

Last season was not the time for Scottie to shine. But against Kerr's Warriors in March, he was a superstar. The GSW commentators were raving about him until Darko pulled all the starters in the middle of the 4th with the Raptors leading (a move which couldn't have gone down well with the league office). Scottie is NOT Aaron f'n Gordon. He's a star. We'll see. We'll all see.

How you make Scottie doesn't show up for every game sound like a good thing


Hah, it's not a question of whether Scottie shows up for every game. It's whether he shows up for every quarter. The knock on him has been that he kinda drifted through the first halves of games, happy to facilitate.

Scottie is his own guy. But he sure can play when there is something on the line - and there are elite scorers on his team to drop it off to. And this season, there will be.
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Re: Z.Lowe /B. Simmons : Team USA 2028 - Barnes not even mentioned 

Post#28 » by Vampirate » Yesterday 11:03 pm

44.6 FG% and 27.1 3P% shooting splits just isn't going to cut it.
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Re: Z.Lowe /B. Simmons : Team USA 2028 - Barnes not even mentioned 

Post#29 » by PoundTown » Yesterday 11:29 pm

Vampirate wrote:44.6 FG% and 27.1 3P% shooting splits just isn't going to cut it.


Exactly, Scottie's growth isn't going to be about volume, it's going to be about efficiency.

If we can ever get the man to give us 20 pts, 8 reb, 7 assist, 3 stocks on 50, 35, 80 on a good team while making an all defensive team or at least have a good amount of votes for all defensive team, he will be an all star. I'm holding out hope he can be that player. Even, if he reaches his ceiling, realistic ceiling, he's going to do it in a Scottie Pippen role, not a 1st option role.
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Re: Z.Lowe /B. Simmons : Team USA 2028 - Barnes not even mentioned 

Post#30 » by manjusaka » Today 12:21 pm

SB will need to carry the team and win some games for him to get noticed. Honestly, I don’t really care for team USA. Lowry and DDR could only be on the bench back in the day.
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Re: Z.Lowe /B. Simmons : Team USA 2028 - Barnes not even mentioned 

Post#31 » by TheGeneral99 » Today 1:29 pm

Who cares, it's 2025.

Barnes has plenty of time to prove he belongs in that conversation.

Nobody in 2013 would have ever considered Demar and Lowry for team USA in the 2016 next Olympics (you would have been laughed at)...but by 2016 they were both all-stars that led us to the eastern conference finals...and they made team USA.
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Re: Z.Lowe /B. Simmons : Team USA 2028 - Barnes not even mentioned 

Post#32 » by TheGeneral99 » Today 2:17 pm

manjusaka wrote:SB will need to carry the team and win some games for him to get noticed. Honestly, I don’t really care for team USA. Lowry and DDR could only be on the bench back in the day.


Demar barely played, but Lowry was actually closing out games for team USA and the coaches preferred him over Kyrie at times due to his defense.

USA-Spain was the 2016 team's closest game in the semi-finals and you will see Lowry was playing in the 4th quarter. Kyrie only came back in with like 3 minutes left when the game was decided.

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Re: Z.Lowe /B. Simmons : Team USA 2028 - Barnes not even mentioned 

Post#33 » by ConSarnit » Today 3:14 pm

Why would he get consideration? When was the last time team USA rostered a non-shooting 4? The only non-shooters who make team USA are C’s (who are either elite offensively or defensively).

Even if Barnes makes the leap to all-D this year I doubt he gets anywhere close to team USA. They don’t need his shot creation. He’s not proven to be some elite dirty work hustle guy. They definitely don’t need his terrible spacing.
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Re: Z.Lowe /B. Simmons : Team USA 2028 - Barnes not even mentioned 

Post#34 » by TheRealDeal » Today 3:26 pm

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Thaddy wrote:I would rather he play for Jamaica and be featured. It's more transferrable than playing with a stacked team.

Not Jamaica.

Canada


I’ve seen people in the chat tell Scottie to play for Canada during his twitch streams before and he always just says his goal is to make the US Olympic team. I don’t think he’s interested in playing for Canada tbh
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Re: Z.Lowe /B. Simmons : Team USA 2028 - Barnes not even mentioned 

Post#35 » by Tor_Raps » Today 4:21 pm

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Tripod wrote:
Thaddy wrote:I would rather he play for Jamaica and be featured. It's more transferrable than playing with a stacked team.

Not Jamaica.

Canada


I’ve seen people in the chat tell Scottie to play for Canada during his twitch streams before and he always just says his goal is to make the US Olympic team. I don’t think he’s interested in playing for Canada tbh


Nor should he. Raptors can trade his ass tomorrow and he'll feel really stupid playing for Canada lol.
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Re: Z.Lowe /B. Simmons : Team USA 2028 - Barnes not even mentioned 

Post#36 » by C Court » 56 minutes ago

Fast track Canadian citizenship for Barnes and let him play for Team Canada!
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Re: Z.Lowe /B. Simmons : Team USA 2028 - Barnes not even mentioned 

Post#37 » by ItsDanger » 32 minutes ago

He doesn't deserve it currently. 52%TS as a PF is not good.
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