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Re: PG: Raptors gut out a resilient win 

Post#61 » by Zeno » Today 6:03 am

LoveMyRaps wrote:Can we re-sign Mamu and just go deeper into the tax?

We got 13 million under the tax for next year currently for 11 guys after Mamu opts out. How much do you see it costing to keep him? Of course that amount does the first rounder or filling out the roster with minimums. But even if the cleared the full MLE under the tax by getting off Gradey's 7 for next year, 14ish is the most they can pay him without bird rights. That should be more than plenty/probably an overpay. I think 3 for 30 is fair maybe with another player option if you have to.
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Post#62 » by mihaic » Today 6:10 am

This game was good practice against the zone. Hopefully they get a bit more confident.
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Post#63 » by The Warrior » Today 6:23 am

LoveMyRaps wrote:Quick’s defense has been pretty good this season.

Made some big defensive plays tonight as well.

(Schroeder did get the better of him on a couple occasions though)
Quicks offense has come around and he's been looking great, but not sure what you've been watching on defense. He's been bad on that side of the ball for the most part.

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Post#64 » by Thaddy » Today 6:45 am

It's between RJ and Mamu. I think Mamu is the more winning player. Size and shooting will always be useful and he can get extremely hot. I like how he pushes the ball and goes coast to coast. There's a bit he can develop there.

RJ is amazing but he'll be more expensive than Mamu. The impact isn't that much more either. We can probably sell him for plus value too. I would be okay with picks and expirings. We can load up for a future trade once Poeltl and IQs values mend.

Poeltl / Mamu
Barnes / CMB
Ingram / Walter
IQ / Dick
Shead / (prospect?)

Build IQ, Shead, Poeltl and Mamu's value then trade for an all in piece to give us a 3-4 year window.
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Post#65 » by WuTang_CMB » Today 9:17 am

Solid win. Scottie has been a demon. Get portland now
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Post#66 » by Brinbe » Today 9:30 am

gah, i fell asleep sometime in the third again. damn these westcoast tips smh. but good on them for adjusting after halftime to their zone. scottie raised his game, was getting those middies off in the middle of the defense and brought everyone's else along. Will definitely be earning his all star nod. but overall doing that on the road on a b2b missing a bunch of rotation guys, very good. mamu huge in the 1st half to help keep it close. that gradey rip and run finish was a highlight. good team win in the end. took care of business.

not really possible due to salary but monk would be such a great vet scoring guard off-the-bench.
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Post#67 » by NinjaBro » Today 9:34 am

I fell asleep at halftime again ffs
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Post#68 » by MoneyBall » Today 10:14 am

Well, what many predicted would be a disastrous road trip, is turning out OK. We're gonna be alright.
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Post#69 » by Clutch0z24 » Today 10:34 am

Yallbecrazy wrote:Didn't realize how bad this Kings roster was


They are 12-33....I think they are one of the worst constructed teams in the league.....No young guy to be super excited about and bad vets....

At least the 2026 draft is a stacked one but they will prolly end up messing up the pick some how.
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Post#70 » by Clutch0z24 » Today 10:50 am

Dennis 37 wrote:Did we win because the Kings just suck?


Well yeah....With the injuries we have we are more than likely not beating any good teams atm.....But a win is a win and at least we are winning these easy ones.

Against Blazers/Thunder/Knicks/Magic we better get some guys back or it could be an ugly 4 game losing streak.
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Post#71 » by Los_29 » Today 10:52 am

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Yallbecrazy wrote:Didn't realize how bad this Kings roster was


They are 12-33....I think they are one of the worst constructed teams in the league.....No young guy to be super excited about and bad vets....

At least the 2026 draft is a stacked one but they will prolly end up messing up the pick some how.


Just shows you hard it is to find talent in this league. Kings have had so many lottery picks the past two decades. Then you look at teams that tanked but didn’t find any elite talents in the draft. Luckily they were able to acquire their superstars in trades which helped them become relevant again.
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Post#72 » by Clutch0z24 » Today 11:00 am

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Yallbecrazy wrote:Didn't realize how bad this Kings roster was


They are 12-33....I think they are one of the worst constructed teams in the league.....No young guy to be super excited about and bad vets....

At least the 2026 draft is a stacked one but they will prolly end up messing up the pick some how.


Just shows you hard it is to find talent in this league. Kings have had so many lottery picks the past two decades. Then you look at teams that tanked but didn’t find any elite talents in the draft. Luckily they were able to acquire their superstars in trades which helped them become relevant again.


Front offices play a part in this....Kings have been one of the worst runned franchises with bad front offices for a really long time now.

If you have a bad front office the on court play will suffer as well....Masai was an elite GM for 10 years and once he won the title our Front office became really bad and lackadisical making multiple blunders which resulted in bad on court product....

Any team that has a good front office (Thunder/Spurs) are prolly going to be contenders for a long time.
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Post#73 » by theonlyeastcoastrapsfan » Today 11:07 am

Two dubs on a back to back, what is this?
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Post#74 » by TGM » Today 11:17 am

The kings play like they have 4 guys that are playing 1 on 1 ball. However, let’s give credit when it’s due. Lavine is a pretty damn good offensive talent.

Mamu will have suitors. Will need to give him full MLE. Anything higher we can’t resign him cause we don’t have bird rights.

I think Raps will go under tax before the season end, but I think we will resign Mamu and then go over the tax to resign RJ. The right kind of deal for RJ is probably something in the 25-30 million range on a 2 + 1 team option deal. In some ways Raps have to go into the tax going into the next season. If we don’t have bodies and salaries to match. If a big star becomes available next year don’t see how we can match salaries. If RJ wants longer term deal. It’s almost a no for sure. 2+1 can be tradeable. Sometimes you keep these contracts around to make trades. Being right below the tax does us no favors going into next season. If a big piece is available you are back to Quick and Jakob as the pieces. Ochai will be gone. So unless you want to move Ingram or Barnes.
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Post#75 » by rapluva » Today 11:26 am

On a side note، they had a 7 footer that played well. He is their second rounder, we could use a guy like him off the bench.
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Post#76 » by Duffman100 » Today 11:33 am

rapluva wrote:On a side note، they had a 7 footer that played well. He is their second rounder, we could use a guy like him off the bench.


Apparently he forced his way to the Kings.
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Post#77 » by Duffman100 » Today 11:34 am

Another win I couldn't watch.

27-19 and tied for 3rd. Damn!
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Post#78 » by KO7 » Today 12:02 pm

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Tripod wrote:Big win....at least got 2 wins on the trip in the bank. Getting the win vs Blazers would be huge since we know OKC is a loss.

if we win against the blazers, i would give ingram and scottie at least the okc game off. rj should be back and quickley should still be fresh from the couple games he took off.


I’m worried about OKC because of their prison-ball style. We don’t need anymore injuries.
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Post#79 » by Los_29 » Today 12:02 pm

Clutch0z24 wrote:
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They are 12-33....I think they are one of the worst constructed teams in the league.....No young guy to be super excited about and bad vets....

At least the 2026 draft is a stacked one but they will prolly end up messing up the pick some how.


Just shows you hard it is to find talent in this league. Kings have had so many lottery picks the past two decades. Then you look at teams that tanked but didn’t find any elite talents in the draft. Luckily they were able to acquire their superstars in trades which helped them become relevant again.


Front offices play a part in this....Kings have been one of the worst runned franchises with bad front offices for a really long time now.

If you have a bad front office the on court play will suffer as well....Masai was an elite GM for 10 years and once he won the title our Front office became really bad and lackadisical making multiple blunders which resulted in bad on court product....

Any team that has a good front office (Thunder/Spurs) are prolly going to be contenders for a long time.


OKC/Spurs actually weren’t contenders for a long time. Both were treadmill teams for nearly half a decade. Spurs got lucky three times in the lottery, and we all know what happened with OKC.

I’m glad Masai made the Kawhi trade. It got us a title even though we just had Kawhi for a year. I doubt we win the championship without Gasol, Lowry and Ibaka on the team. Once they all retired or left, it’s hard to replace that talent in a short period of time.

I don’t think the Spurs have won a playoff round in nearly a decade. OKC nearly went that long as well.
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Post#80 » by MiamiSPX » Today 12:12 pm

I don't care who is missing for the opponents, we just won 2 road games on a b2b. We are also missing 2 starters, and 4 rotation players.

I didn't think Barnes had a bad 1H, even though many were saying so. And once again, he ended up with a fantastic game of 23/8/7/4/1. He punched his ticket to the All-Star game these past few games, if there was any doubt prior to that.

BI continues to make big shots. That ATO shot he made after they had pulled to within 8, pretty much iced the game..

Even stuck 9 at halftime, that game never felt in doubt to me. Keep in mind that they are starting 2 guys that literally nobody wanted (Achiuwa and Westbrook) and both will likely be out of the NBA next season. You probably couldn't put together a worse team even if you tried. Just a dumpster fire of an organization.

Only 4 teams have more wins than us as of this morning. Still on a 48-win game pace.

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