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Another Look At Bargnani's Struggles

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Post#41 » by rdtx2005 » Sun Jan 6, 2008 2:58 pm

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Oh, come on. Every village has one.


our village has far too many (jlcsa, gscw, bigtime105, saturn28, etc...)
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Re: Another Look At Bargnani's Struggles 

Post#42 » by curryfries » Sun Jan 6, 2008 3:03 pm

AB_21 wrote:After reading the first paragraph of RJC's long, long, long post that will somehow evaluate Bargnani over the next 5 games (I didn't read it all). I just remember a bit of a simpler look at why Bargnani has struggled...


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Notice anything different?

No knee brace. He's been wearing it the entire time he's been struggling and maybe the brace was bothering his jumpshot and his mobility (his two biggest weaknesses during his slump). Maybe RJC knows about this and will look like a brilliant man after his experiment but I think it could be the brace.

It very well could be the fact that he's just recovering from the injury but I think wearing that brace may have bothered him.

I know it sounds crazy but it's more plausible than it may seem.


The guy injured both his knee's in a span of a week, its amazing how many people totally dismiss this and claim bust or slump as the reasoning for his bad play in decemmber. Apperently the 5-6 games he sat out was just for shittts and giggles and the knee brace he wore when he returned was a fashion statement.

Let me restate that, it doesnt amaze me at all with some of the fools I see posting here on a daily basis
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Post#43 » by C Court » Sun Jan 6, 2008 3:54 pm

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Ive watched enough NBA to know that anyone in the league can put up 25pts when given the playingtime and escpially when given the green light by the coach to chuck it up anytime youre open. This is the NBA, if you cant score 20+ on your good night with the coach backing your offfense you dont deserve to be in the league. So anyone in the league can score you 20 points on a good night, so what next? What else do they bring? Bargnani brings nothing except the odd hot shooting night which any dummy in the league can give you with enough shats at the rim. IM not impressed bargnani scores 25 points, when hes been scoring 1-11 with no other stats to speak of for the last month.


You are right, anyone can put up 25 points.

But Bargnani put up 25 points on 16 shots.

THAT is hard to do. THAT takes talent.

And yes, on any given night, anyone can do that - what separates the great players from the average ones is the ability to do it every night - or at least most nights.

Now Bargnani has put up efficient offensive numbers two nights in a row after a long struggle. If its just one night, then so be it. But if it DOES become a regular occurance, then you cannot so easily dismiss it.


btw - its also worth pointing out that Bargnani also did a reasonably solid job on Wallace last night - sure he had 20 points, but 15 of those came from beyond the arc, where he was 5-7.

So to say that he "only" put up scoring numbers is disingenuous.



Didn't you get the memo??

None of that good stuff matters because its been determined by those who are more knowledgable than you and I that Andrea is the worst rebounding big man in the history of the game.

Based on the rules of RealGM, that means Andrea is a bust! :D
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Post#44 » by from24ft » Sun Jan 6, 2008 4:25 pm

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Didn't you get the memo??

None of that good stuff matters because its been determined by those who are more knowledgable than you and I that Andrea is the worst rebounding big man in the history of the game.

Based on the rules of RealGM, that means Andrea is a bust! :D


I got that memo but it was only regarding Charlie V... it said his 40 point performence did not matter because he could not play D.
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Post#45 » by C Court » Sun Jan 6, 2008 4:40 pm

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I got that memo but it was only regarding Charlie V... it said his 40 point performence did not matter because he could not play D.


Touche :lol:

My point is that we often seem to get too focused on player's weakness and don't look at the strengths.

Its the old Ben Franklin list. List the pros on ove side of the ledger and the cons on the other. Hopefully, the positives outweigh the negatives (as I believe is the case with Bargs).

On the other hand, you need balance in all assessments of talents. Bottomline is that all players have flaws.
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Post#46 » by uniballer » Sun Jan 6, 2008 5:55 pm

James699 wrote:meh he will never be good as ROy. BARNANI sucks



whos this barnani character you speak of??? are you using grade 3 logic to spell his name?? sound it out little one!!!!
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Post#47 » by deknow » Sun Jan 6, 2008 5:58 pm

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Post#48 » by teamLeiweke » Sun Jan 6, 2008 6:05 pm

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i've already pointed out this issue a lot of times...i'm glad to see someone else who thinks the same :wink:

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defensive adjustments are an exception to the rule...bargnani right now had few possibilities to touch the ball in the 4th quarters


I did not see the detroit game.. but I have seen many cases where this is the case and I share the same sentiment as you.

One memory I have is in the playoffs in NJ, he was on fire, suddenly is Jose and Bosh pick and roll and Barg doesnt get another touch.

Maybe it is because they want the highest chance of getting to the free throw line for easy points down the stretch, and that means you got to take it to the paint, and Bargs just wont do that, you know you are settling for a jumper if you give it to him... but if is he is on fire... I say you continue to feed the fire!!!! Because when he is on, he is ON!!

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