Nuggets interested in Jose?

black06eclipse · Post #41 » by **black06eclipse** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:13 pm

the Iverson practice thing is a myth. He's turned into Mr. Practice/Weightroom since coming to Denver.

its cool that he finally grew up.

alysomji · Post #42 » by **alysomji** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:43 pm

TJ hasn't shown the ability to stay healthy and how long his career will last is a serious question.

Trading Jose sounds like an unnecessary gamble. Trading TJ, however, makes sense. The only problem is that his value has probably declined a fair bit. If TJ can return to the lineup and finish the season strong, the Raps might still be able to get a pretty good player in return for him.

LukeJacks3s · Post #43 » by **LukeJacks3s** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:56 pm

Jose is restricted and on his rookie deal which means trading him this year wouldn't net Colangelo fair market value. Following this season I see a team offering Jose more than Colangelo (or MSLE) is willing to pay. Much like the attempted signing of Chris Duhon a couple of years ago. Either way Jose gets extended as a Raptor, but how long does he stay?

How's this for a scenario? Rasho picks up his player option for the final year. Jose gets re-signed for similar money and the two are packaged together in a deal to Phoenix for Shawn Marion (Which would be Hollinger's small forward upgrade mentioned in his recent chat)

Post #44 » by **Shaazzam** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:58 pm

I think Jose would then have the poison pill provision in year 1, no?

LukeJacks3s · Post #45 » by **LukeJacks3s** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:10 pm

I think Jose would then have the poison pill provision in year 1, no?

Right, if his rookie deal gets extended. If he were allowed to hit the market following the signing deadline and any offer matched this trade scenario would become more likely.

Before I get attacked for offering just two pieces for Marion, things like Phoenix making an early playoff exit (not making the NBA finals) and luxury tax complications should be considered for this to work. It's not just the quality of players being exchanged these days that drive trades.

premium plus · Post #46 » by **premium plus** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:12 pm

Makes perfect sense. Now that Jose is showing that he's an all-star caliber player, Colangelo MUST be shopping him around. I bet he can't wait to trade him away.

Econgrad · Post #47 » by **Econgrad** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:22 pm

LukeJacks3s wrote:Jose is restricted and on his rookie deal which means trading him this year wouldn't net Colangelo fair market value. )

Not a rookie deal. He was undrafted and signed as a free agent. If he does go, it will be a sign and trade this summer. But with TJ's health indefinitely at risk, I can't see BC letting Jose go. On the other hand, Jose deserves to be a number 1 guard on a team.

Post #48 » by **Shaazzam** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:25 pm

Econgrad wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Not a rookie deal. He was undrafted and signed as a free agent. If he does go, it will be a sign and trade this summer. But with TJ's health indefinitely at risk, I can't see BC letting Jose go. On the other hand, Jose deserves to be a number 1 guard on a team.

so no PPP?

Death Knight · Post #49 » by **Death Knight** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:53 pm

Jose for Carmelo............

AllKnowingNBAer · Post #50 » by **AllKnowingNBAer** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:58 pm

Let's just trade DMart to Denver. They can't get Jose from us.

If it were possible salarywise, I wouldn't even do a Jose for Iverson straight up. That's right, you heard me.

saham · Post #51 » by **saham** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 11:52 pm

If Iverson could not help the Nuggets to become an instant Contender, you think he is going to help Toronto to become an instant contender ?

bigtime105 · Post #52 » by **bigtime105** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:27 am

Only player on Denver this team could use is Camby, but I wouldnt give up an allstar pointgaurd for him, Bargnani straight up for Camby I'd do.

risktaker91 · Post #53 » by **risktaker91** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:34 am

JR Smith and Nene for Calderon is fair, but obviously Raptors wouldn't do it.

TGM · Post #54 » by **TGM** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:36 am

Denver is not a good trading partner.

The only guy we would want is Carmelo and unless Denver is looking to trade him and not ask for CB4, no trade makes sense.

Zebsterama · Post #55 » by **Zebsterama** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:44 am

I think TJ or Jose should be moved. My fear is that someone's going to offer Jose a boat load of $$ and Toronto will be forced to match.

Then next year we'll have the PG trade watch all season until one of them is let go. If Rasho and Jose can be packaged say for a Camby or AI I think BC really has to consider it.

I love Jose, but unfortunately I think this scenrio will play out.

J Dilla · Post #56 » by **J Dilla** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:54 am

If Jose and Rasho works for AI I think its a good deal. If TJ Ford gets injured again god forbid, Allen Iverson can step in and be the starting PG.

I'd love to see Iverson in a Raptors jersey.