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Post#41 » by Boogie! » Fri Jan 18, 2008 8:07 am

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The rudeness went both ways, that question puts Sam on the spot. What is he supposed to say? I mean isn't it obviouse what's happening out there? There's no way he can answer that without throwing his players under the bus. It's either a missed assignment, rotations slow, etc Somebody messed up. So what is he gonna say? And why even talk about it a day later at practice after they just WON THE GAME. He prob just finished hammering it into his guys' heads all practice. And its obvious that it wasn't just a bi polar freak out by Sam, that guy must of had it coming. Sam knows thoes guys, he's been here for long enough. I guess we'll just agree to disagree but to me that question seemed stupid, Sam didn't like it, there's most likely a history behind it. He's not just gonna swear at some dude for no reason. He said it before about the reporters that everytime they ask him a question he thinks they are gonna do something to him. I'v read stories before, I'v heard the questions, I'v watched the post/pre game interviews and that's what my opinion is based on. I would of spit in that guys face and slapped him, so he's lucky.


i guess this is where the disagreement lies. idk maybe the dude asking the question was acting like prick when he asked it. and if this is the case then he's a jerk too and i can see what the problem is. but if you're pissed off at the question itself, then i don't agree. it's just a basketball related question. you are siding with mitchell instead of actually looking at the situation itself.

you're saying mitchell is being put on the spot. he's on the spot everyday, he's on the spot during the game, just like the players are. it's his job. and on the other hand, it's the reporters job to find out information for a story so if he has a basketball related question that isn't offensive, there's nothing wrong with it. it may be a negative question, but it's not rude or offensive. sam's response on the other hand was. and another problem is, it's not like it's just a one time thing. sam has always given rude answers to the media. i don't think it's acceptable just because it's "how he is". maybe sam feels a little awkward having to answer the questions, but he doesn't have to be a jerk about it. also, i've never seen a reporter act like a dick towards mitchell. all they do is ask him questions. and whenever sam gets a question he doesn't like, he acts like a jerk.
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Post#42 » by Mandrake » Fri Jan 18, 2008 8:33 am

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i guess this is where the disagreement lies. idk maybe the dude asking the question was acting like prick when he asked it. and if this is the case then he's a jerk too and i can see what the problem is. but if you're pissed off at the question itself, then i don't agree. it's just a basketball related question. you are siding with mitchell instead of actually looking at the situation itself.

you're saying mitchell is being put on the spot. he's on the spot everyday, he's on the spot during the game, just like the players are. it's his job. and on the other hand, it's the reporters job to find out information for a story so if he has a basketball related question that isn't offensive, there's nothing wrong with it. it may be a negative question, but it's not rude or offensive. sam's response on the other hand was. and another problem is, it's not like it's just a one time thing. sam has always given rude answers to the media. i don't think it's acceptable just because it's "how he is". maybe sam feels a little awkward having to answer the questions, but he doesn't have to be a jerk about it. also, i've never seen a reporter act like a dick towards mitchell. all they do is ask him questions. and whenever sam gets a question he doesn't like, he acts like a jerk.


lol lets just me and you take this thread to 100 posts. But anyways yes that's right he's on the spot everyday and it's gotta get annoying answering these nit picking questions from reports especially (and I'll say it again) the next day at practice after a win. Maybe it's a good one after the game, but the next day after practice just seems stupid to me. And it's not the questions that piss him off, it's the way they spin the story later on in their articles. Anyways we are on two different sides of this issue but I think we both make good points. So it's not like one of us is wrong or right. Now that's all i'm gonna say about this, you can have the final word if you will but that's my story and I'm sticking to it.
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Post#43 » by bill russell » Fri Jan 18, 2008 1:39 pm

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lol lets just me and you take this thread to 100 posts. But anyways yes that's right he's on the spot everyday and it's gotta get annoying answering these nit picking questions from reports especially (and I'll say it again) the next day at practice after a win. Maybe it's a good one after the game, but the next day after practice just seems stupid to me. And it's not the questions that piss him off, it's the way they spin the story later on in their articles. Anyways we are on two different sides of this issue but I think we both make good points. So it's not like one of us is wrong or right. Now that's all i'm gonna say about this, you can have the final word if you will but that's my story and I'm sticking to it.



a lot of coaches like to foster a sense of togetherness on the team by creating a common enemy. the media, for instance.
also, by demonizing the media, sam takes some of the sting out of its comments. so if you're bargnani, and you know that the coach thinks the coverage you're getting is unfair, you don't take it to heart yourself.
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Post#44 » by ldnk » Fri Jan 18, 2008 3:49 pm

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Here is what I wanted to say.


Yeah, I tried to not paint with a broad stroke, but I probably did so poorly. It's a tough gig, for sure. And I would never want to label a group of people with a single feeling.


I'm perfectly willing to. You don't get Pulitzer prize writing out of the Toronto media. It started with the hockey reporting that took a significant nose-dive after the 1980s into going with attack pieces instead of balanced reporting. All through the Ballard years, the Toronto sports media would still be reasonable with what they wrote. If a player was playing great, you would get a lot of positive comments, if the team bombed, they would question the effort, but nothing would happen without an effect. The end of the 80s made a complete shift to what I would refer to "trailer park" journalism. Write things for the shock factor and instead of being a guy reporting on the team, the writing became almost about trying to say something so inflammatory that your name became the focus, and instead of the story being the big news, it was "Writer X says this". It got worse with the hockey team in the 90s, and I think a lot of that same mentality is seeping into the basketball writing.

The Toronto media is pretty dumb when it comes to poking and prodding when its pretty clear that you aren't going to get an answer to a question. I get that it is the reporters job to ask questions, but if Mitchell says he won't answer questions about something on Day 1, and on Day 88 you are still asking him that same question, by all means ask it, but then don't get all defensive when he flips out in response.
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Post#45 » by cdel00 » Fri Jan 18, 2008 4:04 pm

A reporters job is to sell papers pain and simple. A colourful response to a questionable question sells more papers than a cookie cutter response to a cookie cutter question.

However in this case the reporter is correct the Raps do a horrid job closing out on three point shooters too frequently.
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Post#46 » by v1n5anity » Fri Jan 18, 2008 4:31 pm

hate to say it but Smitch has the right to get ticked at the media for being so negative despite us winning. I remember VC being a douche to reporters because they keep asking him stupid questions. stupid meaning negative & others similar to that.
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Post#47 » by ruckus » Fri Jan 18, 2008 4:45 pm

Whatever. The media eats it up. They love the fact that Sam is acerbic and eminently quotable.

I'd rather have Smitch than the "110%" line all the time.
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Post#48 » by Junkball » Fri Jan 18, 2008 5:12 pm

Mitchell still has a long way to go if he wants to match the Darko rant:

Nothing, these three big [expletive]heads, these two ... three [expletive for lady parts] have cheated us, that's what happened. This [expletive for lady part], these three [expletive]heads think they are something. I will go and [expletive] their mothers' [expletive for lady parts]--all three of them, that's what I'm gonna [inaudible] ... [expletive for lady parts] all three of them, I'm gonna [expletive] his Italian mother in her [expletive for lady parts], man, that's what I want to say...

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