Pathetic production from the backup PG position

Indiana Jones · Post #21 » by **Indiana Jones** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 3:59 pm

At this point, TJ's trade value is utterly zero. Even before his injury, teams would have wanted Jose over TJ. So now, he's going to have embrace a permanent job as a backup because Jose is here to stay. Martin and Dixon will not be Raptors beyond this season. Still, I'm scared about TJ, since he'll probably cry and complain if he doesn't regain the starting job...

rdtx2005 · Post #22 » by **rdtx2005** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 4:06 pm

Indiana Jones wrote:At this point, TJ's trade value is utterly zero.

Perhaps

Even before his injury, teams would have wanted Jose over TJ.

How so?.. TJ was putting up NBA starting PG type of numbers. to say that people would have wanted Jose instead of TJ before the injury(ies) is a bunch of horse crap.

So now, he's going to have embrace a permanent job as a backup because Jose is here to stay.

so you are making the determination that Jose is now the starting PG for life? you related to Ms. Cleo?

Still, I'm scared about TJ, since he'll probably cry and complain if he doesn't regain the starting job...

he hasn't shown any signs that he is that type of character.. why are you bringing this up now? TJ has deferred to Jose before.

Indiana Jones · Post #23 » by **Indiana Jones** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 4:24 pm

whether or not tj or jose starts, jose should get the lion's share of minutes. he's more efficient than tj. but whatever, maybe sam will just go with whoever has it going on a game by game basis. i wouldn't be upset that happened.
sure, he may not be a bad character guy, but let's just see how he handles being a backup in limited minutes over the rest of the season...
jose has (and had) more value because he does a lot more than tj. his ass/to ratio has always been great, and his shooting % is also fantastic. he's got great size for a pg, and his team-oriented attitude ooze off of him while he's on the court. because of tj's injury when he was a buck, teams would be hesitant. jose's been as durable as anyone would want. i think teams would want jose more, even before tj's al horford run in. you could debate it, but i bet gms would agree with me...

Viperstrike · Post #24 » by **Viperstrike** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 4:30 pm

we need TJ, hopefully he can get back soon.

rdtx2005 · Post #25 » by **rdtx2005** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 4:31 pm

Indiana Jones wrote:whether or not tj or jose starts, jose should get the lion's share of minutes. he's more efficient than tj. but whatever, maybe sam will just go with whoever has it going on a game by game basis. i wouldn't be upset that happened.

that is debatable..

sure, he may not be a bad character guy, but let's just see how he handles being a backup in limited minutes over the rest of the season...

i honestly think he won't have an issue with it.. he is making his money.. and is getting back to game shape.

jose has (and had) more value because he does a lot more than tj. his ass/to ratio has always been great, and his shooting % is also fantastic.

I'm sorry.. I will disagree with you on that Jose always 'had' more value. That statement just reeks with bias.

he's got great size for a pg, and his team-oriented attitude ooze off of him while he's on the court.

He is good size for a PG.. but bad instincts on defense... both PGs are team oriented.. don't forget this.

jose's been as durable as anyone would want. i think teams would want jose more, even before tj's al horford run in. you could debate it, but i bet gms would agree with me...

i don't think i would agree with that statement.