PG- We win!

Darrick Martin · Post #181 » by **Darrick Martin** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 6:11 am

Luv 4 da game wrote:I don't know if anyone else mentioned this already, not trying to be negative here, but the open looks that delfino got in the end were pretty wide open and he missed them. Now if Kapono was in instead of him and got the same looks, would he had made those shots ? and give us a good comfortable lead where we could easily hold it out until the end ?

there is a reason why JK isn't coming into the game in crunch time and that's DEFENSE. He is almost automatic with the hand checks as his foot speed is just to slow most SF's.

theonlyeastcoastrapsfan · Post #182 » by **theonlyeastcoastrapsfan** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 6:23 am

I watched the replay. I thought we responded well to the Johnson thing. It would have been different if he was still in the game, but after he got tossed, I don't think they should have targeted Joe Johnson, or anything like that. the pace and physicality picked up and we responded well and won.

El Presidente · Post #183 » by **El Presidente** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 6:34 am

theonlyeastcoastrapsfan wrote:I watched the replay. I thought we responded well to the Johnson thing. It would have been different if he was still in the game, but after he got tossed, I don't think they should have targeted Joe Johnson, or anything like that. the pace and physicality picked up and we responded well and won.

Agreed, the intensity picked up and we were equal to the challenge. I'd still like to see one of the Raps get a little pissed at Johnson for pulling **** like that.

Raptors90102 · Post #184 » by **Raptors90102** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 7:23 am

what I like is Jose's efficiency. He has taken around 11 shots a game for the past few games and makes a good percentage. He just takes the shots that are presented to him without forcing the offence. But he does seem to have a knock for getting those big baskets when the team needs them. He and Bosh have been working real well off-late. The raps seem to initiate their offence off a Bosh post-up.

WaltFrazier · Post #185 » by **WaltFrazier** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 8:02 am

GameBoy wrote:man, where are all the bosh haters now

Never a hater, but I was disappointed in his play early in the year and said he wouldn't make the AS game. He's a lock now though. Nice to see him going to the hole more instead of settling. It makes all the difference.

teamLeiweke · Post #186 » by **teamLeiweke** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 10:01 am

Bargnani had a respectable October and November... what has happened to him is a huge mystery, its painful, he is reaching Araujo-esque viewing displeasure.

Anyway, check out most of these lines:

Date Opponent Result MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OFF DEF REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
Nov 30 vs. CLE W 91 - 82 40 9 - 19 2 - 4 6 - 8 1 5 6 3 1 1 2 3 26
Nov 28 vs. MEM W 103 - 91 21 3 - 6 1 - 1 4 - 5 1 6 7 2 0 1 1 4 11
Nov 25 vs. CHI W 93 - 78 28 3 - 9 1 - 4 0 - 0 0 3 3 1 0 2 2 4 7
Nov 24 @ CLE L 108 - 111 33 6 - 9 0 - 1 2 - 2 0 5 5 1 0 0 2 3 14
Nov 21 @ MEM W 95 - 89 31 5 - 16 3 - 4 0 - 0 0 11 11 4 0 0 2 5 13
Nov 20 @ DAL L 99 - 105 33 7 - 14 5 - 9 1 - 2 2 3 5 1 0 0 1 1 20
Nov 18 vs. GSW L 100 - 106 19 5 - 10 1 - 2 1 - 2 2 1 3 0 0 0 2 3 12
Nov 16 vs. IND W 110 - 101 5 0 - 1 0 - 0 0 - 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 3 0
Nov 14 vs. UTA L 88 - 92 16 1 - 11 0 - 5 0 - 0 1 2 3 0 0 1 1 0 2
Nov 10 @ CHI W 101 - 71 21 4 - 7 2 - 4 4 - 4 0 0 0 2 0 0 1 4 14
Nov 09 @ PHI W 105 - 103 23 3 - 8 2 - 4 1 - 2 1 1 2 2 0 0 3 2 9
Nov 07 vs. ORL L 96 - 105 35 7 - 18 2 - 7 0 - 1 2 6 8 0 0 0 3 4 16
Nov 06 @ MIL L 85 - 112 13 2 - 3 1 - 1 0 - 0 0 3 3 0 1 0 0 4 5
Nov 04 vs. BOS L 95 - 98 34 2 - 13 1 - 4 4 - 5 2 6 8 2 0 1 1 3 9
Nov 02 @ NJN W 106 - 69 30 7 - 11 4 - 6 3 - 4 0 6 6 1 1 0 1 4 21
Date Opponent Result MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OFF DEF REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
Oct 31 vs. PHI W 106 - 97 22 6 - 11 3 - 4 5 - 5 2 3 5 0 0 2 1 3 20
Oct 26 vs. WAS PRE W 98 - 64 23 6 - 9 1 - 2 4 - 4 4 4 8 0 0 3 5 2 17
Oct 25 vs. CLE PRE W 111 - 78 22 4 - 10 0 - 3 0 - 2 1 4 5 1 0 0 1 5 8
Oct 19 vs. CHI PRE W 92 - 82 25 7 - 12 3 - 7 2 - 2 0 1 1 3 0 0 2 3 19
Oct 17 vs. ZAK PRE W 105 - 99 19 3 - 9 0 - 2 2 - 2 2 6 8 0 0 1 1 4 8
Oct 11 @ RMA PRE L 103 - 104 33 7 - 12 3 - 5 6 - 7 2 5 7 1 0 1 6 3 23
Oct 07 @ LRO PRE W 93 - 87 23 5 - 9 1 - 1 2 - 4 2 5 7 0 0 0 3 6 13
Oct 06 @ BOS PRE L 85 - 89 14 4 - 6 2 - 3 3 - 4 0 3 3 1 1 0 2 4 13

theonlyeastcoastrapsfan · Post #187 » by **theonlyeastcoastrapsfan** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 1:56 pm

^ his scoring is down but in some ways he's playing better. It's not like were running play after play for him and he's not delivering. His offense will come back, once he kicks the meth perhaps, and I think he'll be a better player for these struggles because he's starting to rely on other parts of his game, if he was burying three after three, fans would be happier, but he may take longer to become a passable rebounder. Stat might not show it much but Andrea's no longer hurting us on the boards, as much as before. He, and the whole team for that matter, are really looking to put a body on guys lately when a shot goes up. He's adjusting his shot and it's not working he has to try to forget he's struggling and believe it or not, he has to shoot himself out of it. I say one game where he plays well offensively and defensively, (I know not to much to ask for a no. 1 pick right) he'll have some mojo back.

ghuytro · Post #188 » by **ghuytro** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 3:53 pm

The thing with Moon though is that even he does take some iffy shots and although he probably should drive it more, he's one of the few if not the only players on this team who is effective and can make an impact on the floor without having the ball in his hands.

To me, his defensive play - blocks, steals, man/help defense etc. is similar in game impact to say, Jose's shooting, passing etc.

I think that's why he gets so many minutes as well - because of his ability to still impact the game even with his offensive short comings.

dagger · Post #189 » by **dagger** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 4:12 pm

For all of Bargnani's struggles, he's started doing something very important the past two games. He's leaving his man to provide help, thus clogging the lane. He used to stay close to his guy no matter what, for sake of not being beaten by him, with the result that we often gave up an open layup because he was playing it far too safe. That's changing now. He was also working harder on the boards, and while it doesn't show in the numbers, he did mix it up in a way that helped teammates get rebounds.

But he has to get his offence back on track to be a net plus on the court.

I doubt he plays too much tonight, because Philly always goes small.

MrBojangelz71 · Post #190 » by **MrBojangelz71** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 4:15 pm

cb4lif3 wrote:chuck's getting on my nerves...he needs to let loose a bit and give the other teams in the league a break for not being as perfect as us. jose said AJ hit him with a forearm before that so i wouldnt be surprised if jose DID embelish the secodn time so the officials would see it. but jose seems to stir up a lot of guards in games and u never know why...anyone know what would make people playing jose so mad...i already got chuck's reason, cuz jose is the best ever but i wonder what u guys think.

(btw, please point me to the "chuck please stop being so unbiased" thread in these parts)

You gotta get this guy on the all star team! Hey Jack, You gotta get this guy on the all star team! It would be a crime...You gotta get this guy on the all star team! Leo, whadda u think???????You gotta get this guy on the all star team! Who else is playing betta PG in the East???? Who Who Who.....You gotta get this guy on the all star team!

PopAGat · Post #191 » by **PopAGat** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:27 pm

Funny thing is, Hawks commentators called Bargnani a weapon on offense and it would be a great and close game.

evilRyu · Post #192 » by **evilRyu** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:33 pm

double post

evilRyu · Post #193 » by **evilRyu** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:33 pm

Lucky 24 wrote:The worst part about being at the game was hearing that the music guy brought out the "Everybody clap your hands" music........I was glad that we were one of the few NBA teams that doesn't play this annoying song, but I guess our MC it would be okay since every other team uses this song.

YIKES!!!!!!!!

I heard that too, and when I did, I was like NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! I was extremely relieved that we wree one of the few buildings that didn't play it, but now it happens :cry:

El Presidente · Post #194 » by **El Presidente** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 6:38 pm

dagger wrote:For all of Bargnani's struggles, he's started doing something very important the past two games. He's leaving his man to provide help, thus clogging the lane. He used to stay close to his guy no matter what, for sake of not being beaten by him, with the result that we often gave up an open layup because he was playing it far too safe. That's changing now. He was also working harder on the boards, and while it doesn't show in the numbers, he did mix it up in a way that helped teammates get rebounds.

But he has to get his offence back on track to be a net plus on the court.

I doubt he plays too much tonight, because Philly always goes small.

I don't know about that, I think he loses track of his man a little too easily and that's one of the reasons why people get so many boards over him. I want him to play it safe on defense and focus almost entirely on boxing his man out instead of providing help except in cases where he's the weakside man and is our last defensive resort.