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Post#21 » by deknow » Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:53 pm

Kush wrote:Bosh : B+
Bargnani : F
Parker :C
El Matador Jose : A+
Moon : A
TJ Ford : B+
Dixon : C-
Delfino : A
Rasho : C
Baston: F
Martin : No expectation
Kapono : C+
Humphries: A
Joey G : D
Garbo : Can't grade him due to injures

Sam : C+


LOL you call him El matador but you give him an A+ His ole defense must count for something!
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Post#22 » by El Presidente » Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:11 pm

deknow wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



You realize there isn't much difference between a B- and a C right?

Everything you said I agree with but that amount to a C in my books.


I think there's a difference between getting a 63 and a 72 (in U of T speak).
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Post#23 » by stash » Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:34 pm

I don't really agree with the grades that Parker is receiving... I mean sure he struggled in the beginning
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Post#24 » by Joker » Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:47 pm

(C is the baseline, you
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Post#25 » by Nivrad » Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:56 pm

Bosh: A ... amazing as of late
Bargnani: C- ... stop getting into foul trouble early on
Parker: B ... great play lately
Calderon: A ... unbelievable, the guy's on pace to set the all-time record for assist-to-turnover ratio
Moon: B ... exciting, really good D, much needed energy and I like how he's attacking the basket more now
Ford: B+ ... man, that ATL game, he was going off ... we need this guy back
Dixon: C- ... he's aight for his role, i won't forgive him for turning the ball over twice in a row during game 6 of the playoffs last year
Delfino: B ... thanks detroit
Rasho: B- ... needs more playing time, but good when he's out there
Baston: N/A ...
Martin: D- ... practice what you preach
Kapono: B ... i wish he got more playing time and shots, we need plays for him
Humphries: B ... keep it up, hump
Joey G: C- ... good for spot minutes here and there
Garbo : N/A ... we miss your toughness

Sam : B ... entertaining and improving his coaching though his rotations are weird
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Post#26 » by Hendrix » Mon Jan 21, 2008 7:14 pm

El Presidente wrote:Anthony Parker is a C even though his per 48 is practically the same as last year?
Dunno if you read the start of the article. But it says

C is the baseline, you
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Post#27 » by The_Hater » Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:05 pm

Bosh : A- (shaky start, fantastic lately)
Bargnani : D-
Parker :B- (defense has been shaky)
Jose : A-
Moon : A- (was anybody expecting more?)
TJ Ford : A- (playing fantastic before injury)
Dixon : D-
Delfino : B (pleasantly surprised by all-around skills)
Rasho : B
Martin : D
Kapono : C
Humphries: C+
Joey G : D+
Garbo : N/A
Baston: N/A

Sam : B (team has played hard through key injuries)
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Post#28 » by The_Hater » Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:11 pm

El Presidente wrote:Anthony Parker is a C even though his per 48 is practically the same as last year?


Ignoring PER for a minute, I feel that his defense has slipped from 'very good' last year to (arguably) 'average' this season.
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Post#29 » by emfive » Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:21 pm

The_Hater wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Ignoring PER for a minute, I feel that his defense has slipped from 'very good' last year to (arguably) 'average' this season.


Is that your usual practice? Maybe it is. I am just kidding anyway. 8)

I wonder what AP's numbers would have looked like at this point last season. This is an honest question and the reason I ask you is that you are as likely (or more) to know the answer as anyone else.

I am thinking that by the end of the season AP way look as good as past season. Thoughts?
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Post#30 » by Taiyab_K » Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:27 pm

Bosh A needs to pick things up, it's now or never.
Calderon A dude's the real deal
J-Moon B+ i like boobs, no1 is reading this.
Kapono C+ on and off, off and on
Bargnani C- it's like his goal is to get two dummy fouls and then hit the bench
My name is Taiyab, and I realize there is an intra-team conflict at the Point Guard spot.
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Post#31 » by TR50 » Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:34 pm

Bosh : A-
Bargnani : D+
Parker : C+
El Matador Jose : A
Moon : B
TJ Ford : A
Dixon : D+
Delfino : B
Rasho : C
Baston: N/A
Martin : F
Kapono : B-
Humphries: B
Joey G : C-
Garbo : N/A

Sam : B
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Post#32 » by The_Hater » Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:39 pm

emfive wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Is that your usual practice? Maybe it is. I am just kidding anyway. 8)

I wonder what AP's numbers would have looked like at this point last season. This is an honest question and the reason I ask you is that you are as likely (or more) to know the answer as anyone else.

I am thinking that by the end of the season AP way look as good as past season. Thoughts?


While I love PER as an all-in-one statistic I'm well aware that it's far from the only thing that should be considered when grading players.

Not sure about AP but I'd guess that his offensive numbers were quite similar at this point last season (per minute). His pre/post all-star game splits didn't change very much. But he did average more minutes due to our weaker wing rotation.
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Post#33 » by AW=Heart & Soul » Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:49 pm

Bosh : A- Slow start but has really turned it on as of late.
Bargnani : D+ Very dissapointed.
Parker : C+ Not much different from last year except a slumping D. Solid rotation player.
Jose : A What more can you ask of a backup.
Moon : B
TJ Ford : A Since his injury I have now realized the importance of TJ to our team. Jose has been great and all but we need more penetrators on this team. TJ can be erratic at times but he brings a different dimension to this team that is severely lacking since he's been out.
Dixon : C- If only he had the size of a 2 than he would be a legitimate rotation player.
Delfino : B- Very good value for 2 2nd round picks. However he's too streaky and settles for too many long jumpers.
Rasho : B- When given decent PT he produces.
Martin : F
Kapono : B- Impressed with his ability to knock down mid range jumpers at a high % along with his 3pt shooting. But is he really that important to the success of our team?(aka is he worth the $$ for what he brings)
Humphries: B
Joey G : C- Hasn't been given a lot of PT to prove himself. Like his aggressiveness when he does play.
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Post#34 » by T.Duncan21 » Mon Jan 21, 2008 11:05 pm

Nivrad wrote:Bosh: A ... amazing as of late
Bargnani: C- ... stop getting into foul trouble early on
Parker: B ... great play lately
Calderon: A ... unbelievable, the guy's on pace to set the all-time record for assist-to-turnover ratio
Moon: B ... exciting, really good D, much needed energy and I like how he's attacking the basket more now
Ford: B+ ... man, that ATL game, he was going off ... we need this guy back
Dixon: C- ... he's aight for his role, i won't forgive him for turning the ball over twice in a row during game 6 of the playoffs last year
Delfino: B ... thanks detroit
Rasho: B- ... needs more playing time, but good when he's out there
Baston: N/A ...
Martin: D- ... practice what you preach
Kapono: B ... i wish he got more playing time and shots, we need plays for him
Humphries: B ... keep it up, hump
Joey G: C- ... good for spot minutes here and there
Garbo : N/A ... we miss your toughness

Sam : B ... entertaining and improving his coaching though his rotations are weird


With grades like that... wish u were the one who graded my my report card Darvin :wink:
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Post#35 » by Rapcity_11 » Mon Jan 21, 2008 11:26 pm

Nivrad wrote:Bosh: A ... amazing as of late
Bargnani: C- ... stop getting into foul trouble early on
Parker: B ... great play lately
Calderon: A ... unbelievable, the guy's on pace to set the all-time record for assist-to-turnover ratio
Moon: B ... exciting, really good D, much needed energy and I like how he's attacking the basket more now
Ford: B+ ... man, that ATL game, he was going off ... we need this guy back
Dixon: C- ... he's aight for his role, i won't forgive him for turning the ball over twice in a row during game 6 of the playoffs last year
Delfino: B ... thanks detroit
Rasho: B- ... needs more playing time, but good when he's out there
Baston: N/A ...
Martin: D- ... practice what you preach
Kapono: B ... i wish he got more playing time and shots, we need plays for him
Humphries: B ... keep it up, hump
Joey G: C- ... good for spot minutes here and there
Garbo : N/A ... we miss your toughness

Sam : B ... entertaining and improving his coaching though his rotations are weird



And you can forgive calderon?
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Post#36 » by J Dilla » Mon Jan 21, 2008 11:54 pm

Starting

Bargnani D
Bosh A
Moon A
Parker B- (starting to get hot)
Calderon A
Ford A (was our best player when everyone was slumping)

Bench

Delfino C+ (good defense, horrible shooting)
Dixon C (can do better when gets playing time)
Graham C (in the games he's played this year, he has looked decent)
Murray D
Rasho B-
Kapono C+ (Kapono can do wayy better)
Hump B
Baston - (needs to play)
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Post#37 » by Trilogy » Tue Jan 22, 2008 12:04 am

Bosh: A-
Bargnani: F
Parker: C
Calderon: A-
Moon: A-
Ford: A (Before Injury)
Dixon: D+
Delfino: B
Rasho: B-
Martin: D
Kapono: C
Humphries: B
Joey G: C
Garbo : N/A
Baston: N/A

Sam : B+

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