OT - Unbelievable! Hornets sit atop the Western Conference

[The_Hater]

The Hornets are a very well built team in terms of balance. They just need to shore up the bench, mature as a unit and they could be a legit title contender these next few years.

[The_Hater]

Two really important points about Tyson Chandler. First, a lot of the things that have been said about Bargs were said about Chandler over his first five years in the league. Too soft, too many fouls, bad attitude, no feel for the post game, etc. His stats were miserable -- he average almost as many fouls as points five years into the league. Now he's blossoming. Maybe BC knows what he's talking about when he says judge Bargs in five years.
Second point is that Chicago gave up on Chandler and got relatively little in return (unless you think JR Smith is the second coming and that PJ Brown still has legs). Patience is a virtue for a reason.

This is a pretty big reach. Chandler ALWAYS played hard and nobody ever questioned his attitude. It was Curry that was the lazy one with the questionable head but people were in the bad habit of lumping them together for years after they were drafted together.

Plus Chandler and Bargs are pretty much polar opposites in their respective skill sets.

[ilikecb4]

Hornets are really underrated and i dont know why...

Paul is a top 3 player in the league this season

Chandler is a beast downlow

West is a scoring machine, should be an all-star

Peja came back strong, he's inconsistent but still putting up decent numbers

Mo Pete is inconsistent, but still good when he's on

Bobby Jackson off the bench..

[JN]

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Kenny and Charles were ripping on Chicago about that. Kenny said someone in Chicago told him the got rid of him because all he did was rebound, run and block shots. That didn't sound too bad to Kenny and Charles. I think there's a talent evaluation issue in Chicago.

The problem was also with the rest of the leauge. I'm sure most teams did not think that highly of his supposedly "bad" contract, and no one wanted to offer more thne essentially an expiring for it.

[JN]

Second point is that Chicago gave up on Chandler and got relatively little in return (unless you think JR Smith is the second coming and that PJ Brown still has legs). Patience is a virtue for a reason.

I think your point is somewhat invalid. If he had a more reasonable contract at the time in there eyes they may have kept him... they did not like his contract which was the reason for the low return.

Subtle, yet MAJOR difference.

[omeloon]

The Hornets need a bench BAD.

Problem is, they have nothing to offer in a trade. They have a few small ending contracts, that's about it. They couldn't really even afford to take on any of our role players.

The farthest I'd be willing to go to help them would be Joey Graham or Maceo Baston for one or some of their garbage players on ending contracts. We didn't really need to give either player an extra year, though I have no problem keeping both guys as Raptors.

[doctaJ_92]

The Hornets need a bench BAD.

Problem is, they have nothing to offer in a trade. They have a few small ending contracts, that's about it. They couldn't really even afford to take on any of our role players.

Yep. I always try to catch NO games when they're on because I love watching CP3 just do whatever he wants with the ball out there. He controls the game better than Nash at this point.

They should really look into giving away either Armstrong or their 1st rd pick dude whats his name, Wright? For a guy like Mobley or someone like him, a good SG on a bad team that can come in and become their consistant 6th man scoring threat off the bench. Then look into getting a decent big like Petro or Moore to solidify their frontcourt and theyre set.

I think they can win a round this year.

[Hendrix]

Two really important points about Tyson Chandler. First, a lot of the things that have been said about Bargs were said about Chandler over his first five years in the league. Too soft, too many fouls, bad attitude, no feel for the post game, etc. His stats were miserable -- he average almost as many fouls as points five years into the league. Now he's blossoming. Maybe BC knows what he's talking about when he says judge Bargs in five years.
Second point is that Chicago gave up on Chandler and got relatively little in return (unless you think JR Smith is the second coming and that PJ Brown still has legs). Patience is a virtue for a reason.

They also gave up Elton Brand for Chandler, and someone else. Brand on the Bulls right now would be exactly what they need. Defense/reboudning, and points from a post player.

[PopAGat]

Bring back Morris Peterson.

Since the Hornets bench is bad...we could send Baston+Dixon for a something. They gave up Simmons for NOTHING so its possible we can get Armstrong off them.

[omeloon]

The problem is that the Hornets would struggle to match contracts for even Dixon + Maceo. I don't think they can take on more than just one of Dixon, Maceo, or Graham with the contracts they have.

[doctaJ_92]

Bring back Morris Peterson.

Since the Hornets bench is bad...we could send Baston+Dixon for a something. They gave up Simmons for NOTHING so its possible we can get Armstrong off them.

Why would the Hornets want Dixon, Baston or Graham? Pargo/BJax are both better than Juan, Ely is better than Maceo, and Wright is probably a better player than Graham who wouldnt get any minutes anyway. They need a true veteran SG to solidify their bench, not a munchkin chucker, undersized scrub, and a brainless inconsistant scrub.

[omeloon]

That's being really unrealistic though. They don't have the salary or the assets to bring in a guy like Mobley unless they're giving upf Bobby Jackson (one of their few decent bench players). While Ely is better than MAceo, they don't really have that many options off the bench. Another big man could be welcomed

[doctaJ_92]

Yeah, another bigman that's actually proven in the NBA and is above 6'8.

And I dont think they'd mind giving up Jackson for Mobley, it could work especially if Jackson has less years on his deal. I think the Clips would entertain a Julian Wright+filler for Mobley right now, whats the point in keeping him around?

[omeloon]

That's what I've been trying to say. They don't have anything to offer up in exchange for anyone proven and taller than 6'8. The best they can hope for is guys like Maceo. I said I'd welcome a trade for Graham or Maceo, but I realize that that's not exactly helping out either side much.
They have nothing to trade in order to get any decent big man in exchange.

[PharoaheMonch]

Two really important points about Tyson Chandler. First, a lot of the things that have been said about Bargs were said about Chandler over his first five years in the league. Too soft, too many fouls, bad attitude, no feel for the post game, etc. His stats were miserable -- he average almost as many fouls as points five years into the league. Now he's blossoming. Maybe BC knows what he's talking about when he says judge Bargs in five years.
Second point is that Chicago gave up on Chandler and got relatively little in return (unless you think JR Smith is the second coming and that PJ Brown still has legs). Patience is a virtue for a reason.

That couldn't be any further from the truth. First of all Chandler was fresh out of high school and his numbers were always good relative to his playing time.

He was a rebounding beast as soon as he stepped onto the floor.

[Shaazzam]

Haven't seen much of this team but I felt like looking at their schedule and seeing why they are doing so well. And it's been weak(here). They have been taking care of business against the teams they should beat, but I think their record is inflated and will come back to earth. Actually according to ESPN they have had the second weakest thus far. But who knows, maybe all those early season success will propel them forward and they will be able to maintain.