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Post#261 » by RapsBulls4evr » Sun Jan 27, 2008 3:05 am

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Well said.

If you have a problem with a locked thread just PM a Mod, they are all nice guys and will be happy to explain to you why they felt the thread needed to be locked.


I have no "problems" as to why he/she closed it (no idea who). Yes, a mod who didn't close it PM me, explaining why he/she may have closed it... however, I wasn't to thrilled with the reasoning and logic behind that (he seemed to specify that the topic was just theories, opinions, and so forth and not "facts". The topic was not some "scientific debate" needing proof or facts).
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Post#262 » by RapsBulls4evr » Sun Jan 27, 2008 3:10 am

Fairview4Life wrote:This is not a good thread, or a legitimate topic. I have no idea why you think this would be something worthwhile to hypothesize about.

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Think, think, think... stop accusing me of something that your doing ("hypothesizing"). In any case, even when closing a topic, you as a mod need to explain to that poster as to why you "think" it's not a good thread. My irritation was due to the fact that there was NO explanation as to why it was closed. Thanks for doing some research on me dude... like I said, I will ignore this and reserve judgement... for now.
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Post#263 » by Fairview4Life » Sun Jan 27, 2008 3:13 am

Raps4evr wrote:I have no "problems" as to why he/she closed it (no idea who). Yes, a mod who didn't close it PM me, explaining why he/she may have closed it... however, I wasn't to thrilled with the reasoning and logic behind that (he seemed to specify that the topic was just theories, opinions, and so forth and not "facts". The topic was not some "scientific debate" needing proof or facts).


Posters from a messageboard theorizing about TJ Ford's mental state, someone that no one here knows anything about personally, and how he would react to a hypothetical situation in which Jose makes the all star team...you think that's worthwhile? Seriously? What would it possibly mean if someone replied with "yeah, I think he'd be jealous!"? That's not a topic that generates discussion, or is worthy of a reply. At all. That should be relatively obvious. Locking that thread makes the board better, not worse.
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Post#264 » by LittleOzzy » Sun Jan 27, 2008 3:15 am

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Think, think, think... stop accusing me of something that your doing ("hypothesizing"). In any case, even when closing a topic, you as a mod need to explain to that poster as to why you "think" it's not a good thread. My irritation was due to the fact that there was NO explanation as to why it was closed. Thanks for doing some research on me dude... like I said, I will ignore this and reserve judgement... for now.


The Mods here don't have time to explain why they lock every thread. It's up to you as a poster to get in contact with them if you have an issue with a thread. This board is just waaaaay too busy for every Mod to PM members of locked threads.

In any case I can see why they locked your thread. The T.J. Calderon thing has been done a million times before and if your not bringing anything new to the table it's going to get locked.

You could of simply added your thoughts to another thread. The thread about Calderon possibly making the All Star game would of been a good choice.
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Post#265 » by Fairview4Life » Sun Jan 27, 2008 3:16 am

Raps4evr wrote:Think, think, think... stop accusing me of something that your doing ("hypothesizing"). In any case, even when closing a topic, you as a mod need to explain to that poster as to why you "think" it's not a good thread. My irritation was due to the fact that there was NO explanation as to why it was closed. Thanks for doing some research on me dude... like I said, I will ignore this and reserve judgement... for now.


I'm thinking that they don't actually owe you any explanation at all. A detailed explanation will probably be helpful for you in the future, so you know exactly what not to do later, but to be frank, it should be pretty obvious that the thread you started didn't deserve to stay open. If you are that irritated, PMing a mod would get you an explanation.
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Post#266 » by RapsBulls4evr » Sun Jan 27, 2008 3:21 am

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Posters from a messageboard theorizing about TJ Ford's mental state, someone that no one here knows anything about personally, and how he would react to a hypothetical situation in which Jose makes the al star team...you think that's worthwhile? Seriously? What would it possibly mean if someone replied with "yeah, I think he'd be jealous!"? That's not a topic that generates discussion, or is worthy of a reply. At all. That should be relatively obvious. Locking that thread makes the board better, not worse.


Lol, you sound like some scientist... almost every thread, posts on this board are nothing but theories and opinions. That reasoning and logic makes absolutely NO sense. Almost everyone here "acts" as if he/she knows each and every single Raptor personally. IF there was no to be only "evidence", blah, blah... then every single thread and post (most of them is to be deleted/closed then)?

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Post#267 » by RapsBulls4evr » Sun Jan 27, 2008 3:30 am

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The Mods here don't have time to explain why they lock every thread. It's up to you as a poster to get in contact with them if you have an issue with a thread. This board is just waaaaay too busy for every Mod to PM members of locked threads.

In any case I can see why they locked your thread. The T.J. Calderon thing has been done a million times before and if your not bringing anything new to the table it's going to get locked.

You could of simply added your thoughts to another thread. The thread about Calderon possibly making the All Star game would of been a good choice.


They "don't have time"? Lol, you sound mad! What about me, I have time? I'm a very busy college student. Whatever mambo jambo excuses you and fairview are coming up with is irrelevant. This board now has what?? 10 Mods, 3 Global Mods. Besides, some mods do explain why they closed a particular topic, and that is very good moderating.

The excuse of not having time, is dumb, find something else (be a retired mod then). I never said they should "owe" people explanations... however, THEY should in not only in the best interest of the whole board, but themselves. It's efficient and respectful, and I'm 100% sure most people do NOT appreciate their topics being closed without even given a reason as to why. IF they don't have to "give an explanation", then I would strongly make an appeal that they DO provide an explanation.

Whether or not what you guys are thought about the topic doesn't matter.
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Post#268 » by Fairview4Life » Sun Jan 27, 2008 3:31 am

Raps4evr wrote:Lol, you sound like some scientist... almost every thread, posts on this board are nothing but theories and opinions. That reasoning and logic makes absolutely NO sense. Almost everyone here "acts" as if he/she knows each and every single Raptor personally. IF there was no to be only "evidence", blah, blah... then every single thread and post (most of them is to be deleted/closed then)? EDITED


You clearly don't understand what I'm talking about. I'm guessing an explanation from a mod won't be all that helpful anyway.
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Post#269 » by LittleOzzy » Sun Jan 27, 2008 3:40 am

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They "don't have time"? Lol, you sound mad! What about me, I have time? I'm a very busy college student. Whatever mambo jambo excuses you and fairview are coming up with is irrelevant. This board now has what?? 10 Mods, 3 Global Mods. Besides, some mods do explain why they closed a particular topic, and that is very good moderating.

The excuse of not having time, is dumb, find something else (be a retired mod then). I never said they should "owe" people explanations... however, THEY should in not only in the best interest of the whole board, but themselves. It's efficient and respectful, and I'm 100% sure most people do NOT appreciate their topics being closed without even given a reason as to why. IF they don't have to "give an explanation", then I would strongly make an appeal that they DO provide an explanation.

Whether or not what you guys are thought about the topic doesn't matter.


I'm not mad, I just find it pretty ridiculous that you can't figure out on your own why the thread was locked.

It was a pointless thread that brought absolutely nothing new to the board. It also was a thread that would be a complete guessing game on how Ford feels, some would say yes he must be jealous, others would say no, it would go around in circles for a few posts and no real discussion would come out of it.

It was locked, end of story and I bet every mod on the board would agree with the one who locked it that's it's a thread not needed here.
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Post#270 » by RapsBulls4evr » Sun Jan 27, 2008 3:49 am

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You clearly don't understand what I'm talking about. I'm guessing an explanation from a mod won't be all that helpful anyway.


Oh? Is that so...? Nice way of refuting my points. Let me break down your words of "wisdom" that has caused me to misunderstand you:

Fairview4Life wrote:Posters from a messageboard theorizing about TJ Ford's mental state, someone that no one here knows anything about personally, and how he would react to a hypothetical situation in which Jose makes the all star team...you think that's worthwhile? Seriously? What would it possibly mean if someone replied with "yeah, I think he'd be jealous!"? That's not a topic that generates discussion, or is worthy of a reply. At all.That should be relatively obvious. Locking that thread makes the board better, not worse.


Bold part 1: I responded by stating that MOST threads and posts on this board are nothing more than just that theories and opinions. For instance NO ONE knows what Bargs is going through, and yet people drew all kinds of conclusions as if they "personally" knew him and his problems.

Bold part 2: Stop being "hypothetical", or wait... that's what most of this board is filled with.

Bold part 3: Read bold part 2.

Hmm... I think I understood pretty well. :o
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Post#271 » by Fairview4Life » Sun Jan 27, 2008 4:04 am

"Would Michael Redd help the Raptors"? Well, we can debate his basketball contributions, his contract, a million other things.

"If Andrea Bargnani starts scoring 25 points a game, will Chris Bosh be jealous"? That is a meaningless dead end. No one knows how someone will react to a hypothetical situation. If we respond to that thread, what would that tell you about anything? Yes, CB4 would be jealous. Well...ok then? Where do we go from there? Should we discuss possible trade options for Bargs or Bosh because someone who doesn't know him thinks Bosh will become jealous if Bargs reaches some hypothetical plateau? Even though none of our opinions mean anything, at least when it comes to basketball discussion there are points and counter points that merit some discussion. If I say a wing scorer would make the Raptors title contenders, you can reply with an argument. If I say TJ will be jealous of Jose, what can you say? no, he won't? Well, that's great.

Whatever, if you don't get it, I don't really care anymore. You keep an eye on those mods before approving or disapproving of them. I'm sure they're waiting on the edge of their seats.
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Post#272 » by RapsBulls4evr » Sun Jan 27, 2008 4:06 am

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I'm not mad, I just find it pretty ridiculous that you can't figure out on your own why the thread was locked.

It was a pointless thread that brought absolutely nothing new to the board. It also was a thread that would be a complete guessing game on how Ford feels, some would say yes he must be jealous, others would say no, it would go around in circles for a few posts and no real discussion would come out of it.

It was locked, end of story and I bet every mod on the board would agree with the one who locked it that's it's a thread not needed here.

I have no need to "assume" why the topic was closed, and why should I? Forget me, why should people "assume" and draw up conclusions as to why the a mod closed a certain topic? Nice... I guess the time excuse didn't work out.

Lol, how so? What "evidence" do you have to back up such a claim? My topic was not even a TJ vs Jose debate. Your making no sense.

Perhaps, but who cares of what the situation "might have been"? It's what this board is all about for crying out loud. That's not the point even. I have already emphasized the point being: "It's good and efficient moderating when you close a topic, leave at least a darn comment in general (not just my predicament)". The excuses just keep pilling up, eh? "Time", "why don't you figure out why your post was closed", what's next? Lmao... you guys have absolutely no idea what your even yapping about.

"I'm not here to be lectured as to why this and that MAY have been a bad topic, so-and-so closed this because MAYBE because, blah, blah... " Stop riding *coughs, coughs*.

I simply said, I will keep an "eye" out... My post was clean, filled with displeasure but maintained my cool.

Edit: Don't call people names.
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Post#273 » by RapsBulls4evr » Sun Jan 27, 2008 4:11 am

Fairview4Life wrote:"Would Michael Redd help the Raptors"? Well, we can debate his basketball contributions, his contract, a million other things.

"If Andrea Bargnani starts scoring 25 points a game, will Chris Bosh be jealous"? That is a meaningless dead end. No one knows how someone will react to a hypothetical situation. If we respond to that thread, what would that tell you about anything? Yes, CB4 would be jealous. Well...ok then? Where do we go from there? Should we discuss possible trade options for Bargs or Bosh because someone who doesn't know him thinks Bosh will become jealous if Bargs reaches some hypothetical plateau? Even though none of our opinions mean anything, at least when it comes to basketball discussion there are points and counter points that merit some discussion. If I say a wing scorer would make the Raptors title contenders, you can reply with an argument. If I say TJ will be jealous of Jose, what can you say? no, he won't? Well, that's great.

Whatever, if you don't get it, I don't really care anymore. You keep an eye on those mods before approving or disapproving of them. I'm sure they're waiting on the edge of their seats.

Same useless bickering... read my above post.
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Post#274 » by ScorKreaDagger » Sun Jan 27, 2008 5:28 am

Speaking of threads that should be locked...
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Post#275 » by Shaazzam » Sun Jan 27, 2008 5:04 pm

And I've got my eye out for disruptive posters who don't respect the rest of the community.

If anyone has a concern about a thread, PM a mod. Disrupting threads and bickering about explanations will not be tolerated.

To relate directly to the issue at hand, there have been countless threads opened about TJ and Jose. Almost all discussion can be placed in one of them. Sometimes, something new comes to light and it generates a new one. And it's up to the mods discretion as to if it should stay open or if it should be merged.

We generally want to leave things be and let them fall to the bottom if they don't generate any discussion, but this being an active board, we will lock things as well.

If you don't like it, PM a mod. If your ego gets bruised a little, try and bring something more to the table next time than baseless conjecture on how another person will feel about an event that transpires.

All that does it allow individuals to interpret how they would feel about a certain event and project that onto another. As the discussion progresses, many will take it as truth that this is how the individual being discussed will feel about things, and then we get to judge them on what they feel is right or wrong based on how we feel they will react to the initial event.

And that simply is crap, and is in my opinion, a very, very dangerous way to think about life and other people.
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