Players that shot more 3's than Kapono in Jan.

[Maximillion]

Teams are literally refusing the leave Kapono alone at the arc anymore and he doesn't have the athleticism or skill to get shots for himself.

But let's blame it completely on the coaching instead.

And that's not say it's bad thing either, it'd give more room for Bosh to operate I'd assume.

Anyone have a stat on player pairings for Bosh-Kapono?

[ImissBobCostas]

Kapono, on the court, not attempting shots is pointless.

It's happened a lot this season.

[ponder276]

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Okay we lead the league in fg% at the 3- point line, yet we're 25-20. Someone or something has to be blamed for those 20 losses. No one expects us to be perfect but we should not be 25-20. Who/what do you blame? Bargs? Injuries?

I personally blame the coaching staff and injuries. Not so much injuries as T.J hasen't been gone the whole season and we "supposely" have a deep bench. Believe me good coaching can work wonders. On paper we have a better squad than Portland, yet they have a better record than us, with their number 1 pick going down for the season. Coaching.

How about the fact that we have a VERY MEDIOCRE roster? Even with TJ, we still only have a team that consists of one borderline superstar, two solid supporting players who can't be on the floor at the same time, and a supporting cast of average to below average players who have nice jumpers, but can't rebound or create their own shots. Personally I think the coaching staff has this team performing very well, considering the roster, and especially considering the roster without TJ.

[Egg Nog]

Has anyone ever seen a play run for Kapono to get him an open 3?

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Yeah, that was the point I was trying to make earlier. I've definitely seen it done. TJ set him up

[TheMainEvent]

I would rather have a guy that's a bit more selective in his shot than someone who just chucks em up.

If Brad Miller is gonna be attempting more 3s than Kapono, that's Sacramento's fault. Haha. I dont care if Luke Jackson takes more 3s than Kap... Miami's horrible. Same with Fred Jones in NY, Sefalosha in CHI, Royal Ivey in MIL, Earl Watson in SEA, etc. etc. Bad teams always have more players that jack up 3s.

But I still believe that it's up to the coaches. Everyone has their limits, Kapono isn't someone that creates his own shot - and he's not quick/fast enough to run around and get himself open (ie. RIP, Reggie Miller, etc.). Smitch and our assistants know this, and yet, because we only have a few Xs and Os plays n such, Kap is left to just jog around while everyone else gets their fair share of 3s. Opposing teams know Kapono is a deadly - but limited 3-point shooter, so the defenders just stay with him. So if we want Kap to start shooting more, get Smitch to call a few plays for him.

The ONE thing everyone kept saying when the Raps first signed him was that he'd spread the floor. That's exactly what he's been doing. Even with Kap not shooting much, we still own the league in 3s. That's good enough for me.

[chsh22]

Has anyone ever seen a play run for Kapono to get him an open 3?
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Yes, in the Pre-season.

[BigBob13]

[quote="TheMainEvent"]I would rather have a guy that's a bit more selective in his shot than someone who just chucks em up.

If Brad Miller is gonna be attempting more 3s than Kapono, that's Sacramento's fault. Haha. I dont care if Luke Jackson takes more 3s than Kap... Miami's horrible. Same with Fred Jones in NY, Sefalosha in CHI, Royal Ivey in MIL, Earl Watson in SEA, etc. etc. Bad teams always have more players that jack up 3s.

But I still believe that it's up to the coaches. Everyone has their limits, Kapono isn't someone that creates his own shot - and he's not quick/fast enough to run around and get himself open (ie. RIP, Reggie Miller, etc.). Smitch and our assistants know this, and yet, because we only have a few Xs and Os plays n such, Kap is left to just jog around while everyone else gets their fair share of 3s. Opposing teams know Kapono is a deadly - but limited 3-point shooter, so the defenders just stay with him. So if we want Kap to start shooting more, get Smitch to call a few plays for him.

The ONE thing everyone kept saying when the Raps first signed him was that he'd spread the floor. That's exactly what he's been doing. Even with Kap not shooting much, we still own the league in 3s. That's good enough for me.[/quote]

+1 Well said.

[GameBoy]

Kapono needs to attack the net more

[Teabag]

Wow I haven't seen a coach bashing thread in a long time but this one is well worded that it doesn't really seem like one but hey, even a chimp in a tux with a cigar is still a chimp ... this is what he said in the paper today

"Obviously as a shooter, you want to get up shots," the laid-back Californian said. "But you also have to understand, (when the other team is keying on you) you're creating space for other guys to play.

"So even if you're not getting the shot, it's the threat of the shot that allows guys on your team to have room to make plays," he added. "If I'm not able to get another shot because the (other team) doesn't want to leave me from 23-feet and (instead) give up a six-footer, then, hey, it's a good thing for us."

[TribeZulu]

Kapono, on the court, not attempting shots is pointless.

It's happened a lot this season.

That's not exactly true. Part of the reason he's not getting shots is because defenses are keying on him. The last thing they want to do is leave a 50% three point shooter even a little bit open.

Consider his last two games:
Was- 0 threes, +24
Was- 1 three, +19

Small sample, but he can still be effective even when he's not getting shots because he creates space for other players.

[Maximillion]

Wow I haven't seen a coach bashing thread in a long time but this one is well worded that it doesn't really seem like one but hey, even a chimp in a tux with a cigar is still a chimp ... this is what he said in the paper today

"Obviously as a shooter, you want to get up shots," the laid-back Californian said. "But you also have to understand, (when the other team is keying on you) you're creating space for other guys to play.

"So even if you're not getting the shot, it's the threat of the shot that allows guys on your team to have room to make plays," he added. "If I'm not able to get another shot because the (other team) doesn't want to leave me from 23-feet and (instead) give up a six-footer, then, hey, it's a good thing for us."

Oh what a coincidence, two days later the same subject manages to make the papers.

[chuckerz]

i think maybe Kapono is trying to step away from the label of being a one trick pony and "tries" to create off the dribble therefore he is not taking that many three point shots.

[T.Duncan21]

How about we blame Kaponos lack of being able to get open. For a shooter... he sucks at moving without the ball... he's so friggin slow and has worse handle than Joey Graham. If you wanna watch a shooter get open... watch Rip Hamilton... Korver... Mike Miller. Getting open and being able to get ur shot off is a SKILL that most of u ignore and Kapono lacks that skill.

[TheDoctor]

How about we blame Kaponos lack of being able to get open. For a shooter... he sucks at moving without the ball... he's so friggin slow and has worse handle than Joey Graham. If you wanna watch a shooter get open... watch Rip Hamilton... Korver... Mike Miller. Getting open and being able to get ur shot off is a SKILL that most of u ignore and Kapono lacks that skill.

Kapono moves very well off the ball. He doesn't move well WITH the ball, but we're mainly asking him not to.

Again, as far as I'm concerned, if he's in a good spot on the floor to keep the spacing for our other options, and the other team is sticking to him - that's good for our overall scheme. I do think that he should be a little quicker on the trigger - lately he's worrying too much about the guy sticking to him or closing out. I'd rather he shoot immediately (and maybe even draw some fouls), or pass out, rather than dribble.

But overall, I don't think he has to shoot to be effective. But he shouldn't pass up open looks, ever.

[T.Duncan21]

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Kapono moves very well off the ball. He doesn't move well WITH the ball, but we're mainly asking him not to.

Again, as far as I'm concerned, if he's in a good spot on the floor to keep the spacing for our other options, and the other team is sticking to him - that's good for our overall scheme. I do think that he should be a little quicker on the trigger - lately he's worrying too much about the guy sticking to him or closing out. I'd rather he shoot immediately (and maybe even draw some fouls), or pass out, rather than dribble.

But overall, I don't think he has to shoot to be effective. But he shouldn't pass up open looks, ever.

I disagree... for a shooter, he sucks at moving without the ball. He's so dam slow that it's easy to catch up to him and contest his shots or make him put the ball on the floor. Just watch all the other good shooters and see how quick they are WITHOUT the ball and u'll notice why Kapono doesn't get as many shots off as we'd all like. The difference between korver and Kapono is that while Kapono may be the better shooter... Korver is so quick without the ball so he can take more shots.

Furthermore... do u think Reggie Miller and/or Rip Hamilton would really be as great at scoring if they were slow? What makes them so hard to guard is that they could run like idiots and change directions on the fly so it was near impossible to guard them without really good team defense. With Kapono... it's very easy for 1 man to contain him because he can't change directions quickly nor is he a sprinter who can out run anyone. I've always felt that for a guy who's suppose to be a sniper... he may have the worst ability to get open. When u can't create off the dribble, u need to make up for it in other ways, which Kapono can't so ur left to blame the coach for his inabilities.

And no, I am not comparing Kapono to Reggie or Rip... just tryin to show what moving without the ball can do for u. Moving without the ball is the equivalent for these guys as is having amazing handles for guys like Kobe/Chris Paul/Nash. It's the way these guys have to get shots.

[The_Hater]

i think maybe Kapono is trying to step away from the label of being a one trick pony and "tries" to create off the dribble therefore he is not taking that many three point shots.

I don't see that at all. If Kapono is open, he shoots it. He understands perfectly that's his strength and that's why he's in the league.

Problem is he killed so many defenses last season and the first 6-8 weeks of this season that teams have clearly adjusted and are now forcing him to be more than a one-trick pony. Teams are pretty much shawdowing so that he can't get going even if it means giving up wide open jumpers to Delfino, Dixon and others. And if they're going to take away the catch-and-shoot, passing it and putting the ball on the floor are the only 2 options left.

Another thing that I haven't seen mentioned. Kapano spent the first few weeks of the season always playing with a quality PG that could create looks for him. Either TJ or Jose. For the past 7 weeks he's played a bulk of his minutes with either Martin or Dixon, two of the worst creating/passing PG's in the entire league. Don't think for a second that hasn't hurt his ability to get open looks.

[HighOctane]

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Knowing your players and a great play call got a miracle 3 to put the game into overtime last night...

X's and O's don't do squat if your players don't execute...

X's and O's aren't even shown by our team

I like our predictable Bosh isolation though worked wonders against Jersey. If Kapono is watched tightly on the perimeter, isn't it an X's and O's guy responsibility to get him open?

Parker's clutch 3 was incredible by the player. He was guarded by 3 players. That play was read no?

Firstly, Kapono has an amazing release, and that he doesn't need much time. I'm sure that even off a pick and roll he's deadly. (To the OP)It seems that all of his shots are forced and unnatural and always contested, other than the transition 3s(which have occured last since when?). I'm sure with running the right plays he can get a decent shot in.

[JN]

Kapono, on the court, not attempting shots is pointless.

It's happened a lot this season.

Not totally pointless. Kapono is still very closely guarded to the point where it fundamentally distracts the defensive system / rotations of the other team.... makes rotations and doubling more difficult.

The existence of Kapono against certain teams makes it easier for others to operate.

Even though he is not shooting, he still does cause the other team guard him... its not like its a 4 on 5.

[Maximillion]

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I don't see that at all. If Kapono is open, he shoots it. He understands perfectly that's his strength and that's why he's in the league.

Problem is he killed so many defenses last season and the first 6-8 weeks of this season that teams have clearly adjusted and are now forcing him to be more than a one-trick pony. Teams are pretty much shawdowing so that he can't get going even if it means giving up wide open jumpers to Delfino, Dixon and others. And if they're going to take away the catch-and-shoot, passing it and putting the ball on the floor are the only 2 options left.

Another thing that I haven't seen mentioned. Kapano spent the first few weeks of the season always playing with a quality PG that could create looks for him. Either TJ or Jose. For the past 7 weeks he's played a bulk of his minutes with either Martin or Dixon, two of the worst creating/passing PG's in the entire league. Don't think for a second that hasn't hurt his ability to get open looks.

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[Hank_Scorpio]

Its called a "shooting slump" people.

Kapono shot only .397 from the field in January and only .429 from 3.

So he, being a smart shooter, has been taking fewer shots because he hasn't been hitting them.

IMHO, this is what a good shooter does - they understand when their shot is falling and when it isn't and when it isn't, they don't jack it up. That's why if you look at his month of January, there was only the one game where he went 1-7 that stands out - he had one where he was 3-9 and one where he was 4-10 - but otherwise, it looks like he understood on the nights when his shot wasn't falling, that he shouldn't take the shots.

The funny thing is that you people are so annoying, that if he WAS taking shots, you'd be all over him for jacking up shots while he was in a slump.

So now, the guy is taking fewer shots because he doesn't feel it, and you get on him for it.

There's just no winning with some people.