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Tank World Order (7.0)

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What do you think is ideal for this Raptors team?

Add another lottery prospect with star potential to the team.
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Team is great already, make a push for the playoffs even if it’s the play-in.
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I don’t know currently, going to wait and see.
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Re: Tank World Order (7.0) 

Post#721 » by Jcity08 » Sat Jan 15, 2022 3:57 am

We got a lot of season left, anything can happen, playoffs or lottery.
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Re: Tank World Order (7.0) 

Post#722 » by Ref_from_hell » Sat Jan 15, 2022 4:00 am

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720 wrote:Damn, where are all the team mediocre posters that were active in here the past couple days? :lol:

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You really think losing to the pistons proves anything you've ever said?

Whatever, team loser can sleep happy tonight :lol:


Dude loves the smell of his own farts.

It goes beyond the raptors getting a good draft pick or the raptors making the playoffs, he just wants to be right.

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Re: Tank World Order (7.0) 

Post#723 » by DelAbbot » Sat Jan 15, 2022 4:00 am

Jcity08 wrote:
720 wrote:Damn, where are all the team mediocre posters that were active in here the past couple days? :lol:

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The past few weeks were unreal in here.


I'm glad to see our boys come back

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Re: Tank World Order (7.0) 

Post#724 » by 720 » Sat Jan 15, 2022 4:03 am

Jcity08 wrote:We got a lot of season left, anything can happen, playoffs or lottery.

True, deadline is going to be interesting (or uneventful).
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Re: Tank World Order (7.0) 

Post#725 » by Los_29 » Sat Jan 15, 2022 4:16 am

Ref_from_hell wrote:
TorontoRapsFan wrote:
720 wrote:Damn, where are all the team mediocre posters that were active in here the past couple days? :lol:

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You really think losing to the pistons proves anything you've ever said?

Whatever, team loser can sleep happy tonight :lol:


Dude loves the smell of his own farts.

It goes beyond the raptors getting a good draft pick or the raptors making the playoffs, he just wants to be right.


And he’s literally never right which makes it even funnier. From saying we didn’t tank last year to saying FVV is stat padding. It just never ends.
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Re: Tank World Order (7.0) 

Post#726 » by Chandan » Sat Jan 15, 2022 4:17 am

HumbleRen wrote:How long do you guys think it will take for Bobby/Masai to realize that our ceiling with FVV/Siakam as the best players is next to nothing?

Sell high and draft talent is the move.


Pretty much this. Also FVV actively stand in the way of our rookie developing.
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Post#727 » by KL78192020 » Sat Jan 15, 2022 4:20 am

Chandan wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:How long do you guys think it will take for Bobby/Masai to realize that our ceiling with FVV/Siakam as the best players is next to nothing?

Sell high and draft talent is the move.


Pretty much this. Also FVV actively stand in the way of our rookie developing.


Plus this team won't be going anywhere when he gets his max contract of around 5/170 next summer. They're gona be in cap hell after his next deal.
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Re: Tank World Order (7.0) 

Post#728 » by Pooh_Jeter » Sat Jan 15, 2022 4:28 am

KL78192020 wrote:
Chandan wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:How long do you guys think it will take for Bobby/Masai to realize that our ceiling with FVV/Siakam as the best players is next to nothing?

Sell high and draft talent is the move.


Pretty much this. Also FVV actively stand in the way of our rookie developing.


Plus this team won't be going anywhere when he gets his max contract of around 5/170 next summer. They're gona be in cap hell after his next deal.


It's a good thing Masai was able to use cap space this year to secure Goran Dragic.
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Re: Tank World Order (7.0) 

Post#729 » by 720 » Sat Jan 15, 2022 4:29 am

KL78192020 wrote:
Chandan wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:How long do you guys think it will take for Bobby/Masai to realize that our ceiling with FVV/Siakam as the best players is next to nothing?

Sell high and draft talent is the move.


Pretty much this. Also FVV actively stand in the way of our rookie developing.


Plus this team won't be going anywhere when he gets his max contract of around 5/170 next summer. They're gona be in cap hell after his next deal.

I think Masai is going to overpay him just to retain control and then trade one of (if not both) Siakam and Fred at some point. Maybe he’ll keep one for fit. Either way it sucks because like Danchan said it reduces opportunities for Scottie as long as those two have big egos.
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Re: Tank World Order (7.0) 

Post#730 » by Chandan » Sat Jan 15, 2022 4:38 am

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KL78192020 wrote:
Chandan wrote:
Pretty much this. Also FVV actively stand in the way of our rookie developing.


Plus this team won't be going anywhere when he gets his max contract of around 5/170 next summer. They're gona be in cap hell after his next deal.

I think Masai is going to overpay him just to retain control and then trade one of (if not both) Siakam and Fred at some point. Maybe he’ll keep one for fit. Either way it sucks because like Danchan said it reduces opportunities for Scottie as long as those two have big egos.


i think masai is very intent on proving to the world that he can build a championship without big-name free agents coming here, and seem to be quite proud of his undrafted players that end up succeeding. I have my fingers crossed but i really think he's going to sign Fred to the max and we would have another 5 years of limited ceiling after this.

And it's not that only that big ego. The problem is that nurse + FVV combination is hell-bent on playing this current ugly brand of basketball. It's not surprising we are at the bottom of the league when it comes to assists. The game is so boring I barely manage to stay interested nowadays unless Barnes is playing.
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Re: Tank World Order (7.0) 

Post#731 » by LoveMyRaps » Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:20 am

Painful season.

Can't compete properly. Can't tank properly.

Need to buyers or sellers at the deadline. Can't stand pat, it'd be a disaster if we do.
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Re: Tank World Order (7.0) 

Post#732 » by Johnny Bball » Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:29 am

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Pooh_Jeter wrote:The important thing is that Scottie is still out there playing through 2 injuries and being the 5th option on offense. Really building his character.

Earning his stripes, sacrificing for the team like Freddy Allstar said.


Can you really not figure this out?
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Re: Tank World Order (7.0) 

Post#733 » by DelAbbot » Sat Jan 15, 2022 6:05 am

Just went through the GT. So much lol. Some of the shy TWO'ers finally spoke up. Even RalphWiggum broke down.
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Post#734 » by Badonkadonk » Sat Jan 15, 2022 6:56 am

Funniest thread by a longshot after losses, especially after losses. Thank you "two".
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Re: Tank World Order (7.0) 

Post#735 » by 720 » Sat Jan 15, 2022 7:04 am

DelAbbot wrote:
Jcity08 wrote:
720 wrote:Damn, where are all the team mediocre posters that were active in here the past couple days? :lol:

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The past few weeks were unreal in here.


I'm glad to see our boys come back

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Re: Tank World Order (7.0) 

Post#736 » by Yeezus_ » Sat Jan 15, 2022 7:49 am

Johnny Bball wrote:
720 wrote:
Pooh_Jeter wrote:The important thing is that Scottie is still out there playing through 2 injuries and being the 5th option on offense. Really building his character.

Earning his stripes, sacrificing for the team like Freddy Allstar said.


Can you really not figure this out?

He doesn't understand basketball lmao
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Re: Tank World Order (7.0) 

Post#737 » by God Squad » Sat Jan 15, 2022 11:58 am

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God Squad wrote:
Badonkadonk wrote:Yeah I'm a fan of Davis' game.

He's good, but there isn't a shot he wont take (in a bad way).

Won't take? What do you mean by that?

He chucks a lot instead of moving the ball around . He'll try and shoot himself out of a flunk.
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Re: Tank World Order (7.0) 

Post#738 » by ATLTimekeeper » Sat Jan 15, 2022 1:10 pm

Chandan wrote:
720 wrote:
KL78192020 wrote:
Plus this team won't be going anywhere when he gets his max contract of around 5/170 next summer. They're gona be in cap hell after his next deal.

I think Masai is going to overpay him just to retain control and then trade one of (if not both) Siakam and Fred at some point. Maybe he’ll keep one for fit. Either way it sucks because like Danchan said it reduces opportunities for Scottie as long as those two have big egos.


i think masai is very intent on proving to the world that he can build a championship without big-name free agents coming here, and seem to be quite proud of his undrafted players that end up succeeding. I have my fingers crossed but i really think he's going to sign Fred to the max and we would have another 5 years of limited ceiling after this.

And it's not that only that big ego. The problem is that nurse + FVV combination is hell-bent on playing this current ugly brand of basketball. It's not surprising we are at the bottom of the league when it comes to assists. The game is so boring I barely manage to stay interested nowadays unless Barnes is playing.


I'd be surprised if Fred can get a 5 year max. For the same reason Kyle Lowry could never get paid like he deserved until the very end (on shorter term). Still, I expect him to get paid and if he's one of the better players in the league (and he is) than it'll be money well spent. He's also a top 5 leader, after Chris Paul, Draymond, LeBron and Kyle. So, while his counting stats won't merit a max, his intangibles will make up for it.

You can never say never, but I think a good number of you need to start working on coping strategies to deal with more Fred.

I'm not as convinced that Pascal is a long-term piece, just because he occupies a lot of the same territory as Scottie. But, again, Scottie has to develop and prove he can take that spot. So far so good. Even in last night's crap effort he still mustered up a bit of rhythm.
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Re: Tank World Order (7.0) 

Post#739 » by ATLTimekeeper » Sat Jan 15, 2022 1:36 pm

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.500 team is doing what a .500 team does. Most of what tonight demonstrated is that the team needs a bench more than anything. They had 3 starters contribute and nothing else.


There's a lot of trade rumours bubbling, too. When the Raptors traded for Ibaka, those rumours were swirling for weeks. The team started losing and DeMar and Kyle openly lobbied in the media for 'help.' Wouldn't shock me if Fred and Pascal pull a similar tactic, because they know that Masai is stingy with FRPs and is unlikely to make any short-sighted moves.
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Re: Tank World Order (7.0) 

Post#740 » by will » Sat Jan 15, 2022 3:19 pm

tWo stand up!

Can't wait till the Raps add a player in the top 10 of the 2022 NBA draft.
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