blueseeka wrote:rapsrealm wrote:I got this from clutchfans, but an interesting perspective
1. Bosh wants the full max, and preferably the full full max as in SnT 6-year deal. This may or may not have been enough of a priority for him to turn down the Miami deal as a result of having to sacrifice this component.
2. Chicago is trying hard to get Wade to sign straight up and Bosh to sign via SnT but Toronto is proving unwilling in this regard.
3. Bosh would prefer to be with Wade or Lebron as his top choice for future destinations. The Rockets are either a backup plan or a pawn being used for leverage and nothing else.
4. Everything's being held up by Lebron who can't make up his mind yet. But Wade is getting impatient and cannot rely on Miami being able to add other talent if it currently only has two players on rookie contracts on its roster, which is why the whole Chicago thing has come up so suddenly for him.
Up until now everything makes sense, is corroborated by stuff going on in the real world. Everything else in SAS' blog about Bosh trying to make SnT to Houston work, or about NY being a realistic backup for Wade (+ Stoudemire + Johnson) seems like pure conjecture at this point.
I could just as easily make up some logical conclusions like this:
5. At dinner Bosh and Wade talked about what Morey had told him, that three superstars and 9 minimums on a team would not lead to a title, and agreed that Miami was less likely and less prepared for a run than Chicago was. They both agreed to try to give it a shot to take turn their three-man summit into a two-man package to the best team that could support it. And Lebron didn't help either by being such a whiny little beeotch at their last summit meeting that did or did not happen. He can take his sob story for leaving the Cavaliers somewhere, anywhere else.
6. Chicago was deemed the team most prepared to win a title with the insertion of Bosh and Wade, and Henry Thomas was the guy driving this line of thinking from the beginning since he works in Chicago and is a closet Bulls fan though he can't tell his clients that. Bulls management jumped at the chance which they had just one day prior thought passed them by, and all sides were near an agreement until...
7. Toronto spit in their face and told them on no uncertain terms to screw themselves if Deng was their best offer for the SnT. Chicago reacted by hitting the phones hard, looking anywhere for someone that could take Deng off their hands the way Hinrich was moved. Hence that Portland rumor of Deng for Przybilla and Bayless. Chicago went to tell Toronto about the deal and got another flat out rejection since Przybilla and Bayless are even scrubbier than Deng (who isn't actually that scrubby but does make 12M per which would definitely harm a team trying to rebuild like the Raptors).
8. Chicago was left with no better options at the end of the night, and Bosh and Wade departed from the meeting with Henry Thomas and Bulls management without a commitment but a preliminary idea to start up negotiations again the next day with the Raptors and other teams to find a way to push through a SnT for Bosh.
9. Secretly after the meeting, the Bulls management decide to try to talk to Wade alone and let him know that Rose Wade Deng Gibson and Noah are still a stacked Eastern Conf team, and that by adding a non-max but still star-quality PF like Boozer or David Lee they could be just as much title contenders as any other. Hence the Lee rumors that have sprung up.
And that's where we are now. You have the entire story more or less, and you didn't need a faker like Stephen A Smith to fill in the gaps for you either. The Rockets are still #3 on Bosh's list behind Chicago and whichever team Lebron decides to go to. We have to hope that Chicago can't find any way to get Toronto to agree to the SnT, since everyone knows our offer is much better and that Toronto will be pushing Bosh to take the Houston deal. We also have to hope that Lebron doesn't sign somewhere that could put together a pretty good package to offer to Toronto in a SnT for Bosh. My current fear is New Jersey who could serve up Favors + expirings.
You would think that Bulls were prepared as it never seemed that the Raps would be interested in Deng with that contract. I love how Bosh is seems like the greedy one when i havent heard anything about a S&T mentioned for either Miami or or Cleveland. If all the above is true or close to the truth, it does seem like Chicago has no interest in giving up Noah. I would guess if it meant the difference between Bosh and Wade or the status quo, they would give up on Noah. Time will tell
Bulls fan here. Great read. Thanks for that. Some other notes:
- It has been reported that the Bulls can have Boozer if they want him.
- Bulls have been adamant about Noah being untouchable and the fact that the Bulls actually have a legit center is their #2 selling point (behind Rose) over Miami and NY. I'm pretty confident that there was never a chance that Noah was going to get traded.
- Kudos to the Raptors for sticking to their guns. It seems that Raptor fans were right that they did have leverage and would use it.
- Its odd, but it seems that NY and Miami are going around trying to convince max free agents to take less than the
5 year max. NY finally caved and gave it to Amare, but Miami may have blown a hole in their own foot with this tactic.
- Given all of that, I would be shocked at this point if Bosh went to Chicago. IMHO, it will be some combination of Lebron, Wade and Boozer with no sign and trades.
Good luck guys. I'm enjoying Miami and NY twisting in the wind. Hopefully it stays that way.