Kelly Olynyk is a top 5 pick

[MEDIC]

You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. The guy played his heart out and was getting the crap fouled outta him all game. Did you not see the flagrant foul committed on him? And he still finished with 26/9

Did you even read what I wrote? Or did you just not understand it?

What does playing his heart out have to do with having poor upper body strength? What does getting a flagrant foul have to do with poor upper body strength?

Needless to say, you're still an idiot.

HI!

Noah has gotten a lot bigger & stronger since he was in the NCAA. He needed to.

Noah ain't huge, but he looks like Arnold compared to Olynyk.

I have to agree with The Hater on this one. Olynyk has the skill, but he needs to add a lot of muscle/ strength to be a successful big man in the NBA. If not, he'll just become a skinny stretch big.

[gambler10]

You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. The guy played his heart out and was getting the crap fouled outta him all game. Did you not see the flagrant foul committed on him? And he still finished with 26/9

Did you even read what I wrote? Or did you just not understand it?

What does playing his heart out have to do with having poor upper body strength? What does getting a flagrant foul have to do with poor upper body strength?

Needless to say, you're still an idiot.

HI!

Noah also played for Florida who played in a lot harder of a conference than Gonzaga has ever played in. They also won two chamiponships and he was a big part of it, K.O flopped out in the 2nd round after being declared a #1 seed, they clearly didn't deserve that #1 seed over Duke (Big Duke fan here and they deserved it over a Gonzaga team that plays in a joke of a conference). No one has replied or brought up the fact that he hasn't played any one good on a consistent basis, his numbers are inflated because he plays junk teams 80% of the season, and his issues (turnovers and bad d) will only get worse once he plays some real competition. Dude will be out of the NBA in 3 years like I keep saying, any one who takes him as a lotto pick will regret it.

[basketball420]

I have seen him play quite a bit and have known him since he was a kid. I am still a bit surprised at what an amazing year he has had this season. I hope he exceeds all expectations. I think I would take him 10 - 19, he is good but does has a ceiling right now. As far as NBA comparisons I would say David Lee, Luis Scola but also think he is just scratching the surface on what he can be. Very skilled for his size because he grew a lot in high school but had guard skills.

I also love people who guarantee players will be this or that and state facts about players like he will be out of the league in 3 years guaranteed...you're full of ****. The draft is all about potential and is not an exact science.

[Just Win Baby]

Problem with Olynyk is that he is barely tested. He played well last night but Gonzaga lost. Who does Gonzaga play all season? No one. He is definitely skilled but there is just too much unknown with him.

[FlutieX]

He leads the NCAA in PER... That kind of defeats the belief he hasn't played well for a consistent length of time. His PER shows you can rely on him. Sure he might not be a star in the NBA but he has great skills for a big and isn't a stiff.

[gambler10]

I have seen him play quite a bit and have known him since he was a kid. I am still a bit surprised at what an amazing year he has had this season. I hope he exceeds all expectations. I think I would take him 10 - 19, he is good but does has a ceiling right now. As far as NBA comparisons I would say David Lee, Luis Scola but also think he is just scratching the surface on what he can be. Very skilled for his size because he grew a lot in high school but had guard skills.

I also love people who guarantee players will be this or that and state facts about players like he will be out of the league in 3 years guaranteed...you're full of ****. The draft is all about potential and is not an exact science.

If your going to call me out quote what I said. So you are biased because you have known him since he was a kid....I will take your thoughts on him with a grain of salt, very biased opinion. I have no bias, I have watched him play, I have seen the competition he has played, and I come to the conclusion that he will be out of the NBA in 3 years. How am i full of ****? It's my opinion based on what I have seen, who he is playing against, etc etc. I can also say you are full of **** because you know him and are biased, so maybe I will. You are full a ****, and doing your homework and realizing he hasn't played any one worth crap all year are good indications, plus his defense isn't good and he turns the ball over a ton against crappy talent. I stick by what I say, time will tell, and in a few years you can come back and make some excuses why he is playing in Spain or Italy

[gambler10]

He leads the NCAA in PER... That kind of defeats the belief he hasn't played well for a consistent length of time. His PER shows you can rely on him. Sure he might not be a star in the NBA but he has great skills for a big and isn't a stiff.

Or his PER shows he has played against a lot of bad teams??? Sorry if he played on Indiana or Duke he would not have the best PER in the country. He has had a great season and that is not up for debate. But people need to realize he hasn't been playing all season in the Big East or Big10. Damn he hasn't even played against teams that come from the Atlantic 10 conference. He played in a very weak ass WCC big factor all you guys are ignoring or not including because it makes his accomplishments a little less impressive

[The_Hater]

He leads the NCAA in PER... That kind of defeats the belief he hasn't played well for a consistent length of time. His PER shows you can rely on him. Sure he might not be a star in the NBA but he has great skills for a big and isn't a stiff.

Or his PER shows he has played against a lot of bad teams???

It's both. His PER wouldn't be as high in the big ten but it wouldn't drop like a rock either.

'The point I was trying to make with his lack of strength is that it's the only thing holding him back. The guy plays hard, he's very athletic for a 7 footer, he seems like a pretty smart player and he clearly has great skill for a 7 footer. But it's a war inside the key in the NBA and Olynyk isn't built to handle it. Yet. If he was much stronger right now they'd likely be talking about him as a top 3 pick instead of the middle of the 1st round.

But that's the great thing about his lack of stength, it's something that he can easy improve with added bulk and lots of hours in the weight room. He doesn't need to turn into Dwight Howard or even Tim Duncan but right now Chris Bosh would toss him around. And he can't battle inside the key and guard NBA 5's then suddenly he's nothing more than a stretch 4.

[Rapcity_11]

The Zags still played some decent teams...

Oklahoma, Illinois, Kansas St., Oklahoma st., Baylor

[The_Hater]

The Zags still played some decent teams...

Oklahoma, Illinois, Kansas St., Oklahoma st., Baylor

Due to the conference they play in, their schedule ranked only the 70th toughest in the NCAA's. They're stil a good team but it's hard to sugarcoat that for too ong.

[Rapcity_11]

The Zags still played some decent teams...

Oklahoma, Illinois, Kansas St., Oklahoma st., Baylor

Due to the conference they play in, their schedule ranked only the 70th toughest in the NCAA's. They're stil a good team but it's hard to sugarcoat that for too ong.

That's not sugarcoating anything. There's been numerous claims that the Zags played no decent/good teams.

Also, I have no idea why you would bring up their total schedule rank in a discussion about the best teams they've played?

[AttackTheRack]

Dude's an all right player. He can stick in the league as a reasonable option down the bench. He's got to work hard to be more than that. He's got skill, though. But that Zags team sucked. Never a threat to win it all.

[The_Hater]

The Zags still played some decent teams...

Oklahoma, Illinois, Kansas St., Oklahoma st., Baylor

Due to the conference they play in, their schedule ranked only the 70th toughest in the NCAA's. They're stil a good team but it's hard to sugarcoat that for too ong.

That's not sugarcoating anything. There's been numerous claims that the Zags played no decent/good teams.

Also, I have no idea why you would bring up their total schedule rank in a discussion about the best teams they've played?

I have no idea why you're getting so defensive.

[FluLikeSymptoms]

Is it too late to add a poll? Like 1-5, 6-10, 11-15, 15+?

[basketball420]

I have seen him play quite a bit and have known him since he was a kid. I am still a bit surprised at what an amazing year he has had this season. I hope he exceeds all expectations. I think I would take him 10 - 19, he is good but does has a ceiling right now. As far as NBA comparisons I would say David Lee, Luis Scola but also think he is just scratching the surface on what he can be. Very skilled for his size because he grew a lot in high school but had guard skills.

I also love people who guarantee players will be this or that and state facts about players like he will be out of the league in 3 years guaranteed...you're full of ****. The draft is all about potential and is not an exact science.

If your going to call me out quote what I said. So you are biased because you have known him since he was a kid....I will take your thoughts on him with a grain of salt, very biased opinion. I have no bias, I have watched him play, I have seen the competition he has played, and I come to the conclusion that he will be out of the NBA in 3 years. How am i full of ****? It's my opinion based on what I have seen, who he is playing against, etc etc. I can also say you are full of **** because you know him and are biased, so maybe I will. You are full a ****, and doing your homework and realizing he hasn't played any one worth crap all year are good indications, plus his defense isn't good and he turns the ball over a ton against crappy talent. I stick by what I say, time will tell, and in a few years you can come back and make some excuses why he is playing in Spain or Italy

Easy buddy If I was directly quoting you I would have used this amazing little feature. There are plenty of people in the last 8 pages that have acted like experts and they like you are full of **** and it's easy to say it like it's fact and you are wrong and if you read what I said you would see I said it's not an exact science and I have no clue how his game will translate into the NBA just hope it does, I know a lot of players from this area like Pangos, Wiggins, and pretty much most of the kids that have played high level in the last 10 - 20 years in Canada. I wish them all the best and have a bias as about as much as any Canadian wanting to see a Canadian kid do well. If you feel good about predicting doom and gloom and heaven forbid he only makes a 6 figure salary playing in ohhh NO Italy or Spain then yes come back in 3 years and rub it right in my face you basketball genius you !

[Norma Wick]

dont all the mock drafts have him going mid first round?

[Rapcity_11]

I have no idea why you're getting so defensive.

Ha, I wasn't. Anyway, for anybody interested here are Olynyk's averages against all the teams that made the tourney + Baylor - Southern:

23.5 PPG
8.6 RPG
57.6% FG
62.6% TS
27.5 MPG

[will]

His name is Kelly...that is all...

[duppyy]

His name is Kelly...that is all...

Solid argument.

[Rapcity_11]

For those crapping on Olynyk, do you guys have the same concerns about Cody Zeller?