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bradonlywins wrote:i bet more people streamed it than watched it on those special networks ...these channels are a joke showing curling wrestling and poker all the time
Rhettmatic wrote:These ratings are scary bad. The team is owned by media companies. Can't possibly see management keeping the status quo:@simmonssteve: Television ratings from opening night of each season. Leafs 2.3 million. Jays 1.4 million. Argos 673,000. Raptors 54,000. More in Sunday column
neurotik wrote:Raps Maniac wrote:Risk101 wrote:Inb4 the ass jokes.
But that's his downside.
No thats his backside.
Lowry's upside is mental and psychological.
AbC? wrote:As Raps fans we're used to crappy basketball but for some reason I find this current team just incredibly boring to watch. Tried to sit through first two games this season, stopped about half way through. Now imagine the casual fan tuning in to watch, not surprised by the viewership numbers.
raptorsfan24 wrote:AbC? wrote:As Raps fans we're used to crappy basketball but for some reason I find this current team just incredibly boring to watch. Tried to sit through first two games this season, stopped about half way through. Now imagine the casual fan tuning in to watch, not surprised by the viewership numbers.
This. Our team is not fun to watch at all, nobody wants to see Gay's scrub ass chuck 20+ shots per game.
Schadenfreude wrote:Centre Court wrote:IMO, these dismal ratings are Colangelo's legacy and the primary reason he was fired.
Over his tenure, Bryan talked a good game, but did nothing to build the Raptors brand in Toronto or across Canada. His team's were mediocre and there was nothing to make casual fans say 'I need to check out the Raptors'.
I went to the home opener with my son. The next day I asked him if he talked to anyone at high school about the Raps v Celtics game. His answer was 'no - no one cares about the Raptors.' Even my son, (who is a 6'2" starting small forward on his high school team) is more interested in the NHL than he is in the Raptors.
So after 19 seasons, the Raptors brand is pretty much irrelevant. Masai and Leiweke have their work cut out for them.
Mentioned it before, but the young people are the biggest problem that this team will face. A lot of people here fall into two categories: those who became fans when the team first came into existence (and are in the 30s or older) and those who were teens or pre-teens when the Carter era dawned (and are in their mid/late 20s) and became NBA fans and Raptors fans more or less simultaneously.
The majority from both of those groups are now lifers...we'll have the odd Raptors-related existential crisis, but won't break away to support another team. The next generation down, though, haven't been given any reason to consider themselves Raptors fans, much less committed ones. Even our brief ups during the Bosh era aren't the sort likely to cause thousands of kids to ride out the bad, and with it sometimes being easier to find games televised nationally in the States than Raptors contests, a great deal more likely have decided that they are fans of the Heat, or Thunder, or Bulls.
We need something big, something that causes all of those casual observers to care about the team in the short-term, but makes Raptors fanhood a point of pride even once the success recedes. We need, essentially, a rallying point, and for that we need to be really good, and do something really memorable. Marginal internal improvement and dunk contest wins ain't gonna do it.
mrsocko wrote:Seems like all 54,000 rap fan posts on this board. Insular little group aren't we. Let's have "bring a buddy to the broadcast day" and get the ratings up to 108,000 next time!
I used to watch with buddies in the Carter Bosh days. Now it's just me and a cold beer. My 10 year old son won't even watch with me since Bargnani left.
Now that's depressing.
bradonlywins wrote:mrsocko wrote:Seems like all 54,000 rap fan posts on this board. Insular little group aren't we. Let's have "bring a buddy to the broadcast day" and get the ratings up to 108,000 next time!
I used to watch with buddies in the Carter Bosh days. Now it's just me and a cold beer. My 10 year old son won't even watch with me since Bargnani left.
Now that's depressing.
He won't watch no more bc bargni left thats hilarious haha
5DOM wrote:Schadenfreude wrote:Centre Court wrote:IMO, these dismal ratings are Colangelo's legacy and the primary reason he was fired.
Over his tenure, Bryan talked a good game, but did nothing to build the Raptors brand in Toronto or across Canada. His team's were mediocre and there was nothing to make casual fans say 'I need to check out the Raptors'.
I went to the home opener with my son. The next day I asked him if he talked to anyone at high school about the Raps v Celtics game. His answer was 'no - no one cares about the Raptors.' Even my son, (who is a 6'2" starting small forward on his high school team) is more interested in the NHL than he is in the Raptors.
So after 19 seasons, the Raptors brand is pretty much irrelevant. Masai and Leiweke have their work cut out for them.
Mentioned it before, but the young people are the biggest problem that this team will face. A lot of people here fall into two categories: those who became fans when the team first came into existence (and are in the 30s or older) and those who were teens or pre-teens when the Carter era dawned (and are in their mid/late 20s) and became NBA fans and Raptors fans more or less simultaneously.
The majority from both of those groups are now lifers...we'll have the odd Raptors-related existential crisis, but won't break away to support another team. The next generation down, though, haven't been given any reason to consider themselves Raptors fans, much less committed ones. Even our brief ups during the Bosh era aren't the sort likely to cause thousands of kids to ride out the bad, and with it sometimes being easier to find games televised nationally in the States than Raptors contests, a great deal more likely have decided that they are fans of the Heat, or Thunder, or Bulls.
We need something big, something that causes all of those casual observers to care about the team in the short-term, but makes Raptors fanhood a point of pride even once the success recedes. We need, essentially, a rallying point, and for that we need to be really good, and do something really memorable. Marginal internal improvement and dunk contest wins ain't gonna do it.
I agree. Among the group you are talking about, I wouldn't be surprised if there are more Heat fans than Raptors fans. Drake's not gonna cut it unfortunately.
myzticle wrote:Even I found myself watching more of Leafs game than the Raptors game. This team is just not entertaining to watch.
Loud and clear message sent to Bell/Rogers, including the fact that the Heat game has hundreds of tickets still unsold. Start winning or Raptors will be in the level of TFC.
