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Re: Terrence Ross is unbelievable 

Post#101 » by MixxSRC » Fri Mar 7, 2014 10:27 pm

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MixxSRC wrote:Since the trade Ross is averaging. (40 gms): 12.5 ppg, 29.2 mpg, 10.6 FGA, 42% 3FG.
In his second year Demar was. 17ppg, 34.8 mpg, 14.1 FGA 46% FG

I think if Ross had as many shots and played as many minutes as Demar he would've been posting up similar numbers. But who knows


Demar was 2 years younger than Ross is now when he posted those stats.


yeah that's true. Demar didn't really improve that much in his 3rd or 4th year though. It's only this year that he made significant jump. If Ross can average 16-18 ppg with good efficiency and great defense I'll be happy.
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Re: Terrence Ross is unbelievable 

Post#102 » by fredericklove » Fri Mar 7, 2014 10:32 pm

We should promote Casey to the Director of Scouting, after all, he discovered Ross ;) Then we can get a new coach, it's a win win situation.
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Re: Terrence Ross is unbelievable 

Post#103 » by witnessraps » Fri Mar 7, 2014 10:33 pm

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Re: Terrence Ross is unbelievable 

Post#104 » by mrsocko » Fri Mar 7, 2014 10:38 pm

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Rapsfan4life wrote:You can put this in your sig, avatar whatever. Terrence ross will be the best SG in the NBA in a few years if he can stay healthy. I haven't seen anyone with his bounce, speed with the ball and going north/south, east/west with his size (he is almost on the same level as russell westbrook in terms of that). Once he puts on some more muscle and learns the game, add that with very good jumper only getting better, he will literally be unstoppable.


Demar gets to the line 7-8 times a game. Ross gets to the line 7-8 times a month.

Ross will not even be as good as Demar let alone the best SG in the league. Plus he is only a year younger than Demar. It's nice to see Ross making strides but he's got a PER of 12.00!

He could end up being a very useful player but not an allstar.
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Re: Terrence Ross is unbelievable 

Post#105 » by Indeed » Fri Mar 7, 2014 11:14 pm

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MixxSRC wrote:Since the trade Ross is averaging. (40 gms): 12.5 ppg, 29.2 mpg, 10.6 FGA, 42% 3FG.
In his second year Demar was. 17ppg, 34.8 mpg, 14.1 FGA 46% FG

I think if Ross had as many shots and played as many minutes as Demar he would've been posting up similar numbers. But who knows


Demar was 2 years younger than Ross is now when he posted those stats.


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PER: 12.1 TS: .554 eFG: .532 FTR: .128 ORB: 2.3 DRB: 11.7 AST: 5.6 STL: 1.5 BLK: 1.1 USG: 18.6 WS: 3.1
PER: 12.8 TS: .503 eFG: .435 FTR: .367 ORB: 2.1 DRB: 9.0 AST: 10.8 STL: 1.2 BLK: 0.6 USG: 25.0 WS: 2.5
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Post#106 » by Xepa777 » Fri Mar 7, 2014 11:17 pm

Dang! Missed my chance to post on page 1 of this epic troll thread for automatic And'1s!!!!

Totally said the Raptors wouldn't completely regret Drummond over Ross back during the Indy game! Timestamped baby!
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Post#107 » by ThomasMRiddle » Fri Mar 7, 2014 11:20 pm

Rapsfan4life wrote:You can put this in your sig, avatar whatever. Terrence ross will be the best SG in the NBA in a few years if he can stay healthy. I haven't seen anyone with his bounce, speed with the ball and going north/south, east/west with his size (he is almost on the same level as russell westbrook in terms of that). Once he puts on some more muscle and learns the game, add that with very good jumper only getting better, he will literally be unstoppable.


He can only win MVP if Toronto wins the East - which likely won't happen until after Durant signs.
Even then I'd argue that Durant would be more deserving.
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Re: Terrence Ross is unbelievable 

Post#108 » by mrsocko » Fri Mar 7, 2014 11:30 pm

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mrsocko wrote:
MixxSRC wrote:Since the trade Ross is averaging. (40 gms): 12.5 ppg, 29.2 mpg, 10.6 FGA, 42% 3FG.
In his second year Demar was. 17ppg, 34.8 mpg, 14.1 FGA 46% FG

I think if Ross had as many shots and played as many minutes as Demar he would've been posting up similar numbers. But who knows


Demar was 2 years younger than Ross is now when he posted those stats.


Age 22:
PER: 12.1 TS: .554 eFG: .532 FTR: .128 ORB: 2.3 DRB: 11.7 AST: 5.6 STL: 1.5 BLK: 1.1 USG: 18.6 WS: 3.1
PER: 12.8 TS: .503 eFG: .435 FTR: .367 ORB: 2.1 DRB: 9.0 AST: 10.8 STL: 1.2 BLK: 0.6 USG: 25.0 WS: 2.5


This is why Demar will consistently score over 20 points in his prime. Ross will never approach that. Guys who score 15 points a game as SG will never be considered the best SG in the league.

Look Ross can be a good SG and a great contributor to a team. But the OP is saying he is going to be the best. Go and see who are considered the best SG in the league. Wade and Harden - both live at the line. Demar is getting there at over a 40% clip now.

Demar has a chance to be the best SG in the league.

Ross has a chance to be the best 3 and D guy in the league or the best 6th man in the league. That is still a really good player.
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Post#109 » by Raps Militia » Fri Mar 7, 2014 11:35 pm

I've never seen so many skills in a player. Really.
I don't know if he will become a big star, what is certain is that T-Ross is a guy with a huge potential.
Is a great shooter, is an excellent defender, is very fast and athletic (one of the best athletes in the league), is able to attack the rim, is a smart guy and has a great vision of the game, is not selfish, and knows how to move the ball, he is capable of doing anything.
He must become constant, "just" this, if this happens, we will have a 20 (or more) points per game player. Book it.

51 points is not a joke and not even an exception.
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Post#110 » by Chriscross » Fri Mar 7, 2014 11:37 pm

I like both Ross and DeRozan but I don't see Ross coming remotely close to DeRozan offensively and defensively, DeRozan will not be at Ross level

Time to accept this. 8-)
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Post#111 » by Risk101 » Fri Mar 7, 2014 11:40 pm

Rapsfan4life wrote:You can put this in your sig, avatar whatever. Terrence ross will be the best SG in the NBA in a few years if he can stay healthy. I haven't seen anyone with his bounce, speed with the ball and going north/south, east/west with his size (he is almost on the same level as russell westbrook in terms of that). Once he puts on some more muscle and learns the game, add that with very good jumper only getting better, he will literally be unstoppable.


Or he could be the next Gerald Green. Here's hoping he's not. Cheers
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Post#112 » by Indeed » Fri Mar 7, 2014 11:53 pm

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Indeed wrote:
mrsocko wrote:
Demar was 2 years younger than Ross is now when he posted those stats.


Age 22:
PER: 12.1 TS: .554 eFG: .532 FTR: .128 ORB: 2.3 DRB: 11.7 AST: 5.6 STL: 1.5 BLK: 1.1 USG: 18.6 WS: 3.1
PER: 12.8 TS: .503 eFG: .435 FTR: .367 ORB: 2.1 DRB: 9.0 AST: 10.8 STL: 1.2 BLK: 0.6 USG: 25.0 WS: 2.5


This is why Demar will consistently score over 20 points in his prime. Ross will never approach that. Guys who score 15 points a game as SG will never be considered the best SG in the league.

Look Ross can be a good SG and a great contributor to a team. But the OP is saying he is going to be the best. Go and see who are considered the best SG in the league. Wade and Harden - both live at the line. Demar is getting there at over a 40% clip now.

Demar has a chance to be the best SG in the league.

Ross has a chance to be the best 3 and D guy in the league or the best 6th man in the league. That is still a really good player.


Sorry, but the reason why DeRozan is constantly scoring 20 points is this instead.
Someone with a higher TS% would score less? The only reason is he is not getting the same number of possession.
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Post#113 » by Undefeated » Fri Mar 7, 2014 11:56 pm

Indeed wrote:I think Ross can develop two (spin move and something). However, his shoulder and chest are not faking enough, which may limit him only with ball handling or lower body fakes.


He already has a go-to-move; UTEP/2-step crossover.

I actually think he does a great job of selling his cross with his body using his shoulder leaning hard in one direction then making a quick change of direction when his man bites on the lean for a pull-up jumper. He's also gets really wide on his crossover dribble to set up his man. To explode past his defender his footwork has to improve because too often he gets his feet side-by-side kicking them together before exploding ahead with an escape dribble. If he can tweak his false/plyo step he'd be a lot more effective getting separation or blowing by his defender.
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Post#114 » by UnderdogRaptors » Sat Mar 8, 2014 4:27 am

hillbilly hare wrote:
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A superstar? Relax there, you guys use that term so loosely in here.

Ross will grow to be a very good player BUT if he wants to reach superstar status he needs to live at the ft line, and thats somethimg he has never shown even during his college days. In order to live at the line, he's gotta develop some handles too, something he doesnt have yet.

Derozan early on was afraid of contact and couldn't take it to the rack consistently now he's getting to the Ft line at a high clip, Ross defense is already better than DD and he will learn from his work ethic and eventually become a superstar like Derozan did.


Wow.

Just wow. So Demar is already a superstar. And Ross will become one. Let's get the message out, see if Masai can trade Ross for a pick at draft time and get Wiggins.

Seriously, I'll just keep harping on Ross until he takes his game up to average, let alone star, let alone superstar. I ragged on DD for years, like lots of us, saying "all" he had to do was develop an outside shot, preferably a 3pt shot, to be a borderline All-star. And that panned out. As to Ross, he looks a lot more like Gerald Green than D-Wade at this point. But "all" he has to do is improve his 3pt shooting, defense, dribbling and passing, and he'll be a borderline star.

did you see what DD did against GSW? closed the game like true superstars are supposed to do but Ross right now is a excellent defender and will eventually be an elite shut-down defender, his 3pt shooting is elite, he just needs to work on his offensive repertoire and not avoid contact when he takes it to the rack..Silk Road already has a nice tear drop and crossover, hes also a very underrated passer. IMO no doubt he will be a superstar.
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Post#115 » by StatLine » Sat Mar 8, 2014 4:52 am

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Post#116 » by T-d0t » Sat Mar 8, 2014 4:52 am

Trey Ross is money.
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Post#117 » by Hero » Sat Mar 8, 2014 4:56 am

Raps Militia wrote:I've never seen so many skills in a player. Really.


Can you elaborate on this please?
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Post#118 » by hillbilly hare » Sat Mar 8, 2014 7:27 am

UnderdogRaptors wrote:
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UnderdogRaptors wrote:Derozan early on was afraid of contact and couldn't take it to the rack consistently now he's getting to the Ft line at a high clip, Ross defense is already better than DD and he will learn from his work ethic and eventually become a superstar like Derozan did.


Wow.

Just wow. So Demar is already a superstar. And Ross will become one. Let's get the message out, see if Masai can trade Ross for a pick at draft time and get Wiggins.

Seriously, I'll just keep harping on Ross until he takes his game up to average, let alone star, let alone superstar. I ragged on DD for years, like lots of us, saying "all" he had to do was develop an outside shot, preferably a 3pt shot, to be a borderline All-star. And that panned out. As to Ross, he looks a lot more like Gerald Green than D-Wade at this point. But "all" he has to do is improve his 3pt shooting, defense, dribbling and passing, and he'll be a borderline star.

did you see what DD did against GSW? closed the game like true superstars are supposed to do but Ross right now is a excellent defender and will eventually be an elite shut-down defender, his 3pt shooting is elite, he just needs to work on his offensive repertoire and not avoid contact when he takes it to the rack..Silk Road already has a nice tear drop and crossover, hes also a very underrated passer. IMO no doubt he will be a superstar.


Yes, Ross is a superstar when he scores 51 points. But for the other 81 games, less so.

The word "superstar" is being tossed around pretty freely, though I still get the feeling deep down that some Green Font is missing in these posts. To put some perspective on it, who are superstars in today's game? Or at least, superstar wings? Lebron, Durant, D-Wade/Kobe when they're healthy, are the established superstars. The new kids in town: George, Curry, Harden. No, not Demar. Not yet. Ross? Who's he going to be equal to or better than? George? Maybe the best comparison, i.e. long, athletic wings. That might be the best model to look at. Like George in his first couple years, Ross has to take every part of his game up two notches. Ross's alleged great D is still a work in progress, I don't see the skills to ever become a playmaker like George, he's got a good shot so he could take his shooting to the next level.

So okay, I'll say the same thing I always said about Demar: he's got the body, can he put it all together? Can he improve each part of his game at least a little, year by year? If so, who knows. But Demar had the luxury of starting the development process 2.5 years younger.
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Re: Terrence Ross is unbelievable 

Post#119 » by Randle McMurphy » Sat Mar 8, 2014 7:40 am

Raps Militia wrote:I've never seen so many skills in a player. Really.

Nothing against Ross, but you should probably watch some more basketball then.
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Re: Terrence Ross is unbelievable 

Post#120 » by pufonD » Sat Mar 8, 2014 8:00 am

All aboard the bandwagon!

Seriously i wonder if the draft threat is still somewhere in the depths of this board, where everyone is 'OMG WHY NO DRUMMOND?' bring it back just for teh luls

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