Our team is Kyle Lowry, and he is injured /hurt

[DonMega]

As I said in the other thread, our coach is terrible. He should put in the same lineup that we had during the season that murdered the pacers by 20 pts. The one without Lowry and derozan. Notice how the other 2 wins over pacers were very close games. Also JJ needs to start against pg.

[vincecarter55]

Our team is kyle lowry and yet people seem content to give derozan the max in the offseason... idiots.

[SaveTheHens]

Man what a stupid fan base here on realGM. Lowry has a good game in the regular season & he's touted our best player to ever play the game. Now he's just called a choker. We're not close to a 56 win team without Lowry, he is our elite talent & he hasn't been the same since he injured his elbow in London & has had it irritated since. The crazy wins agains the best teams we won this year were because of Lowry & his ability to take over the moment.

This isn't about excuses, it's about awareness of what we're dealing with & how to move forward. We've seen what an unhealthy Lowry will do last year, he'll play like he's a healthy Lowry but miss most his shots. That's where Casey needs to smarten up, have awareness of what's going on & let Cojo, Carroll, JV, 2Pat, & even Scola win us this series. No stupid mantra's about "where our allstars go, we go". All we can hope for is to ease Lowry back into his game, because come the 2nd round his performance is what will win us the series (again, we are NOT the same team without Lowry, we can't beat a mid-pack East team without Lowry because Lowry is the motor that wins us games against winning teams). This series we can rely on a lot of options but we need to change things up, ZERO hero ball, especially from DD. Lowry needs to shoot but he can't be our leading shot-taker until he proves he's capable of making them again. Ball movement & defending Paul George needs to be our focus. I wouldn't mind seeing a lineup of Cojo or Kyle, Ross, Johnson, Carroll & Biyombo to try and shut down George since any switch will still have Ross or Carroll on him, and if he gets a drive in Biyombo will meet him at the rim.

This series is ours to win, with or without or allstars help, but it comes down to the coaches ability to recognize what is happening around him & to have the balls to go with his instincts. If Lowry does not play up to his standards earlier this season, our chances of winning the 2nd round are very diminished. If Lowry can't make momentum-changing 3's, this team is the David to the Goliath of Miami.Right now lets worry about that later & try to win this very winnable series. If Casey has DD guarding George next game I will lose start looking for "fire Casey" petitions again.

[SaveTheHens]

Our team is kyle lowry and yet people seem content to give derozan the max in the offseason... idiots.

Derozan is not a bad player to give the max too. A year later it's a contract that we can move for more assets. DD is not a leader, but he is a good beta-male to keep the pressure off the leader. I agree that Lowry is our team though

[vincecarter55]

Our team is kyle lowry and yet people seem content to give derozan the max in the offseason... idiots.

Derozan is not a bad player to give the max too. A year later it's a contract that we can move for more assets. DD is not a leader, but he is a good beta-male to keep the pressure off the leader. I agree that Lowry is our team though

I don't think that derozan on a max contract is going to be easily moved. At this point he is in his prime and he's going to start experiencing regression. Name me some teams that you think would want Derozan on a max contract?

[SaveTheHens]

Our team is kyle lowry and yet people seem content to give derozan the max in the offseason... idiots.

Derozan is not a bad player to give the max too. A year later it's a contract that we can move for more assets. DD is not a leader, but he is a good beta-male to keep the pressure off the leader. I agree that Lowry is our team though

I don't think that derozan on a max contract is going to be easily moved. At this point he is in his prime and he's going to start experiencing regression. Name me some teams that you think would want Derozan on a max contract?

Salary cap this season is about 92 million, next year it may be 106 million. A lot of extra cash, and max contracts will go for more. DD's 25 will be a value deal at that time. The Lakers are the team that's most interested in Derozan right now, but there's always other teams we can move him to. Masai has turned junk into jewelry before, but with Derozan at least the talent is actually there. A team like NY may want him, hell maybe even Brooklyn (just not sure what they have to offer us back). A lot of teams would take him on because he's a 24/4/4 guy who's been improving every year & he's played a big role for a top 4 team in the league. Unless he got injured, DD at the max this year is easily market value & we can move him for other assets later.

[Johnny Bball]

Our team is kyle lowry and yet people seem content to give derozan the max in the offseason... idiots.

Derozan is not a bad player to give the max too. A year later it's a contract that we can move for more assets. DD is not a leader, but he is a good beta-male to keep the pressure off the leader. I agree that Lowry is our team though

I don't think that derozan on a max contract is going to be easily moved. At this point he is in his prime and he's going to start experiencing regression. Name me some teams that you think would want Derozan on a max contract?

[hsb]

Looking at the game tape. It's more about his decision making. Pacers decide who to cheat off of and collapse when he's driving. KL needs to do a better job reading defenses and getting the open player to initiate ball movement.

A lot of his misses are simply from trying to do everything against multiple players rather than realizing why he has multiple players on him. Even with DD on the floor he doesn't look for others until it's too late. Similar for DD but at least he has the excuse that their best defender is on him.

[Bomboclot416]

Lowry isn't injured...he's just not a prime time player...Vince was 20 times the player Lowry was

[DonMega]

Lowry isn't injured...he's just not a prime time player...Vince was 20 times the player Lowry was

The best part was when VC threw the towel in and told media he would stop dunking and start missing all shots unless he got traded. Yep 20 times better than lowry. Go back to the team you followed when the raptors sucked, we don't need you here.

[Headliner]

With Derozan, we need to find our Jerry Stackhouse trade. Stackhouse and Derozan are very similar players, and both choked in the playoffs, the 50+ win Pistons exploded when they moved him for Rip. That's what we need to do.
One idea that might be interesting, is something like Derozan and our pick + Clippers pick for Jimmy Butler. Or, Messy could find a gem that he'd like to polish and trade Demar for that + something.

[alienchild]

With Derozan, we need to find our Jerry Stackhouse trade. Stackhouse and Derozan are very similar players, and both choked in the playoffs, the 50+ win Pistons exploded when they moved him for Rip. That's what we need to do.
One idea that might be interesting, is something like Derozan and our pick + Clippers pick for Jimmy Butler. Or, Messy could find a gem that he'd like to polish and trade Demar for that + something.

Oladipo.

[Mikistan]

Lowry isn't injured...he's just not a prime time player...Vince was 20 times the player Lowry was

The best part was when VC threw the towel in and told media he would stop dunking and start missing all shots unless he got traded. Yep 20 times better than lowry. Go back to the team you followed when the raptors sucked, we don't need you here.

You didn't see Lowry throw the towel in last year's playoffs?

How often do we need this story about injuries, yawn.

[vincecarter55]

Derozan is not a bad player to give the max too. A year later it's a contract that we can move for more assets. DD is not a leader, but he is a good beta-male to keep the pressure off the leader. I agree that Lowry is our team though

I don't think that derozan on a max contract is going to be easily moved. At this point he is in his prime and he's going to start experiencing regression. Name me some teams that you think would want Derozan on a max contract?

Solid response

[kidr1211]

Our team is kyle lowry and yet people seem content to give derozan the max in the offseason... idiots.

Derozan is not a bad player to give the max too. A year later it's a contract that we can move for more assets. DD is not a leader, but he is a good beta-male to keep the pressure off the leader. I agree that Lowry is our team though

I don't think that derozan on a max contract is going to be easily moved. At this point he is in his prime and he's going to start experiencing regression. Name me some teams that you think would want Derozan on a max contract?

lol demar is 26. Usually prime years are from around 27-30 and then you start seeing regression. You are delusional if you think demar is going to regress because of age any time soon

[vincecarter55]

Derozan is not a bad player to give the max too. A year later it's a contract that we can move for more assets. DD is not a leader, but he is a good beta-male to keep the pressure off the leader. I agree that Lowry is our team though

I don't think that derozan on a max contract is going to be easily moved. At this point he is in his prime and he's going to start experiencing regression. Name me some teams that you think would want Derozan on a max contract?

lol demar is 26. Usually prime years are from around 27-30 and then you start seeing regression. You are delusional if you think demar is going to regress because of age any time soon

His game is dependent on driving and getting to the rim. He will not age well. I don't think we'll see regression in the next year or two but wouldn't be surprised if it happens after that. Regardless... YOU are delusional if you think he is going to get much better. This is who derozan is and he isn't worth the max... not even close, not even with the cap going up.

[kidr1211]

I don't think that derozan on a max contract is going to be easily moved. At this point he is in his prime and he's going to start experiencing regression. Name me some teams that you think would want Derozan on a max contract?

lol demar is 26. Usually prime years are from around 27-30 and then you start seeing regression. You are delusional if you think demar is going to regress because of age any time soon

His game is dependent on driving and getting to the rim. He will not age well. I don't think we'll see regression in the next year or two but wouldn't be surprised if it happens after that. Regardless... YOU are delusional if you think he is going to get much better. This is who derozan is and he isn't worth the max... not even close, not even with the cap going up.

I never said he was worth the max. Derozan isn't going to regress a huge amount by the time he's 30 though. Dude is 26 i don't expect him to take a huge leap but he can still get better over the next 4 years

[slothrop8]

Lowry is hurt - he aggravated his elbow against Orlando on March 20th and sat out the next game because of it. It's documented - you can look it up. Since that Orlando game - Kyle has shot 31.9% FG, 33.3% from 3, and 63% FT. Those are the shooting numbers of a guy with a bad shooting arm. And those don't count yesterday's brick laying.

So, since he's hurt - Kyle needs to play much smarter. No jacking 3s on odd man breaks in transition. That shot is fine when's he's healthy and making - no fine when he can't shoot properly. He needs to not be taking 7 threes like he did yesterday, he shouldn't be taking 14 shots like he did yesterday. Run the team, move the ball, make good decision, pick and choose spots for your offense.

He's obvioulsy hurt - but he also did not play smart yesterday. He needs to stay within himself. There is enough talent surrounding him to win this series - but he's got to realize what his current limitations are and play much, much smarter. Kyle now at 35% FG for his playoff career, Demar at 38% FG - both need to settle down next game. Choose their shots much more wisely, drive to make dump off and kick outs - let the game come to them - stop forcing everything. If they want to win, they need to realize their limitations and play within them.

[SaveTheHens]

I don't think that derozan on a max contract is going to be easily moved. At this point he is in his prime and he's going to start experiencing regression. Name me some teams that you think would want Derozan on a max contract?

lol demar is 26. Usually prime years are from around 27-30 and then you start seeing regression. You are delusional if you think demar is going to regress because of age any time soon

His game is dependent on driving and getting to the rim. He will not age well. I don't think we'll see regression in the next year or two but wouldn't be surprised if it happens after that. Regardless... YOU are delusional if you think he is going to get much better. This is who derozan is and he isn't worth the max... not even close, not even with the cap going up.

How is he not worth the max? Other teams will want him. He has improved statistically every season & added more moves & efficiency each offseason. He will continually improve for at least 2 more years, yet we can trade him after next year if we didn't like his presence on the team. It's not like our cash can get in a better star, so for now it's better to hold on to that asset rather than give it up for nothing.