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Re: 2019 Official Media Day & Training Camp Thread (TODAY @ 10 AM) 

Post#101 » by TheAlchemist » Sun Sep 29, 2019 9:16 am

Inevitable wrote:Incredibly disappointing the team is holding training camp in Quebec, the team promotes diversity and then goes and puts money into a province that penalized freedom of religion and expression?


Side note but I'd love to see Quebec go independent and try to thrive as an economy between the US and Canada. Lol.

They'd collapse on their own.

And yeah I mean boycotting a whole province is extreme man. Dunno what you're expecting. If the Raptors did that they'd look much worst then anyone else. It wont happen.
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Post#102 » by tecumseh18 » Sun Sep 29, 2019 10:50 am

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Inevitable wrote:Incredibly disappointing the team is holding training camp in Quebec, the team promotes diversity and then goes and puts money into a province that penalized freedom of religion and expression?


There's good Frenchies too


There's very fine people on both sides.
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Post#103 » by The Flying Gent » Sun Sep 29, 2019 12:09 pm

Inevitable wrote:Incredibly disappointing the team is holding training camp in Quebec, the team promotes diversity and then goes and puts money into a province that penalized freedom of religion and expression?


Diversity is about people, not how beliefs are treated in certain circumstances.

Religions faith is a necessarily bat**** insane collection of cult beliefs and the ones that are socially acceptable are lucky to be so only because they are so deeply and inextricably muddled with national histories and foundations. If beliefs of the same level of ridiculousness and credibility arise today, as they often do, they generally get the derision and rejection they deserve, just like i would if no one ever heard of Christianity and then suddenly i'm going off about resurrections and virgin births. No religion of any kind has any place being present or sanctioned in our social institutions.

As such the Quebec laws are good laws. Even if it's likely it was a bunch of dip**** Islamophobes that came up with them. A broken clock is right twice a day.
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Re: 2019 Official Media Day & Training Camp Thread (TODAY @ 10 AM) 

Post#104 » by Kevin Willis » Sun Sep 29, 2019 12:29 pm

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Inevitable wrote:Incredibly disappointing the team is holding training camp in Quebec, the team promotes diversity and then goes and puts money into a province that penalized freedom of religion and expression?


There's good Frenchies too


There's very fine people on both sides.


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Post#105 » by Kevin Willis » Sun Sep 29, 2019 12:33 pm

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Inevitable wrote:Incredibly disappointing the team is holding training camp in Quebec, the team promotes diversity and then goes and puts money into a province that penalized freedom of religion and expression?


Diversity is about people, not how beliefs are treated in certain circumstances.

Religions faith is a necessarily bat**** insane collection of cult beliefs and the ones that are socially acceptable are lucky to be so only because they are so deeply and inextricably muddled with national histories and foundations. If beliefs of the same level of ridiculousness and credibility arise today, as they often do, they generally get the derision and rejection they deserve, just like i would if no one ever heard of Christianity and then suddenly i'm going off about resurrections and virgin births. No religion of any kind has any place being present or sanctioned in our social institutions.

As such the Quebec laws are good laws. Even if it's likely it was a bunch of dip**** Islamophobes that came up with them. A broken clock is right twice a day.


-1. I suggest you read / listen Jordan Peterson 12 rules for life to see the importance of religion in building our society, laws and regulations. Also let's not get this thread off topic.

I saw some video of OG at Rico's and he looked the same. He must have really improved the last couple of months.
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Post#106 » by Danny1616 » Sun Sep 29, 2019 1:53 pm

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Inevitable wrote:Incredibly disappointing the team is holding training camp in Quebec, the team promotes diversity and then goes and puts money into a province that penalized freedom of religion and expression?


Diversity is about people, not how beliefs are treated in certain circumstances.

Religions faith is a necessarily bat**** insane collection of cult beliefs and the ones that are socially acceptable are lucky to be so only because they are so deeply and inextricably muddled with national histories and foundations. If beliefs of the same level of ridiculousness and credibility arise today, as they often do, they generally get the derision and rejection they deserve, just like i would if no one ever heard of Christianity and then suddenly i'm going off about resurrections and virgin births. No religion of any kind has any place being present or sanctioned in our social institutions.

As such the Quebec laws are good laws. Even if it's likely it was a bunch of dip**** Islamophobes that came up with them. A broken clock is right twice a day.


-1. I suggest you read / listen Jordan Peterson 12 rules for life to see the importance of religion in building our society, laws and regulations. Also let's not get this thread off topic.

I saw some video of OG at Rico's and he looked the same. He must have really improved the last couple of months.


Jordan Peterson should stick to what he knows - psychology. He's out of his element when he delves into political and sociological history.

Peterson also advocated for forced monogamy, lol. Dude acts like the 1950s was the golden age of society, but it was far from that.
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Post#107 » by Sandman88 » Sun Sep 29, 2019 2:21 pm

Inevitable wrote:Incredibly disappointing the team is holding training camp in Quebec, the team promotes diversity and then goes and puts money into a province that penalized freedom of religion and expression?


Who gives a ****? Enjoy the coverage and the upcoming season ffs
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Re: 2019 Official Media Day & Training Camp Thread (TODAY @ 10 AM) 

Post#108 » by Sandman88 » Sun Sep 29, 2019 2:22 pm

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Inevitable wrote:Incredibly disappointing the team is holding training camp in Quebec, the team promotes diversity and then goes and puts money into a province that penalized freedom of religion and expression?


Who gives a ****? Enjoy the coverage and the upcoming season ffs


Also, Quebec is a beautiful province
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Post#109 » by The Flying Gent » Sun Sep 29, 2019 2:23 pm

Jordan Peterson should stick to a dumpster.
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Post#110 » by Morse Code » Sun Sep 29, 2019 2:33 pm

There's always that one pompous jackass that can't stand that someone else believes in something they don't, and can't help but **** on them for it. **** you.
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Re: 2019 Official Media Day & Training Camp Thread (TODAY @ 10 AM) 

Post#111 » by 2019nbachamps » Sun Sep 29, 2019 2:42 pm

bape_lovers wrote:Go away bandwagon

2019nbachamps wrote:Lowry is 33, declining, a good 20 pounds overweight and yet some dudes here want to lock him up for 3 more years. Thank God for Masai.


Lets overpay out of loyalty rather than for basketball reasons. While we're at it, lets bring back Vince and Oliver Miller. Only justifiable reason to keep Lowry is if he's willing to take a huge discount.
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Post#112 » by Son Goku 25 » Sun Sep 29, 2019 2:50 pm

I dont take OG seriously when he says that sort of stuff. He's a joker in his own head and I just don't know if he has that same willingness to improve like a Siakam and Kawhi so I'm curious to see how he does this year.
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Post#113 » by Oakville_Raptor » Sun Sep 29, 2019 3:52 pm

Lowry doesn't look overweight :dontknow:
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Post#114 » by Dennis 37 » Sun Sep 29, 2019 4:01 pm

TheAlchemist wrote:
Inevitable wrote:Incredibly disappointing the team is holding training camp in Quebec, the team promotes diversity and then goes and puts money into a province that penalized freedom of religion and expression?


Side note but I'd love to see Quebec go independent and try to thrive as an economy between the US and Canada. Lol.

They'd collapse on their own.

And yeah I mean boycotting a whole province is extreme man. Dunno what you're expecting. If the Raptors did that they'd look much worst then anyone else. It wont happen.


Quebec is a product of its history. So not to derail, read if you wish
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Is it an ideal situation? No, because I don't believe there is a compromise between secular and religious rights. Someone is going to feel their rights are being ignored. It is a much better solution than just singling out a specific garment, worn by a small number of people affiliated with a specific religion. That would be bad.

As an aside, when I first started teaching decades ago, it was in a rural hamlet in North Western Ontario near the Minnesota/Ontario border. I was told, "It will not go well for you if you are seen drinking in local bars or restaurants. Do your drinking in private." This was in the 1980s. People, in public service, often have different expectations placed on them the rest of society may not even know about.


I agree that the Raptors would look bad to make any issue of this. It is a minefield.
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Re: 2019 Official Media Day & Training Camp Thread (TODAY @ 10 AM) 

Post#115 » by Kevin Willis » Sun Sep 29, 2019 4:25 pm

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The Flying Gent wrote:
Diversity is about people, not how beliefs are treated in certain circumstances.

Religions faith is a necessarily bat**** insane collection of cult beliefs and the ones that are socially acceptable are lucky to be so only because they are so deeply and inextricably muddled with national histories and foundations. If beliefs of the same level of ridiculousness and credibility arise today, as they often do, they generally get the derision and rejection they deserve, just like i would if no one ever heard of Christianity and then suddenly i'm going off about resurrections and virgin births. No religion of any kind has any place being present or sanctioned in our social institutions.

As such the Quebec laws are good laws. Even if it's likely it was a bunch of dip**** Islamophobes that came up with them. A broken clock is right twice a day.


-1. I suggest you read / listen Jordan Peterson 12 rules for life to see the importance of religion in building our society, laws and regulations. Also let's not get this thread off topic.

I saw some video of OG at Rico's and he looked the same. He must have really improved the last couple of months.


Jordan Peterson should stick to what he knows - psychology. He's out of his element when he delves into political and sociological history.

Peterson also advocated for forced monogamy, lol. Dude acts like the 1950s was the golden age of society, but it was far from that.


I was trying to not go off topic and I failed... Some of the things Peterson says you obviously question and say, 'nah I don't think so.' But on the topic of religion - Christian, Judaism, Islam it doesn't matter - forming the base of society values I agree with. Religion is not perfect but it should be respected is my point.
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Re: 2019 Official Media Day & Training Camp Thread (TODAY @ 10 AM) 

Post#116 » by ItsDanger » Sun Sep 29, 2019 5:13 pm

For those interested, TSN website has short interviews with most of the non-starters.
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Post#117 » by right between the eyes » Sun Sep 29, 2019 5:27 pm

2019nbachamps wrote:
bape_lovers wrote:Go away bandwagon

2019nbachamps wrote:Lowry is 33, declining, a good 20 pounds overweight and yet some dudes here want to lock him up for 3 more years. Thank God for Masai.


Lets overpay out of loyalty rather than for basketball reasons. While we're at it, lets bring back Vince and Oliver Miller. Only justifiable reason to keep Lowry is if he's willing to take a huge discount.


If you've followed the team for more than a year you'd be aware that we didn't have much stability in the past ..re-signing Lowry shows loyalty and stability which is good for this team ..he could potentially be part of the coaching staff after he retires...
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Post#118 » by Boogie! » Sun Sep 29, 2019 5:42 pm

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The Flying Gent wrote:
Inevitable wrote:Incredibly disappointing the team is holding training camp in Quebec, the team promotes diversity and then goes and puts money into a province that penalized freedom of religion and expression?


Diversity is about people, not how beliefs are treated in certain circumstances.

Religions faith is a necessarily bat**** insane collection of cult beliefs and the ones that are socially acceptable are lucky to be so only because they are so deeply and inextricably muddled with national histories and foundations. If beliefs of the same level of ridiculousness and credibility arise today, as they often do, they generally get the derision and rejection they deserve, just like i would if no one ever heard of Christianity and then suddenly i'm going off about resurrections and virgin births. No religion of any kind has any place being present or sanctioned in our social institutions.

As such the Quebec laws are good laws. Even if it's likely it was a bunch of dip**** Islamophobes that came up with them. A broken clock is right twice a day.


-1. I suggest you read / listen Jordan Peterson 12 rules for life to see the importance of religion in building our society, laws and regulations. Also let's not get this thread off topic.

I saw some video of OG at Rico's and he looked the same. He must have really improved the last couple of months.


I feel like it's all lip service tbh. I've always thought og was overrated, but well see.
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