Can we please talk about what Adrian griffin ex has excused of him

[ForeverTFC]

People stay with abusers for many reasons. It's a psychological mind ****. You're sounding incredibly ignorant.

And if she is right, and he didn't pay child support for long stretches, then yes... she should get that money. Money that she shelled out to support THEIR children.

His argument is pointless, if not contradictory. She stayed with him for the money but is now getting in the way of him getting more money that she would be entitled to? And what if she did stay for the money? Why does that make any difference?

MLSE/Raptors are a good organization. I would expect that they are looking/have looked into this internally.

Except you're twisting it. She mentions money when the season was suspended. What was Griffin's salary going to be this season had the season been shut down? These are all things he was probably advised on.

The only child she receives child support for is 17 this year. She has 12 months left to receive child support.

Do you honestly think she gives a damn about 12 months of child support vs ruining someone's career?

I don't understand how this is relevant. I was replying to the notion of her having stayed with him because of money. Even if she doesn't get the money, the kid does benefit from it. I will assume that she has the interest of the kid at heart as a mom without any further context. And if she did stay for money, I don't think that is relevant.

I don't see anyone here advocating for him to be fired. I don't see anyone refuting that she can have a vindictive agenda. I see people saying that the substance of the allegation should be looked into and that we shouldn't make rash judgement on the parties because we don't know anything.

When people say support victims, it's to help people feel comfortable about coming forward. It doesn't mean assume guilt automatically. That comes from a good place. This isn't twitter; I don't see anyone here saying fire Griffin without any due process. I do see people here unequivocally calling the accuser a gold digger that's out to ruin this man's life for no reason other than being bitter. When people trash the the accuser without any personal relationship or knowledge of the situation, it's telling.

[Pooh_Jeter]

Masai needs to be fired. You need to do your due dilligence when not only hiring employees, but putting them in the spotlight like we did yesterday. Masai got glowing cover stories for his inclusion of women within the organization, yet he empowers an abuser? Shameful.

[HeadtopChunes]

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No proof this is his actual daughter tho

[RapsAndJays21]

Entirely possible this was already being investigated by the Raps, especially if she was tweeting about this for a while. Of course, it comes into a greater spotlight with Griffin coaching yesterday. Don't feel good about it - but the Raps organization has been doing everything right for a long time, hopefully they did their due dilligence here.

[Raps1103]

She willingly CHOSE to stay with an alleged abuser after multiple alleged incidents and is now trying to publicly destroy the man amidst rumblings of a head coaching position after already complaining about his financial shortcomings as a father.

You're right, money must clearly have nothing to do with it...

People stay with abusers for many reasons. It's a psychological mind ****. You're sounding incredibly ignorant.

And if she is right, and he didn't pay child support for long stretches, then yes... she should get that money. Money that she shelled out to support THEIR children.

1. Do you know how they calculate child support? Are you suggesting that she would need or spend that much money on them on a month per month basis?

2. It's no psychology mind abuse. It's 2020. More and more couples are getting devorced for much less reasons.

Dude, you and M3tro are embarrassingly misinformed and ignorant on just about everything you have posted so far ! You are coming off as a real pieces of #%% here bro... there’s countless women that stay in abusive relationship with men that are broke AF... there’s numerous reasons ppl don’t leave abusive relationships !! You’re making baseless assumptions on a situation you know nothing about .. and seemingly taking the side of the ACCUSED abuser ... very very odd stance to take man !

[Raps in 4]

Same reason she stuck with him throughout their entire alleged abusive relationship....money.

She didn't stay with him.

She did stay long enough to have multiple incidents alleged against him though.

Maybe I'm crazy, but if someone dragged me across a lawn while pregnant, that would be enough to leave at that moment; but she didn't and stayed. Why? Cause she might never get another Adrian Griffin and those NBA checks/lifestyle are hard to pass up.

All of this might be true and Griffin might be a POS, but I'm waiting until the receipts get shown as she claims...

A lot of women stay with abusive men who aren't rich. I know people like that myself. No amount of talking to them will get them to leave the abusive relationship. There are complex psychological reasons that inform this type of hehaviour.

[Inevitable]

Wow if Masai knew about the allegations it’s an incredibly bad look on the organization that they spotlighted him like this. At bare minimum you have to suspend Adrian Griffin and have a third party investigation into the organization’s knowledge of these accusations.

[mashiach]

Entirely possible this was already being investigated by the Raps, especially if she was tweeting about this for a while. Of course, it comes into a greater spotlight with Griffin coaching yesterday. Don't feel good about it - but the Raps organization has been doing everything right for a long time, hopefully they did their due dilligence here.

inb4 masai accused of turning a blind eye on the situation, he loses his job, and the whole africa project goes to water

Nah but really, nothing will happen. Don't believe everything you read on twitter. I didn't know twitter was the new court. Blake Murphy is a serious idiot for entertaining random tweets. He deserves a public clap back from Griffin like how that raptor bench player did to Lewenberg last year

[notaname]

People stay with abusers for many reasons. It's a psychological mind ****. You're sounding incredibly ignorant.

And if she is right, and he didn't pay child support for long stretches, then yes... she should get that money. Money that she shelled out to support THEIR children.

His argument is pointless, if not contradictory. She stayed with him for the money but is now getting in the way of him getting more money that she would be entitled to? And what if she did stay for the money? Why does that make any difference?

MLSE/Raptors are a good organization. I would expect that they are looking/have looked into this internally.

Except you're twisting it. She mentions money when the season was suspended. What was Griffin's salary going to be this season had the season been shut down? These are all things he was probably advised on.

The only child she receives child support for is 17 this year. She has 12 months left to receive child support.

Do you honestly think she gives a damn about 12 months of child support vs ruining someone's career?

Depending on jurisdiction, child support does NOT end at 18. In Canada, child support CAN extend through university, and potentially multiple degrees. E.g.:
https://www.canlii.org/en/ns/nssc/doc/2009/2009nssc121/2009nssc121.html?searchUrlHash=AAAAAQAzImNoaWxkIHN1cHBvcnQiIGFuZCB1bml2ZXJzaXR5IGFuZCAibWVkaWNhbCBzY2hvb2wiAAAAAAE&resultIndex=1

Although they are likely governed by a US court order, where child support through college is possible:
"What constitutes the age of majority varies according to state law, but it is generally at least 18-years-old or until the child graduates from high school. Currently, however, there are some states that allow courts to impose an obligation on a parent to pay for a child’s college education. The details of what obligation may be imposed on a parent vary by state. In some states a court may be permitted to order a parent to pay for post-high school education, but limit the duration of the obligation to when the child turns 21. "
https://www.justia.com/family/child-custody-and-support/child-support/college-expenses-and-child-support/

[howlin mad axer]

... I posted something offensive here before.

[OGLife]

People stay with abusers for many reasons. It's a psychological mind ****. You're sounding incredibly ignorant.

And if she is right, and he didn't pay child support for long stretches, then yes... she should get that money. Money that she shelled out to support THEIR children.

1. Do you know how they calculate child support? Are you suggesting that she would need or spend that much money on them on a month per month basis?

2. It's no psychology mind abuse. It's 2020. More and more couples are getting devorced for much less reasons.

Dude, you and M3tro are embarrassingly misinformed and ignorant on just about everything you have posted so far ! You are coming off as a real pieces of #%% here bro... there’s countless women that stay in abusive relationship with men that are broke AF... there’s numerous reasons ppl don’t leave abusive relationships !! You’re making baseless assumptions on a situation you know nothing about .. and seemingly taking the side of the ACCUSED abuser ... very very odd stance to take man !

That's a new logic. Men abuse women because they think they're more powerful. Money is directly tied to that.

I'm not supporting abuse. I'm just in agreement that she could have left but what was her direct motive to stay instead..

[Raps in 4]

I highly doubt his kids would be publicly tweeting their support for him if he truly did almost choke their mother to death

Yeah, if those are real accounts, I'm leaning towards BS on the wife's claims.

[Ado05]

Well that sucks. Raps should investigate and do what needs to be done if this is true.

[Los Manos]

I'm just curious how much some of you think a book deal on a expose of Adrian Griffin would make a person???

Not a lot as her book - "F.L.Y: One woman’s journey, in learning how to fully love herself again after spending most of her adult life in a relationship nightmare and divorce" - has been out since April and currently ranks #6,284,866 on Amazon.

Social media is a marketing tool, the courts are for family disputes.

[Hero]

This a matter for the authorities and org to handle. What's the value in speculating without actually having any sort of firm evidence.

[ItsDanger]

She's in NY state now, their child support is up to age 21 if son/daughter is in college. But they could have moved there, not sure about that scenario. So he's probably still on the hook for 3? children.

[ForeverTFC]

1. Do you know how they calculate child support? Are you suggesting that she would need or spend that much money on them on a month per month basis?

2. It's no psychology mind abuse. It's 2020. More and more couples are getting devorced for much less reasons.

Dude, you and M3tro are embarrassingly misinformed and ignorant on just about everything you have posted so far ! You are coming off as a real pieces of #%% here bro... there’s countless women that stay in abusive relationship with men that are broke AF... there’s numerous reasons ppl don’t leave abusive relationships !! You’re making baseless assumptions on a situation you know nothing about .. and seemingly taking the side of the ACCUSED abuser ... very very odd stance to take man !

That's a new logic. Men abuse women because they think they're more powerful. Money is directly tied to that.

I'm not supporting abuse. I'm just in agreement that she could have left but what was her direct motive to stay instead..

Why does this matter? Imagine showing up to court and saying "yeah I beat her, but she stayed after the first beating because she wanted money so she deserved all the beatings that followed." See how stupid that sounds?

It literally makes no difference why she stayed. If he abused her, he abused her. The abuse is just as valid the 10th time as it was the 1st time. That's my issue with your line of thinking.

[OGLife]

Dude, you and M3tro are embarrassingly misinformed and ignorant on just about everything you have posted so far ! You are coming off as a real pieces of #%% here bro... there’s countless women that stay in abusive relationship with men that are broke AF... there’s numerous reasons ppl don’t leave abusive relationships !! You’re making baseless assumptions on a situation you know nothing about .. and seemingly taking the side of the ACCUSED abuser ... very very odd stance to take man !

That's a new logic. Men abuse women because they think they're more powerful. Money is directly tied to that.

I'm not supporting abuse. I'm just in agreement that she could have left but what was her direct motive to stay instead..

Why does this matter? Imagine showing up to court and saying "yeah I beat her, but she stayed after the first beating because she wanted money so she deserved all the beatings that followed." See how stupid that sounds?

It literally makes no difference why she stayed. If he abused her, he abused her. The abuse is just as valid the 10th time as it was the 1st time. That's my issue with your line of thinking.

So it's ok to discuss the reasons that people turn into criminals and paint them as victims, but we cannot speak about why a person puts themselves through hell and then seek revenge to destroy the other person?

Also, I want to add, I'm happy that their kids have grown up doing well for themselves. Thankfully they haven't become victims of this whole thing.

[lolwut]

Masai needs to be fired. You need to do your due dilligence when not only hiring employees, but putting them in the spotlight like we did yesterday. Masai got glowing cover stories for his inclusion of women within the organization, yet he empowers an abuser? Shameful.

Let's not just burn Adrian Griffin at the stake, but also Masai for hiring him. All based on an unproven allegation.

How do people jump to such conclusions so easily...?

[tdotrep2]

Her own daughter calling her a liar... sounds like a bitter person stooping to disgustibg levels but obviously i don't know