Shams: Fred VanVleet has agreed to a four-year, $85M deal to re-sign with the Toronto Raptors

MavCarter · Post #101 » by **MavCarter** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:06 pm

DonDoolie · Post #102 » by **DonDoolie** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:07 pm

KINGTHANOS wrote:
DonDoolie wrote:Terrible. 21 million for fred is a **** joke. Goodbye being a competitive team if we are just handing out money like this to role players. Especially a guard that **** the bed as soon as they put size on him. Ffs

Oh shut up... Fred will provide surplus value over this contract with his defense and shooting alone, even if he doesn't improve his finishing or pick and roll passing

You keep thinking that but I dont want to see you crying half way through the season about his contract.

TR50 · Post #103 » by **TR50** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:07 pm

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RaptorsNorth · Post #104 » by **RaptorsNorth** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:07 pm

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Ok but whos the other meeting

Probably serge.

mihaic · Post #105 » by **mihaic** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:08 pm

If FVV does not improve, his contract can also be used as filler for Giannis, should Giannis want to come here. If he improves finishing at the rim he becomes elite.

Good asset retaining. Unlikely he would regress in the next 3 years so he should hold his value in 1-2 years short term.

tecumseh18 · Post #106 » by **tecumseh18** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:08 pm

canada_dry wrote:
DonDoolie wrote:
RaptorNews wrote:
They can easily trade that, calm down

Nah this is a bad contract you don't sign contracts like this hoping you can trade it later. 21 million for this overrated chucker is a joke. Same people in here saying its a fair deal will be crying by mid season. But leave it to raptors fans to overrated the hell out of mediocre players
Get a loada this guy eh?

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He doesn't post often enough for me to take the time to block him. It's hilarious to see guys like this criticize a team that has finished second overall three seasons running, and we fans who think that means the President, GM, coach and players must be pretty good.

RaptorsNorth · Post #107 » by **RaptorsNorth** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:10 pm

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Post #108 » by **DG88** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:12 pm

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This part is huge. He took a dip in salary to help the Raps next year in free agency.

redeye514 · Post #109 » by **redeye514** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:12 pm

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Very important.

Trust Masai. He knows what the F he’s doing.

Mr.Raptorsingh · Post #110 » by **Mr.Raptorsingh** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:13 pm

Frederick will probably will recoup that paycut in 2021 in the 3rd and/or 4th years of his contract

TR50 · Post #111 » by **TR50** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:14 pm

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This part is huge. He took a dip in salary to help the Raps next year in free agency.

This is the pseudo player friendly discount deal we needed :wink:

2019nbachamps · Post #112 » by **2019nbachamps** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:14 pm

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This part is huge. He took a dip in salary to help the Raps next year in free agency.

He did not take a dip in salary. His salary more than doubles next season. His contract is just back loaded.

mihaic · Post #113 » by **mihaic** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:15 pm

Boardbreaker wrote:
pingpongrac wrote:
pilkoids wrote:Feel good for him - he's worked to get where he is today, but I'm not sure I'm thrilled about this signing.

I'm not convinced Fred has any more improvements he can make to his game, and there are limitations with him that cannot be overcome. But that aside, I'm definitely happy for him.

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As others have said, a floater would be a huge thing for FVV. That would be a massive addition that would give him more options when he puts the ball on the floor than getting stuffed at the rim or dribbling around until he finds an open teammate.

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Malachi should teach him

lol was thinking the same thing. In a shrewd move we acquired Flynn to improve Fred. As well as insurance fo Lowry getting old. Lowry can finally play less minutes if Flynn is any good.

alienchild · Post #114 » by **alienchild** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:15 pm

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DonDoolie · Post #115 » by **DonDoolie** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:15 pm

tecumseh18 wrote:
canada_dry wrote:
DonDoolie wrote:

Nah this is a bad contract you don't sign contracts like this hoping you can trade it later. 21 million for this overrated chucker is a joke. Same people in here saying its a fair deal will be crying by mid season. But leave it to raptors fans to overrated the hell out of mediocre players
Get a loada this guy eh?

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He doesn't post often enough for me to take the time to block him. It's hilarious to see guys like this criticize a team that has finished second overall three seasons running, and we fans who think that means the President, GM, coach and players must be pretty good.

Where did I talk **** about the team? Maybe try learning how to read before opening your mouth... that would be a good start.

Stromile12 · Post #116 » by **Stromile12** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:15 pm

How much money do we have left?

TR50 · Post #117 » by **TR50** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:16 pm

Stromile12 wrote:How much money do we have left?

For this year we can re-sign Ibaka/Gasol using bird rights, and beyond that we can use the MLE to sign other free agents, I believe.

C-R-E-A-M- · Post #118 » by **C-R-E-A-M-** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:17 pm

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realball · Post #119 » by **realball** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:17 pm

DonDoolie wrote:
KINGTHANOS wrote:
DonDoolie wrote:Terrible. 21 million for fred is a **** joke. Goodbye being a competitive team if we are just handing out money like this to role players. Especially a guard that **** the bed as soon as they put size on him. Ffs

Oh shut up... Fred will provide surplus value over this contract with his defense and shooting alone, even if he doesn't improve his finishing or pick and roll passing

You keep thinking that but I dont want to see you crying half way through the season about his contract.

Looks like you're doing enough crying for the rest of us.

This is a good deal, we gave him what other players at his level are getting. Considering Jeremi Grant $20 mill a year we did very well.

sidsid · Post #120 » by **sidsid** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:21 pm

It was crucial to keep this deal under 20 million so that you had a lot of trade option maneuverability for the Giannis offseason. By outbidding ourselves and overpaying a role player we might miss out on luring him here.