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Post#101 » by OhCanada1091 » Thu Oct 14, 2021 5:32 am

Freddie G just had the worst stretch of NBA basketball I've ever seen. I really hope he bounces back and gets out of this slump because he played great for the Raptors at the end of last season. I would encourage people to send him some positive messages on social media he seems like a great guy and I hope the best for him.
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Post#102 » by OhCanada1091 » Thu Oct 14, 2021 5:40 am

Dekker shooting was lights out. Theres a difference to the way he is able to find the open spots on the floor and create the oppurtunities whereas Wainwright more so stands in his spot and waits for his oppurtunities. Right now Dekker is the much more advanced player as far as that particular role goes and when your projected to come off the bench for max 18 minutes per game you need a defining trait to keep your game relevant. It was only one game but Dekker showed me enough. Remember he already spent a few years in the league before that JR Smith situation.

To me its between Wainwright and Bonga. What really sucks is that they are both very good options. I know everyone here loves them some Ish but I would go with Bonga. I don't think they will pick Bonga though which is a shame because he would really thrive in our development system and I do believe this is exactly what he needs to reach his potential.
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Post#103 » by ash_k » Thu Oct 14, 2021 9:29 am

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ash_k wrote:
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Yeah. To me it looked an agent special - showcase my client so he can get an opportunity somewhere else.

Yep, for me that's all it was. I saw the way Banton hugged him like he knew. will see


A 2nd round Canadian rookie "knew"? Is in the know about player moves?

I lean more to what Malachi said in his postgame interview, something about when Sam got so hot it got the rest of us going.

I don't get why Nurse didn't give Dekker the same minutes in all the games. Then at least you'd have an idea if he can sustain that kind of shooting. Not that kind of insane hot stretch but steady and consistent 3-shooting. because the team could really use that kind of shooting.

Rookie or not, in any camp, players have a feel of who is going to make the team or not.
Nurse must have noticed right away in Camp that Dekker was not it or else he would have given him more playing time: Do you have another explanation?
Plus the team has more than enough shooting, as stated earlier (FVV, GTJ, OG, Dragic, Svi, Flynn and Boucher can all shoot the 3 at a high-clip/~40% - They have all proven that they can do it at the NBA-level. Dekker has not.)
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Post#104 » by OAKLEY_2 » Thu Oct 14, 2021 11:19 am

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ash_k wrote:Yep, for me that's all it was. I saw the way Banton hugged him like he knew. will see


A 2nd round Canadian rookie "knew"? Is in the know about player moves?

I lean more to what Malachi said in his postgame interview, something about when Sam got so hot it got the rest of us going.

I don't get why Nurse didn't give Dekker the same minutes in all the games. Then at least you'd have an idea if he can sustain that kind of shooting. Not that kind of insane hot stretch but steady and consistent 3-shooting. because the team could really use that kind of shooting.

Rookie or not, in any camp, players have a feel of who is going to make the team or not.
Nurse must have noticed right away in Camp that Dekker was not it or else he would have given him more playing time: Do you have another explanation?
Plus the team has more than enough shooting, as stated earlier (FVV, GTJ, OG, Dragic, Svi, Flynn and Boucher can all shoot the 3 at a high-clip/~40% - They have all proven that they can do it at the NBA-level. Dekker has not.)


Team has enough shooting? A Nurse team is everyone hits the 3. I think people fall to easily for a player's profile and the "potential" of that profile. For end of bench two Euro vets make sense with a team already so young. Bonga needs to do a year of 905. Does he really deserve 1.7 mil to towel wave on profile alone? Ish costs 900k and looked great in Vegas. Dekker is the same as Bonga in $ but already has an NBA near elite skill. The job is to convince Bonga to play 905 and develop with us even though he can be lost to another team.
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Re: Waive Watch: Gillespie and Perry waived 

Post#105 » by ash_k » Thu Oct 14, 2021 12:43 pm

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ash_k wrote:
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A 2nd round Canadian rookie "knew"? Is in the know about player moves?

I lean more to what Malachi said in his postgame interview, something about when Sam got so hot it got the rest of us going.

I don't get why Nurse didn't give Dekker the same minutes in all the games. Then at least you'd have an idea if he can sustain that kind of shooting. Not that kind of insane hot stretch but steady and consistent 3-shooting. because the team could really use that kind of shooting.

Rookie or not, in any camp, players have a feel of who is going to make the team or not.
Nurse must have noticed right away in Camp that Dekker was not it or else he would have given him more playing time: Do you have another explanation?
Plus the team has more than enough shooting, as stated earlier (FVV, GTJ, OG, Dragic, Svi, Flynn and Boucher can all shoot the 3 at a high-clip/~40% - They have all proven that they can do it at the NBA-level. Dekker has not.)


Team has enough shooting? A Nurse team is everyone hits the 3. I think people fall to easily for a player's profile and the "potential" of that profile. For end of bench two Euro vets make sense with a team already so young. Bonga needs to do a year of 905. Does he really deserve 1.7 mil to towel wave on profile alone? Ish costs 900k and looked great in Vegas. Dekker is the same as Bonga in $ but already has an NBA near elite skill. The job is to convince Bonga to play 905 and develop with us even though he can be lost to another team.

Nah Nurse team is everyone defends first!
I don't quite get all the love for a 15th with unproven shooting at the NBA level. I don't know where you got your "near elite skill" from when he shot over 40% from 3 for the first time of his career in Turkey (and its league 18y old MVP Şengün and Finals MVP Rodrigue "remember him?" Beaubois).
Again, with such a roster below, Dekker would collect DNP-CDs. He does not fit our philosophy. Bonga does.
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Post#106 » by PD28 » Thu Oct 14, 2021 1:14 pm

We have enough youth, and not enough shooting on the team. I think it should be a pretty obvious choice of Dekker but who knows.

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Post#107 » by OAKLEY_2 » Thu Oct 14, 2021 1:46 pm

ash_k wrote:
OAKLEY_2 wrote:
ash_k wrote:Rookie or not, in any camp, players have a feel of who is going to make the team or not.
Nurse must have noticed right away in Camp that Dekker was not it or else he would have given him more playing time: Do you have another explanation?
Plus the team has more than enough shooting, as stated earlier (FVV, GTJ, OG, Dragic, Svi, Flynn and Boucher can all shoot the 3 at a high-clip/~40% - They have all proven that they can do it at the NBA-level. Dekker has not.)


Team has enough shooting? A Nurse team is everyone hits the 3. I think people fall to easily for a player's profile and the "potential" of that profile. For end of bench two Euro vets make sense with a team already so young. Bonga needs to do a year of 905. Does he really deserve 1.7 mil to towel wave on profile alone? Ish costs 900k and looked great in Vegas. Dekker is the same as Bonga in $ but already has an NBA near elite skill. The job is to convince Bonga to play 905 and develop with us even though he can be lost to another team.

Nah Nurse team is everyone defends first!
I don't quite get all the love for a 15th with unproven shooting at the NBA level. I don't know where you got your "near elite skill" from when he shot over 40% from 3 for the first time of his career in Turkey (and its league 18y old MVP Şengün and Finals MVP Rodrigue "remember him?" Beaubois).
Again, with such a roster below, Dekker would collect DNP-CDs. He does not fit our philosophy. Bonga does.
FVV|Dragic
GTj|Svi
OG |Barnes
Siakam| Precious
Birch| Boucher
Flynn | Yuta


Bonga value inflating is just more race horse fetish like he is the long shot to place. Give it up. As injury insurance I'll take Dekker and Ish twice on Sundays.
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Post#108 » by ash_k » Thu Oct 14, 2021 1:57 pm

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Team has enough shooting? A Nurse team is everyone hits the 3. I think people fall to easily for a player's profile and the "potential" of that profile. For end of bench two Euro vets make sense with a team already so young. Bonga needs to do a year of 905. Does he really deserve 1.7 mil to towel wave on profile alone? Ish costs 900k and looked great in Vegas. Dekker is the same as Bonga in $ but already has an NBA near elite skill. The job is to convince Bonga to play 905 and develop with us even though he can be lost to another team.

Nah Nurse team is everyone defends first!
I don't quite get all the love for a 15th with unproven shooting at the NBA level. I don't know where you got your "near elite skill" from when he shot over 40% from 3 for the first time of his career in Turkey (and its league 18y old MVP Şengün and Finals MVP Rodrigue "remember him?" Beaubois).
Again, with such a roster below, Dekker would collect DNP-CDs. He does not fit our philosophy. Bonga does.
FVV|Dragic
GTj|Svi
OG |Barnes
Siakam| Precious
Birch| Boucher
Flynn | Yuta


Bonga value inflating is just more race horse fetish like he is the long shot to place. Give it up. As injury insurance I'll take Dekker and Ish twice on Sundays.

Give it up, Nurse team is everyone defends first. Bonga(57 games by 21y old) has started more NBA games than Dekker (8 games). No point of keeping a 27-year old in need of playing-time that would be glued to the bench as he cant to G-League like Bonga can. Dekker might as well go back to Europe and build his resume.

A poster attempted to put Anthony Parker in the same breath as Dekker, to make a counter point.
We would welcome Dekker back with playing time once he can do something similar to (and can defend):
2× EuroLeague MVP
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Post#109 » by Rapsalot » Thu Oct 14, 2021 2:02 pm

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Post#110 » by OAKLEY_2 » Thu Oct 14, 2021 2:04 pm

ash_k wrote:
OAKLEY_2 wrote:
ash_k wrote:Nah Nurse team is everyone defends first!
I don't quite get all the love for a 15th with unproven shooting at the NBA level. I don't know where you got your "near elite skill" from when he shot over 40% from 3 for the first time of his career in Turkey (and its league 18y old MVP Şengün and Finals MVP Rodrigue "remember him?" Beaubois).
Again, with such a roster below, Dekker would collect DNP-CDs. He does not fit our philosophy. Bonga does.
FVV|Dragic
GTj|Svi
OG |Barnes
Siakam| Precious
Birch| Boucher
Flynn | Yuta


Bonga value inflating is just more race horse fetish like he is the long shot to place. Give it up. As injury insurance I'll take Dekker and Ish twice on Sundays.

Give it up, Nurse team is everyone defends first. Bonga(57 games by 21y old) has started more NBA games than Dekker (8 games). No point of keeping a 27-year old in need of playing-time that would be glued to the bench as he cant to G-League like Bonga can. Dekker might as well go back to Europe and build his resume.

A poster attempted to put Anthony Parker in the same breath as Dekker, to make a counter point.
We would welcome Dekker back with playing time once he can do something similar to (and can defend):
2× EuroLeague MVP
EuroLeague Final Four MVP
EuroLeague Finals Top Scorer
2× All-EuroLeague First Team
EuroLeague 2000–10 All-Decade Team
50 Greatest EuroLeague Contributors


You are quibbling about the 15th spot on the roster on a team with youth inexperience already. If Bonga was the superior talent why isn't he a factor in Washington?
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Post#111 » by ash_k » Thu Oct 14, 2021 2:07 pm

OAKLEY_2 wrote:
ash_k wrote:
OAKLEY_2 wrote:
Bonga value inflating is just more race horse fetish like he is the long shot to place. Give it up. As injury insurance I'll take Dekker and Ish twice on Sundays.

Give it up, Nurse team is everyone defends first. Bonga(57 games by 21y old) has started more NBA games than Dekker (8 games). No point of keeping a 27-year old in need of playing-time that would be glued to the bench as he cant to G-League like Bonga can. Dekker might as well go back to Europe and build his resume.

A poster attempted to put Anthony Parker in the same breath as Dekker, to make a counter point.
We would welcome Dekker back with playing time once he can do something similar to (and can defend):
2× EuroLeague MVP
EuroLeague Final Four MVP
EuroLeague Finals Top Scorer
2× All-EuroLeague First Team
EuroLeague 2000–10 All-Decade Team
50 Greatest EuroLeague Contributors


You are quibbling about the 15th spot on the roster on a team with youth inexperience already. If Bonga was the superior talent why isn't he a factor in Washington?

Teams have no patience compared to us (FVV&Siakam&OG+Norm) and they drafted that Israeli SF kid.
You don't start so many NBA games at such a young, if there is nothing special there.
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Post#112 » by alienchild » Thu Oct 14, 2021 2:15 pm

OAKLEY_2 wrote:
ash_k wrote:
OAKLEY_2 wrote:
Bonga value inflating is just more race horse fetish like he is the long shot to place. Give it up. As injury insurance I'll take Dekker and Ish twice on Sundays.

Give it up, Nurse team is everyone defends first. Bonga(57 games by 21y old) has started more NBA games than Dekker (8 games). No point of keeping a 27-year old in need of playing-time that would be glued to the bench as he cant to G-League like Bonga can. Dekker might as well go back to Europe and build his resume.

A poster attempted to put Anthony Parker in the same breath as Dekker, to make a counter point.
We would welcome Dekker back with playing time once he can do something similar to (and can defend):
2× EuroLeague MVP
EuroLeague Final Four MVP
EuroLeague Finals Top Scorer
2× All-EuroLeague First Team
EuroLeague 2000–10 All-Decade Team
50 Greatest EuroLeague Contributors


You are quibbling about the 15th spot on the roster on a team with youth inexperience already. If Bonga was the superior talent why isn't he a factor in Washington?


Washington could not have kept him because they had multiple players coming in from the Westbrook trade and would have been way over the roster limit.
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Post#113 » by PD28 » Thu Oct 14, 2021 3:09 pm

ash_k wrote:
OAKLEY_2 wrote:
ash_k wrote:Give it up, Nurse team is everyone defends first. Bonga(57 games by 21y old) has started more NBA games than Dekker (8 games). No point of keeping a 27-year old in need of playing-time that would be glued to the bench as he cant to G-League like Bonga can. Dekker might as well go back to Europe and build his resume.

A poster attempted to put Anthony Parker in the same breath as Dekker, to make a counter point.
We would welcome Dekker back with playing time once he can do something similar to (and can defend):
2× EuroLeague MVP
EuroLeague Final Four MVP
EuroLeague Finals Top Scorer
2× All-EuroLeague First Team
EuroLeague 2000–10 All-Decade Team
50 Greatest EuroLeague Contributors


You are quibbling about the 15th spot on the roster on a team with youth inexperience already. If Bonga was the superior talent why isn't he a factor in Washington?

Teams have no patience compared to us (FVV&Siakam&OG+Norm) and they drafted that Israeli SF kid.
You don't start so many NBA games at such a young, if there is nothing special there.


Sekou Doumbouya has started 30 games by age 20, does that mean anything at all? Some teams are bad and start bad players.
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Post#114 » by ash_k » Thu Oct 14, 2021 3:17 pm

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ash_k wrote:
OAKLEY_2 wrote:
You are quibbling about the 15th spot on the roster on a team with youth inexperience already. If Bonga was the superior talent why isn't he a factor in Washington?

Teams have no patience compared to us (FVV&Siakam&OG+Norm) and they drafted that Israeli SF kid.
You don't start so many NBA games at such a young, if there is nothing special there.


Sekou Doumbouya has started 30 games by age 20, does that mean anything at all? Some teams are bad and start bad players.

you have made my point.
He has only been in the league for 2 seasons. 2! and he is only 20.
By the way, Lakers have Signed Sekou Doumbouya To Two-Way Deal
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Post#115 » by Bruin » Thu Oct 14, 2021 3:49 pm

If this is any indication, I’m thinking ish and Bonga made the cut
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Post#116 » by ash_k » Thu Oct 14, 2021 3:55 pm

PrinceAli wrote:If this is any indication, I’m thinking ish and Bonga made the cut
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yeah I don't think they will take down that German flag :lol: now as It took some planning.
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Post#117 » by hyper316 » Thu Oct 14, 2021 3:58 pm

PrinceAli wrote:If this is any indication, I’m thinking ish and Bonga made the cut
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German flag for Bonga...

Bye bye dekker?
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Post#118 » by PD28 » Thu Oct 14, 2021 4:14 pm

ash_k wrote:
PD28 wrote:
ash_k wrote:Teams have no patience compared to us (FVV&Siakam&OG+Norm) and they drafted that Israeli SF kid.
You don't start so many NBA games at such a young, if there is nothing special there.


Sekou Doumbouya has started 30 games by age 20, does that mean anything at all? Some teams are bad and start bad players.

you have made my point.
He has only been in the league for 2 seasons. 2! and he is only 20.
By the way, Lakers have Signed Sekou Doumbouya To Two-Way Deal
Lol once again, 15th man that they hope will turn into something but most probably won't. Feel free to revisit this once they resign him to a real contract.

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Post#119 » by MonkBatter42 » Thu Oct 14, 2021 4:22 pm

ash_k wrote:
OAKLEY_2 wrote:
ash_k wrote:Nah Nurse team is everyone defends first!
I don't quite get all the love for a 15th with unproven shooting at the NBA level. I don't know where you got your "near elite skill" from when he shot over 40% from 3 for the first time of his career in Turkey (and its league 18y old MVP Şengün and Finals MVP Rodrigue "remember him?" Beaubois).
Again, with such a roster below, Dekker would collect DNP-CDs. He does not fit our philosophy. Bonga does.
FVV|Dragic
GTj|Svi
OG |Barnes
Siakam| Precious
Birch| Boucher
Flynn | Yuta


Bonga value inflating is just more race horse fetish like he is the long shot to place. Give it up. As injury insurance I'll take Dekker and Ish twice on Sundays.

Give it up, Nurse team is everyone defends first. Bonga(57 games by 21y old) has started more NBA games than Dekker (8 games). No point of keeping a 27-year old in need of playing-time that would be glued to the bench as he cant to G-League like Bonga can. Dekker might as well go back to Europe and build his resume.

A poster attempted to put Anthony Parker in the same breath as Dekker, to make a counter point.
We would welcome Dekker back with playing time once he can do something similar to (and can defend):
2× EuroLeague MVP
EuroLeague Final Four MVP
EuroLeague Finals Top Scorer
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EuroLeague 2000–10 All-Decade Team
50 Greatest EuroLeague Contributors


That poster (me) was not comparing Anthony Parker, the player, to Sam Dekker. You clearly understood the point I was making, which was to counter your logic that former NBA guys now playing overseas, are "out of the league for a reason". Now your argument is that former NBA guys actually need to be out of the league for a far longer period of time, in order to accumulate Euro League accolades and championships, before they can make a case for deserving to make it back to the NBA. It's clear you have this hate-on for Dekker, that does not extend to any of the other tryout guys, which began at the very moment we signed him. It has been put to you by multiple posters now, including myself, that your perspective may indeed be predicated on one very dumb tweet by JR Smith in the offseason, and you have outright refused to address if that is indeed the issue for you or not. Dekker could have gotten 20mpg in all 5 preseason games and been lights out in all of them, and you would still advocate cutting him.
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Post#120 » by JJ From Deep » Thu Oct 14, 2021 4:24 pm

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PrinceAli wrote:If this is any indication, I’m thinking ish and Bonga made the cut
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German flag for Bonga...

Bye bye dekker?

If anything it's bye bye Wainwright

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