Toronto Star: Edward Rogers fought plans to keep Raptors’ Masai Ujiri

SFour · Post #101 » by **SFour** » Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:38 pm

this is for sure a hit piece.....at the same time it's pathetic how one guy who likely knows nothing about basketball has this much influence on the Raptors franchise.....this is why the Raptors were a pathetic franchise for so long, these executives at the top know nothing about basketball yet they make all the big decisions. I'll give props to Larry Tanenbaum though.

Boselecta · Post #102 » by **Boselecta** » Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:39 pm

All I'll say is if this is true were really lucky to still have Masai. Toronto has this problem with all there sports teams it seems there are too many chefs in the kitchen and half of them don't actually give a damn about the team.

Kingsway_fan · Post #103 » by **Kingsway_fan** » Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:40 pm

Duffman100 wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:

Read on Twitter
?s=21

That'll be the nail in the coffin right there.

sounds good ... Lets make it loud and clear ... bring signs too ...

MavCarter · Post #104 » by **MavCarter** » Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:42 pm

ItsDanger wrote:Typical corporate power struggle moving pawns around. The fans are pawns as well, you should acknowledge that much. If Masai got a cut of franchise appreciation than I see why he wanted him out. Need that confirmed.

Why are performance based incentives a bad thing? Most CEOs have stock based appreciation incentives tied into their contract. That is literally the same thing as being compensated based on appreciation of value of the organization

djsunyc · Post #105 » by **djsunyc** » Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:42 pm

watch the ring ceremony, dude was the only one not hugging players.

JB7 · Post #106 » by **JB7** » Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:43 pm

Masai probably does value that the Raptors are owned by public companies under a board structure, that values $ above all else. Otherwise, he could be dealing with an individual owner, as racist & dumb as Ed Rogers.

Kingsway_fan · Post #107 » by **Kingsway_fan** » Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:44 pm

Raps in 4 wrote:I've been saying that Rogers are the worst owners in sports for years but people kept defending them.

Ed Rogers ... white trash that pos .... (and I am white) .... no Jays games for me while that POS is associated with the ownership.

OakleyDokely · Post #108 » by **OakleyDokely** » Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:44 pm

Larry T learned from Masai and was like '**** Rogers'

mtcan · Post #109 » by **mtcan** » Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:45 pm

NotMyKawhi wrote:
mtcan wrote:
NotMyKawhi wrote:From a fans perspective knowing there's no cap on how much you can pay management?

This is a billionaire complaining abt paying someone who brought a championship here a couple more million lol Doesn't make rogers looks good

The guy is a friend of Donald Trump...money is probably not the main motivator for a guy like this. He may not have liked the idea of a black executive moving up in the company.

listen, you guys on the left are really dumb and imo don't really have any friends who are actually black.

The Left is more racist than the right. Before Trump was president lots of black ppl loved him. Whoever happens to run for president on the right? Is racist no matter in societies eyes, that's just how it is

I said nothing about left or right.

We know Trump's views when it comes to race. There is no gray area when it comes to what he thinks about race in America. If Ed Roger's is proudly and publically aligning himself with the likes of Trump...it is guilt by association.

This isn't a political argument.

positivetension · Post #110 » by **positivetension** » Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:45 pm

NotMyKawhi wrote:
mtcan wrote:
NotMyKawhi wrote:From a fans perspective knowing there's no cap on how much you can pay management?

This is a billionaire complaining abt paying someone who brought a championship here a couple more million lol Doesn't make rogers looks good

The guy is a friend of Donald Trump...money is probably not the main motivator for a guy like this. He may not have liked the idea of a black executive moving up in the company.

listen, you guys on the left are really dumb and imo don't really have any friends who are actually black.

The Left is more racist than the right. Before Trump was president lots of black ppl loved him. Whoever happens to run for president on the right? Is racist no matter in societies eyes, that's just how it is

We all know that America's racist underbelly is fervently supportive of the left!

Pointgod · Post #111 » by **Pointgod** » Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:45 pm

This guy sounds like the dip **** kids from Succession, except even dumber and more incompetent.

fbalmeida · Post #112 » by **fbalmeida** » Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:46 pm

Unreal.

The kingmaker here was Mirko Bibic from Bell. He's the relatively new guy on the block and he sided with Larry T. Good man.

Of course we're likely knowing all of this now, probably because Ed Rogers was just removed - voted off in fact - of the Rogers board.
It happened last week.
https://ici.radio-canada.ca/rci/en/news/1833764/edward-rogers-not-giving-up-seeking-to-get-rid-of-5-members-of-rogers-board

anotherhomer · Post #113 » by **anotherhomer** » Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:46 pm

This maybe for the better of the company actually....

Duffman100 wrote:
MixxSRC wrote:this is like a hit piece goddamn lol

Smart though. What does this city love? Masai.

Pit Ed Rogers up against Masai, get the public angry, watch people threaten to leaves Rogers. Stakeholders, board member (even Ed's board) can't stand behind that loss of revenue.

Ed is forced to take a backseat for a period of time. That backseat allows his family to get further entrenched and make it harder for him to come back.

Kingsway_fan · Post #114 » by **Kingsway_fan** » Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:47 pm

djsunyc wrote:watch the ring ceremony, dude was the only one not hugging players.

YEP ..Racist POS ...

Post #115 » by **DG88** » Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:48 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:

Read on Twitter
?s=21

Should also have a "We Love Masai" chant

ItsDanger · Post #116 » by **ItsDanger** » Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:49 pm

MavCarter wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:Typical corporate power struggle moving pawns around. The fans are pawns as well, you should acknowledge that much. If Masai got a cut of franchise appreciation than I see why he wanted him out. Need that confirmed.

Why are performance based incentives a bad thing? Most CEOs have stock based appreciation incentives tied into their contract. That is literally the same thing as being compensated based on appreciation of value of the organization

Is it really performance based? Value will go up in this market regardless of his actions.

Kingsway_fan · Post #117 » by **Kingsway_fan** » Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:50 pm

DG88 wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:

Read on Twitter
?s=21

Should also have a "We Love Masai" chant

"Fk Ed Rogers .. We Love Masai" chant sounds good ...

JB7 · Post #118 » by **JB7** » Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:50 pm

KO7 wrote:Reading that section about Rogers accusing Masai of bringing bodyguards to the Muskoka meeting, seems like Rogers has tendencies akin to the rent-a-cop that had that ridiculous situation with Masai after Game 6.

Dang, long live Mr. Tanenbaum indeed. Hope there’s a solid contingency plan for when he needs to step down.

That story just points out how smart Masai is - he knew what he was walking into, and brought witnesses (even one with a video camera). The message that Rogers delivered to him probably over the phone a few days later about the bull**** of Masai not being worth his contract, he probably wanted to say to Masai alone.

MavCarter · Post #119 » by **MavCarter** » Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:52 pm

ItsDanger wrote:
MavCarter wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:Typical corporate power struggle moving pawns around. The fans are pawns as well, you should acknowledge that much. If Masai got a cut of franchise appreciation than I see why he wanted him out. Need that confirmed.

Why are performance based incentives a bad thing? Most CEOs have stock based appreciation incentives tied into their contract. That is literally the same thing as being compensated based on appreciation of value of the organization

Is it really performance based? Value will go up in this market regardless of his actions.

The raptors are a top 10 valued franchise according to forbes. You really think that would have happened regardless of masai and the winning the last 9 years?

mtcan · Post #120 » by **mtcan** » Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:52 pm

positivetension wrote:
NotMyKawhi wrote:
mtcan wrote:The guy is a friend of Donald Trump...money is probably not the main motivator for a guy like this. He may not have liked the idea of a black executive moving up in the company.

listen, you guys on the left are really dumb and imo don't really have any friends who are actually black.

The Left is more racist than the right. Before Trump was president lots of black ppl loved him. Whoever happens to run for president on the right? Is racist no matter in societies eyes, that's just how it is

We all know that America's racist underbelly is fervently supportive of the left!

I'm sure the racists all voted for Barack Obama for 2 terms as president and a Biden/Kamala Harris ticket ironically...