Trade Deadline Discussion & Rumours - Raptors and NBA

[StopitLeo]

give me a stretch 5 who is a rim protector and can make free throws.

Of players likely available, that’s Mo Bamba.

3P% = 35% on 3.7 3PA
FT% = 77%

He’s averaging 8 rebounds and 2 blocks per game.

He has a $10M qualifying offer which isn’t crazy if he shows he can be a good fit this year.

He's lazy and injury prone. He lacks competitiveness. Precious with the proper development can be better

Lazy, injury prone, and lacking competitiveness have been used to describe Myles Turner as well.

Precious could be better but we are talking about trying to improve the roster today.

[bballsparkin]

Dragic, Birch, Flynn, Protected 1st

For

Poelt and McDermott (who is shooting 42% from 3)

It's tempting.

[PhilBlackson]

I would do it.

To go 4 on 5 offensively in the Playoffs while teams willingly send Yak to the FT line?! No f'ing thanks!

You can teach a guy how to shoot.

Masai, Bobby and Nick seem to think they can get non-shooters to shoot...wouldn't have drafted a bunch of non shooters in this last draft if they don't believe they can teach it.

Yak is TWENTY SIX, not 19 btw

He shoots FIFTY PERCENT from the FT line (45% on the season - yuck!) for his career and teams won't even ALLOW him to shoot a 3ptr because his shooting "touch" is THAT bad. Those teams btw 1. the TORONTO RAPTOS lol - yes us, you rhyme off Masai & Bobby like they didn't draft him and Nick like he hasn't ALREADY coached AND worked with him) and 2. SAS who are almost just as well known to improve players' shooting ie/ Kawhi Leonard. So you're making one of the worst assumptions that a guy that's been in the league for SIX YEARS already is suddenly go from Ben Simmons level bad shooting with MUCH, much worse shooting mechanics despite already working with GREAT developing franchises will suddenly catch on mid-career and become a reliable shooter lol stop...

I really suggest you watch how embarrassingly bad Yak shoots at the FT line lol it's not some easy fix.

[bballsparkin]

give me a stretch 5 who is a rim protector and can make free throws.

Says every team in the league.

[pilkoids]

Dragic, Birch, Flynn, Protected 1st

For

Poelt and McDermott (who is shooting 42% from 3)

It's tempting.

This is a no-brainer, but surely SA has better offers.

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[bballsparkin]

This is a no-brainer, but surely SA has better offers.

I was watching SA highlights the other night and man alive Jakob was moving great defensively. But that FT'% is bad.

[Madhouse]

give me a stretch 5 who is a rim protector and can make free throws.

Says every team in the league.

MASAI WORLD ORDER

[StopitLeo]

This is a no-brainer, but surely SA has better offers.

I was watching SA highlights the other night and man alive Jakob was moving great defensively. But that FT'% is bad.

I bet he could shoot 70% underhanded.

[bballsparkin]

I bet he could shoot 70% underhanded.

And he should if that's what it takes.

[mtcan]

To go 4 on 5 offensively in the Playoffs while teams willingly send Yak to the FT line?! No f'ing thanks!

You can teach a guy how to shoot.

Masai, Bobby and Nick seem to think they can get non-shooters to shoot...wouldn't have drafted a bunch of non shooters in this last draft if they don't believe they can teach it.

Yak is TWENTY SIX, not 19 btw

He shoots FIFTY PERCENT from the FT line (45% on the season - yuck!) for his career and teams won't even ALLOW him to shoot a 3ptr because his shooting "touch" is THAT bad. Those teams btw 1. the TORONTO RAPTOS lol - yes us, you rhyme off Masai & Bobby like they didn't draft him and Nick like he hasn't ALREADY coached AND worked with him) and 2. SAS who are almost just as well known to improve players' shooting ie/ Kawhi Leonard. So you're making one of the worst assumptions that a guy that's been in the league for SIX YEARS already is suddenly go from Ben Simmons level bad shooting with MUCH, much worse shooting mechanics despite already working with GREAT developing franchises will suddenly catch on mid-career and become a reliable shooter lol stop...

I really suggest you watch how embarrassingly bad Yak shoots at the FT line lol it's not some easy fix.

Nick Nurse is the one who got JV shooting 3s at 25 years old...he can get Yak to shoot a damn free throw. I have faith. We are seeing dudes like Scottie and Dalano go from non-shooters to making real progress on a jump shot.

[PhilBlackson]

You can teach a guy how to shoot.

Masai, Bobby and Nick seem to think they can get non-shooters to shoot...wouldn't have drafted a bunch of non shooters in this last draft if they don't believe they can teach it.

Yak is TWENTY SIX, not 19 btw

He shoots FIFTY PERCENT from the FT line (45% on the season - yuck!) for his career and teams won't even ALLOW him to shoot a 3ptr because his shooting "touch" is THAT bad. Those teams btw 1. the TORONTO RAPTOS lol - yes us, you rhyme off Masai & Bobby like they didn't draft him and Nick like he hasn't ALREADY coached AND worked with him) and 2. SAS who are almost just as well known to improve players' shooting ie/ Kawhi Leonard. So you're making one of the worst assumptions that a guy that's been in the league for SIX YEARS already is suddenly go from Ben Simmons level bad shooting with MUCH, much worse shooting mechanics despite already working with GREAT developing franchises will suddenly catch on mid-career and become a reliable shooter lol stop...

I really suggest you watch how embarrassingly bad Yak shoots at the FT line lol it's not some easy fix.

Nick Nurse is the one who got JV shooting 3s at 25 years old...he can get Yak to shoot a damn free throw. I have faith. We are seeing dudes like Scottie and Dalano go from non-shooters to making real progress on a jump shot.

Because Val had ALREADY shown some shooting touch (and you laughably ignore again that WE ALREADY worked with Yak, as did SAS who is well known for improving shot mechanics)...

JV was a near 80% FT shooter BEFORE then, not 45% shooter like Yak lol

You could see JV had most of the mechanics and feel ALREADY from some of the shots he was taking around the basket AND mid range, we just EXTENDED his range. Yak literally has NO RANGE, his teams don't want him shooting and he is literally PUSHING the basketball towards the net with zero feel/touch at all. Just an awful and failed comparison.

[mtcan]

Yak is TWENTY SIX, not 19 btw

He shoots FIFTY PERCENT from the FT line (45% on the season - yuck!) for his career and teams won't even ALLOW him to shoot a 3ptr because his shooting "touch" is THAT bad. Those teams btw 1. the TORONTO RAPTOS lol - yes us, you rhyme off Masai & Bobby like they didn't draft him and Nick like he hasn't ALREADY coached AND worked with him) and 2. SAS who are almost just as well known to improve players' shooting ie/ Kawhi Leonard. So you're making one of the worst assumptions that a guy that's been in the league for SIX YEARS already is suddenly go from Ben Simmons level bad shooting with MUCH, much worse shooting mechanics despite already working with GREAT developing franchises will suddenly catch on mid-career and become a reliable shooter lol stop...

I really suggest you watch how embarrassingly bad Yak shoots at the FT line lol it's not some easy fix.

Nick Nurse is the one who got JV shooting 3s at 25 years old...he can get Yak to shoot a damn free throw. I have faith. We are seeing dudes like Scottie and Dalano go from non-shooters to making real progress on a jump shot.

BECAUSE Val had ALREADY shown some shooting touch (and you laughably ignore again that WE ALREADY worked with him, as did SAS who is well known for improving shot mechanics)...

JV was a near 80% FT shooter BEFORE then, not 45% shooter like Yak lol

You could see JV had most of the mechanics and feel ALREADY from some of the shots he was taking around the basket AND mid range, we just EXTENDED his range. Yak literally has NO RANGE, his teams don't want him shooting and he is literally PUSHING the basketball towards the net with zero feel/touch at all. Just an awful and failed comparison.

JV extended his range while in Toronto and while working with Nick Nurse and others.

This coaching staff can turn non-shooters into somewhat decent shooters...and that's all I ask.

To start I just need the dude to play good D, catch a pass/finish at the basket, be able to run the floor on transition. He can do all that.

He's going to play more against Jokic, Embiid, Vuc, etc. and maybe less against smaller teams.

Anything else I get in terms of shooting...gravy.

[ImaBeatDatAzz]

call me crazy but i have this feeling that the next blockbuster trade we make, will be for Jokic (in the future). Similar to the demar/kawhi trade, we will swap Siakam for Jokic and he will join the core of og/scottie/gtj etc.
I dont know why but i feel like Masai is gonna target that mofo hard. Soon he will want out of Denver when he sees nothing happening with that franchise. only so many times u can fail

[Los_29]

call me crazy but i have this feeling that the next blockbuster trade we make will be for Jokic in the future. I dont know why but i feel like Masai is gonna target that mofo hard. Soon he will want out of Denver when he sees nothing happening with that franchise. only so many times u can fail

Aren’t Murray and MPJ hurt?

[ImaBeatDatAzz]

call me crazy but i have this feeling that the next blockbuster trade we make will be for Jokic in the future. I dont know why but i feel like Masai is gonna target that mofo hard. Soon he will want out of Denver when he sees nothing happening with that franchise. only so many times u can fail

Aren’t Murray and MPJ hurt?

ya but they have failed even with them last year, and the years before that. they will never get past jazz, suns, gsw

[Los_29]

call me crazy but i have this feeling that the next blockbuster trade we make will be for Jokic in the future. I dont know why but i feel like Masai is gonna target that mofo hard. Soon he will want out of Denver when he sees nothing happening with that franchise. only so many times u can fail

Aren’t Murray and MPJ hurt?

ya but they have failed even with them last year, and the years before that. they will never get past jazz, suns, gsw

Murray didn’t play in the playoffs last year.

The year before that they went to the WCF with Jokic/Murray and a rookie MPJ. They also didn’t have Gordon.

And of course they’ll get through the Jazz and they’ll compete with the Warriors and Suns.

Jokic isn’t going anywhere. Lol

[Madhouse]

call me crazy but i have this feeling that the next blockbuster trade we make, will be for Jokic (in the future). Similar to the demar/kawhi trade, we will swap Siakam for Jokic and he will join the core of og/scottie/gtj etc.
I dont know why but i feel like Masai is gonna target that mofo hard. Soon he will want out of Denver when he sees nothing happening with that franchise. only so many times u can fail

Jokic only has 1 year on his deal after this year. Denver gonna try to extend or die trying. They won't trade him.

[Rafters]

I would do it.

To go 4 on 5 offensively in the Playoffs while teams willingly send Yak to the FT line?! No f'ing thanks!

give me a stretch 5 who is a rim protector and can make free throws.

Wonder if NOP would move JV. Can hit a 3 and FTs

[doctaJ_92]

I think the players that we should be going after at the deadline who would be a great fit off the bench and fit in seamlessly while not affecting our starting 5 are Nic Claxton and Josh Hart.

Claxton is going to be a restricted FA with BRK unlikely to want to pay him, and he'd be a great fit as a big who can switch 1-5, while also adding a vertical presence on offence for alley oops that we're lacking. He's one of the best switch bigs in the NBA and he's only 22.

Hart is on a 3 year deal, but it's one of the weirdest contracts signed in recent memory with his 2nd year being unguaranteed (guarantees in June 2022), and his 3rd year is a team option. He only makes 12 million per year so we'd likely have to make a 3 team deal unless the Pelicans want Banton + Boucher + Flynn and/ or a pick. Hart is one of the best rebounding guards in the NBA , and has really improved offensively this year with his passing and shooting overall.

[alevirfe]

Barnes for KD