Pascal is on the brink of SUPERSTARDOM...

[will]

If Siakam puts up 28/10/7 on 58.5TS% IDC If we win 25 games or 65 games - it would not change Siakam's abilities. It is just ridiculous to suggest a player is better or worse based on the performance of his teammates.

Elite players win. That is all.

Lebron never did until he went to Miami.

The number of times he willed Cleveland during the first go round to propel in the playoffs was incredible.
Considered one of the all time greats as a result.
Won in Miami. Went back and delivered a 'chip to Cleveland and won in LA.

Once Pascal and the Raps do something in the playoffs, it will be what it will be.

[refshateRaps]

The new Demar

Bold statement. You're gonna get eaten alive.

Getting eaten alive is a fair consequence for rather stupid hottakes

All-star indeed. No question whatsoever.

Superstar? Not until he becomes a playoff closer as 'the guy'. We haven't seen it yet. And still really not the guy I have any confidence in consistently shooting from distance when the game gets tight.

Regular season isn't the same. Demar knows. Pascal knows. We should all know. But eat away.

[JShuttlesworth]

It's early, but Spicy is looking like a legit 1st option for the first time in his career

I hope he can keep it up all year, I also hope it starts to translate to wins

[Jcity08]

yep, pascal is really on the cusp. just gotta keep it up. consistency is what separates the superstars

Also big shot taking and big shot making. In high leverage situations like the playoffs. Lots of guys put up big numbers but only a few are like what I described above and those guys imo are in a league of their own.

Yeah, the guys that can make those crunch time basket, game winning plays, are on a whole other tier of star. I'm hoping Siakam puts it together and gets there but thats tough.

His averages are already pretty damn good.

[will]

Lets revisit this thread at the all star break?

Raptors have only played 3 games this season, about to play the 4th.

[Zeno]

Lets revisit this thread at the all star break?

Raptors have only played 3 games this season, about to play the 4th.

obviously, but let's face it we'll be revisiting this after every good and bad game Pascal has for the rest of the season. This thread was made for made for bumping.

[YogurtProducer]

If Siakam puts up 28/10/7 on 58.5TS% IDC If we win 25 games or 65 games - it would not change Siakam's abilities. It is just ridiculous to suggest a player is better or worse based on the performance of his teammates.

Elite players win. That is all.

Lebron never did until he went to Miami.

Obviously he wasn’t a superstar despite winning MVP

[YogurtProducer]

Reality is that if the Raptors win and Siakam puts up numbers, that top 5/superstardom/elite talk is justified.

If not, then it's just the Raps real GM board doing Raps real GM board things.

We don't need to deep it too much.

If Siakam puts up 28/10/7 on 58.5TS% IDC If we win 25 games or 65 games - it would not change Siakam's abilities. It is just ridiculous to suggest a player is better or worse based on the performance of his teammates.

Elite players win. That is all.

Except for all those elite players on bad teams. Damn shame we don’t have enough nuance to think critically

[will]

If Siakam puts up 28/10/7 on 58.5TS% IDC If we win 25 games or 65 games - it would not change Siakam's abilities. It is just ridiculous to suggest a player is better or worse based on the performance of his teammates.

Elite players win. That is all.

Except for all those elite players on bad teams. Damn shame we don’t have enough nuance to think critically

Players like Dame ain't going to get the love because they don't win. He's a killer, however people don't see him nor hold him in the same echelon like those killers who win.

[YogurtProducer]

Elite players win. That is all.

Except for all those elite players on bad teams. Damn shame we don’t have enough nuance to think critically

Players like Dame ain't going to get the love because they don't win. He's a killer, however people don't see him nor hold him in the same echelon like those killers who win.

So since other people are incapable of thinking, we also can’t use our heads?

Dame is considered elite by even casuals, so I don’t know what you’re even on.

[will]

Except for all those elite players on bad teams. Damn shame we don’t have enough nuance to think critically

Players like Dame ain't going to get the love because they don't win. He's a killer, however people don't see him nor hold him in the same echelon like those killers who win.

So since other people are incapable of thinking, we also can’t use our heads?

Dame is considered elite by even casuals, so I don’t know what you’re even on.

Cool.

Keep it moving.

[LBJKB24MJ23]

lol what a jinx thread.

[Westside Gunn]

He just has to hit those big shots and step up on those big games. He just needs to take it to that next level.

Or else you trade him for a team that can get that next level out of him. No point of suffocating the team space for a player that can't do it all.

[Los_29]

The big time shot making he had tonight is what can possibly put him in that superstar conversation. Wasn't his best game but he turned it up when it mattered.

[pingpongrac]

lol what a jinx thread.

When you put up 23/9/6 with 2 blocks and 2 steals on a night where offence was hard to come by for both teams, that's pretty damn good. I have a feeling people are going to focus on the 5 TOV while ignoring Siakam was setting up GTJ for wide open threes that he was bricking most of the game in addition to Achiuwa blowing a couple of shots in close off of plays by Siakam.

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[SHFT]

If Pascal makes all-nba he is eligible for the super max.. which is 35% of the cap. So even if Pascal ends up having a tremendous season.. he's going to get ripped apart by Raptor fans eventually again.

35% of the cap in 2024 (for an estimated $136M salary cap) with 8% raises could be about $53.5M per year of a 4 year contract extension or about $55M per year of a 5 year contract extension.

Super stardom has a price

What does he make right now, like 30% of the cap?

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[YogurtProducer]

lol what a jinx thread.

When you put up 23/9/6 with 2 blocks and 2 steals on a night where offence was hard to come by for both teams, that's pretty damn good. I have a feeling people are going to focus on the 5 TOV while ignoring Siakam was setting up GTJ for wide open threes that he was bricking most of the game in addition to Achiuwa blowing a couple of shots in close off of plays by Siakam.

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yeah like what 23/9/6 on an “off” night is pretty great

[OakleyDokely]

lol what a jinx thread.

When you put up 23/9/6 with 2 blocks and 2 steals on a night where offence was hard to come by for both teams, that's pretty damn good. I have a feeling people are going to focus on the 5 TOV while ignoring Siakam was setting up GTJ for wide open threes that he was bricking most of the game in addition to Achiuwa blowing a couple of shots in close off of plays by Siakam.

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9 points, 4 assists, +13 in the 4th Q.

[DreamTeam09]

He's a superstar, point blank period

[JB7]

Over the the last decade, these are the only players to win a title as the #1 option:

Lebron
Kawhi
Giannis
Curry
Durant

It's a very small and elite list. All these guys will end up top 20 players of all-time. Kawhi is borderline, but only because of his health.

Can Siakam reach this level? Probably not, very few very players in history ever reach this level. But can he be in the next group of players of really good #1s and/or elite #2s, he absolutely can and he's played at that level since the start of 2022.

That is the list of superstars. Can count them on one hand. Anyone else is a tier below.