Return of the Yak: The Everything Jakob Poeltl Thread

[YogurtProducer]

2022 - 35/12/7 in 32mpg against SA
2021 - 34/12/1 in 35mpg
2020 - 24/12/4 (29mpg)

Point being should be that one guy does not shut down a star player.

The Point is not if Poeltl can shut him down, but if he can make it difficult for him, and the answer is a Hell yes. A playoff series is a marathon not a sprint and you can tire Embiid out. Thats why stats can and are misleading.

So like I originally said...?

"I dont think anyone expects Poeltl to lock down Embiid himself, but Poellt fits our switchy chaotic defense quite well because he is a fairly mobile big man who is also just big enough to still be able to defend 5's. But he certainly is not as big or as strong as a lot of NBA centers."

The fact Embiid owned Poeltl (and SA in general) when he had no defensive help in SA is just proof Poeltl ain't gonna shut him down solo. If we let Embiid go 1-on-1 on Jak in the post Jak is losing that battle a lot of the time simply becuase Embiid is way to strong.

[Shakril]

So like I originally said...?

"I dont think anyone expects Poeltl to lock down Embiid himself, but Poellt fits our switchy chaotic defense quite well because he is a fairly mobile big man who is also just big enough to still be able to defend 5's. But he certainly is not as big or as strong as a lot of NBA centers."

The fact Embiid owned Poeltl (and SA in general) when he had no defensive help in SA is just proof Poeltl ain't gonna shut him down solo. If we let Embiid go 1-on-1 on Jak in the post Jak is losing that battle a lot of the time simply becuase Embiid is way to strong.

Its clear that you havent watch the games between Embid and Poeltl, which i did. Thats why i said, stats can be misleading. Point is, Poeltl can play 1on1 against Embiid, without help. Embid did not own Poeltl in those games. And no, Embid is not overpowering Poeltl in those matchup either. Embid is just a better player, but Poeltl is good enough, to defend him.

[Jim Todd Jr.]

It is more important that yak can switch a pnr then it is that he can hold a big C in the post one on one… Not sure if you guys watch our team or not..

[Johnny Bball]

So like I originally said...?

"I dont think anyone expects Poeltl to lock down Embiid himself, but Poellt fits our switchy chaotic defense quite well because he is a fairly mobile big man who is also just big enough to still be able to defend 5's. But he certainly is not as big or as strong as a lot of NBA centers."

The fact Embiid owned Poeltl (and SA in general) when he had no defensive help in SA is just proof Poeltl ain't gonna shut him down solo. If we let Embiid go 1-on-1 on Jak in the post Jak is losing that battle a lot of the time simply becuase Embiid is way to strong.

Its clear that you havent watch the games between Embid and Poeltl, which i did. Thats why i said, stats can be misleading. Point is, Poeltl can play 1on1 against Embiid, without help. Embid did not own Poeltl in those games. And no, Embid is not overpowering Poeltl in those matchup either. Embid is just a better player, but Poeltl is good enough, to defend him.

I don't see how they don't still double Embiid every time in the paint even with Poeltl.

[Thaddy]

Embiid's stretch ability would neutralize Poeltl's rim protection and force him to guard him in an area he isn't the best at. Every team has an issue against Jokic or Embiid for that reason. Optimally you use OG to play the initial defense and turn him into a jump shooter. Then you use Poeltl as help or at least make them go thru the motions for a switch that gives Poeltl an advantage by making Embiid use his dribble and iso from the top.

[Mark_83]

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[Kurtz]

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[FrozenLeafz]

We need to sign DeMarcus Cousins as a back up big for Poetl, it's like having Marc and Serge again, one big C and an agile C

[RoyceDa59]

He fixed our biggest hole.

The long bois strategy just needed a legit center to anchor everything.

Loving the new direction this season.

[WaltFrazier]

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One hand huh? Oscar Robertson shot that way towards the end of his career with the Bucks, balanced it on one hand. But he was always a good shooter.

I was wondering lately, if Jak was a 70 percent free throw shooter all along, how much more would he be worth?

[JJWong17]

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Iirc, he kinda shoots one handed now anyway. He sets up with two but then cradles the ball with his right before going into his shooting motion. I wonder if he'd be willing to try underhanded in the offseason. I know that it doesn't have much in the way of gains for someone who is already a good free throw shooter but the simplicity of it might mean there'd be more potential for someone who's inconsistent

[OakleyDokely]

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[ATLTimekeeper]

DRating differential is massive, -21 ON/OFF for JP. No one wants to run around for Nurse anymore.

[WuTang_CMB]

9.2 NetRTG, 70%TS,

14 and 9 with 2 blocks

5-2 record

his impact is there in eye test and numbers

[lolwut]

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Or just shoot granny shots. Who cares how silly you look if it helps the team win and helps you to secure a big contract?

This whole thing about "not looking silly" is in direct contradiction of how much these guys want to get paid. Somehow Jeremy Sochan is the only one to have figured this out. Imagine the records that Shaq would have set if he shot free throws granny style.

[Thaddy]

9.2 NetRTG, 70%TS,

14 and 9 with 2 blocks

5-2 record

his impact is there in eye test and numbers

Poeltl is going to end up being our 3rd best player behind Siakam and Barnes very soon. He's averages 4 stocks a game, is easily the best rebounder on the team, 2/1 AST ratio, finishing 80% of his looks within 10 feet, drawing fouls on almost 50% of his drives, and more.

If we expect Siakam and Fred to improve every year, you definitely think Poeltl could. A FT shot that goes in 70% of the time would change a lot for Poeltl. It gives him a shot in the floor of the offense from the high post and let's him close out games. He is incredibly great in defensive positioning and being a part of a play.

Definitely a championship piece and easily worth two first round picks. We got him heavily discounted IMO, most underrated center in the league.

[dTox]

DRating differential is massive, -21 ON/OFF for JP. No one wants to run around for Nurse anymore.

Curious what you mean by that? Those on/off numbers are impressive.

[WuTang_CMB]

9.2 NetRTG, 70%TS,

14 and 9 with 2 blocks

5-2 record

his impact is there in eye test and numbers

Poeltl is going to end up being our 3rd best player behind Siakam and Barnes very soon. He's averages 4 stocks a game, is easily the best rebounder on the team, 2/1 AST ratio, finishing 80% of his looks within 10 feet, drawing fouls on almost 50% of his drives, and more.

If we expect Siakam and Fred to improve every year, you definitely think Poeltl could. A FT shot that goes in 70% of the time would change a lot for Poeltl. It gives him a shot in the floor of the offense from the high post and let's him close out games. He is incredibly great in defensive positioning and being a part of a play.

Definitely a championship piece and easily worth two first round picks. We got him heavily discounted IMO, most underrated center in the league.

The numbers are all there and he has a great IQ for the game as a big which is uncommon. Another key factor. Gasol like in that regard. If we scoop him for $18M/yr, that's a bargain. Starting centre for the next 4 years with those numbers is very good business.

Masai wanted Poeltl last deadline (ask 2 picks) and in off-season (ask still 2 picks) ... had to wait 1 year to get the cost lower. Unfortunately it costed us a terrible first 50 games.

[billy_hoyle]

9.2 NetRTG, 70%TS,

14 and 9 with 2 blocks

5-2 record

his impact is there in eye test and numbers

Poeltl is going to end up being our 3rd best player behind Siakam and Barnes very soon. He's averages 4 stocks a game, is easily the best rebounder on the team, 2/1 AST ratio, finishing 80% of his looks within 10 feet, drawing fouls on almost 50% of his drives, and more.

If we expect Siakam and Fred to improve every year, you definitely think Poeltl could. A FT shot that goes in 70% of the time would change a lot for Poeltl. It gives him a shot in the floor of the offense from the high post and let's him close out games. He is incredibly great in defensive positioning and being a part of a play.

Definitely a championship piece and easily worth two first round picks. We got him heavily discounted IMO, most underrated center in the league.

The numbers are all there and he has a great IQ for the game as a big which is uncommon. Another key factor. Gasol like in that regard. If we scoop him for $18M/yr, that's a bargain. Starting centre for the next 4 years with those numbers is very good business.

Masai wanted Poeltl last deadline (ask 2 picks) and in off-season (ask still 2 picks) ... had to wait 1 year to get the cost lower. Unfortunately it costed us a terrible first 50 games.

I'm surprised more don't see it this way. It's exactly how I processed the deadline... Sucks that we impacted our first 50 games, but Masai got the guy he wanted. At a price that was tolerable (it's 100% fine to argue that the protection is too low, that's the gamble, we shall see what pick number conveys).

The trade was basically only possible because we have a pre-existing relationship with Yak, and knew he would resign. It's was a great opportunity to grab an average stater in his prime.

[Jtoneller1]

I don't understand how people were upset about acquiring this guy. He is essentially Gasol without the 3 point shooting. Even then, he finishes around the basket at a far better clip than Gasol did (as a Raptor).

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